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RAS61

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I'm having trouble getting a mitsubishi. Everyone is out of them or they have them on order but don't know when they will get them in. Does your brother in law have any we can purchase or does he only see to local people/companies?
Sorry, but he's in the NYC area and pretty much only deals with large contractors and developers. I've noticed on Facebook Marketplace a lot of ads for split systems cheap including Mitsubishi , seem to be open boxes etc, don't know if the warranty applies since I think you have to buy from a certifies dealer, but if the price is right night be worth it - I've been eyeing a local ad for a large Mitsubishi that's super cheap for the garage
 
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justinjoyal

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When running splits for cooling, it is important that they are configured such that they drain completely.

A few of the benefits of ceiling units are that they:
Use a prop-fan rather than a wheel/squirrel-cage fan.
Fan generally does not get wet.
Condensate is pumped out rather than depending on gravity.

If you have a wall unit, it is a good idea to run it in fan mode for a couple hours every now an then to dry them out.

A lot of units have a function you can activate in cooling mode that will keep the fan running for X amount of time when you shut it off. Useful !
 

jjrbus

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The fans in all my Carrier units are galvanized, and all the coils are copper. The wheel-fans in the wall units still get gunked up. The prop-fans in the cassette units stay clean and dry, but for a little dust.

You can get tablets you drop in the pan that are suppose to kill the growth and facilitate better draining.
I always appreciate the input. I have tried every suggestion given to me. Drainage on my 3 units is free flowing, tried the tablets, although have to be chopped up to get in the tray. Tried running the heat occasionally or turn ac off with blower on, not really practicle in FL heat and humidity. Because the mold only grows on the blower wheel, not in the drain pan or on houseing plastic or coil the only culprit left is the blower wheel itself. There is an anti mold spray which does help but only lasts a few months, I think all it does is fill the pours in the plastic.
 

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I always appreciate the input. I have tried every suggestion given to me. Drainage on my 3 units is free flowing, tried the tablets, although have to be chopped up to get in the tray. Tried running the heat occasionally or turn ac off with blower on, not really practicle in FL heat and humidity. Because the mold only grows on the blower wheel, not in the drain pan or on houseing plastic or coil the only culprit left is the blower wheel itself. There is an anti mold spray which does help but only lasts a few months, I think all it does is fill the pours in the plastic.

I live live in Thailand which is pretty hot and humid all year, it's 93 outside right now.

It is interesting that some installations have the mold issue and some do not. I've had probably 15 splits in my homes here, and another twenty at work and never had a problem, for others it is a constant battle. Splits are (apparently) becoming really popular in the US now, but I still think a well designed, correctly installed central system is much better.

In Thailand, most people pay to have their splits serviced once or twice a year. The tech comes out with a helper and they bag/tent the wall unit, take the face off, blow out the drain and then pressure-wash the filter, coil and pan, then dry it all with a leaf-blower. Depending on where you are, this service typically costs $15-$30 per unit, often less if multiple units in the same home. Taking the unit apart is fast and easy if you know how. Google your model number and find a video.

In Thailand, I think the most expensive brands are Daikin followed by Mitsubishi. I just checked and I can buy a new, base-model Daikin 14,400BTU wall unit from an authorized supplier for under $600 including installation. The free installation incudes 13' of everything from the condenser to the evaporator, 13' of drain, a breaker and 26' of everything from the electrical panel to the condenser.

IMHO, cost and small homes is why splits are popular in much of the World, not because they are better. That said, they do have it all over a window-unit...

Incidentally, multi-splits are almost unheard of here.
 
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I live live in Thailand which is pretty hot and humid all year, it's 93 outside right now.

It is interesting that some installations have the mold issue and some do not. I've had probably 15 splits in my homes here, and another twenty at work and never had a problem, for others it is a constant battle. Splits are (apparently) becoming really popular in the US now, but I still think a well designed, correctly installed central system is much better.

In Thailand, most people pay to have their splits serviced once or twice a year. The tech comes out with a helper and they bag/tent the wall unit, take the face off, blow out the drain and then pressure-wash the filter, coil and pan, then dry it all with a leaf-blower. Depending on where you are, this service typically costs $15-$30 per unit, often less if multiple units in the same home. Taking the unit apart is fast and easy if you know how. Google your model number and find a video.

In Thailand, I think the most expensive brands are Daikin followed by Mitsubishi. I just checked and I can buy a new, base-model Daikin 14,400BTU wall unit from an authorized supplier for under $600 including installation. The free installation incudes 13' of everything from the condenser to the evaporator, 13' of drain, a breaker and 26' of everything from the electrical panel to the condenser.

IMHO, cost and small homes is why splits are popular in much of the World, not because they are better. That said, they do have it all over a window-unit...

Incidentally, multi-splits are almost unheard of here.
Like cell service in the USA ... those with the $$ pay. Mini splits in Africa as similarly priced. What's the install like in Thailand. In Africa most don't get installed w/ pump downs outside of major areas
 

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Like cell service in the USA ... those with the $$ pay. Mini splits in Africa as similarly priced. What's the install like in Thailand. In Africa most don't get installed w/ pump downs outside of major areas

A lot of stuff is actually a lot cheaper in the US...

The installations are typically basic and effective. Most of the walls here are brick & mortar, so there is not a lot of hiding pipes inside the wall. Almost all are installed on exterior walls, condenser bolted to the outside wall, or on the balcony, evaporator bolted to the wall inside, pipes directly out the wall behind the evaporator and ducted to the condenser. The breaker is installed inside the wall. Electric is run to the panel, and if another breaker is needed in the panel, that is an up-charge, as is any material exceeding what is included. If your electric has to be run further than 26', there is a charge per-unit distance. the same with piping and ducting.

For the drains, I like a hose from the evaporator through the wall, bent down and stuck into the drain pipe

It is also worth noting these are air conditioners, not heat-pumps. Virtually no has heat here.
 

yeldogt

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A lot of stuff is actually a lot cheaper in the US...

The installations are typically basic and effective. Most of the walls here are brick & mortar, so there is not a lot of hiding pipes inside the wall. Almost all are installed on exterior walls, condenser bolted to the outside wall, or on the balcony, evaporator bolted to the wall inside, pipes directly out the wall behind the evaporator and ducted to the condenser. The breaker is installed inside the wall. Electric is run to the panel, and if another breaker is needed in the panel, that is an up-charge, as is any material exceeding what is included. If your electric has to be run further than 26', there is a charge per-unit distance. the same with piping and ducting.

For the drains, I like a hose from the evaporator through the wall, bent down and stuck into the drain pipe

It is also worth noting these are air conditioners, not heat-pumps. Virtually no has heat here.

Aesthetics is often not high on the list of priorities -- or even noticed in much of the world. Surface is how it is done ... We have so much wood in North America the idea that most of the world builds differently is not on the radar for most in the USA.

Was really talking about the sealed system -- lot of the ones in the third world are not pumped down. In Africa you can get them for around $300 bucks. My house in Cape Town has the lines buried -- the drains typically stick out direct.

Electronics and car parts have so much tariff in most of the world -- we never go back to Africa w/o a few things for people. When I went to Asia a couple times a year -- no one would believe me that you could buy electronics cheaper in NYC vs Japan where made.

At one time I went to Thailand quite often ... about every other year tied w/ Singapore. I used to work in Hong Kong -- so I went a bit more those two years. It, like so many places has changed dramatically. Chiang Mai was still empty of westerners and then a one point in the 90's -- it was discovered. When I fully retire (coming soon) ... we plan on talking extended trips to a few spots. The thought is 6 months every year or so .... have always wanted to spend an extended time in Spain, Ireland and Thailand.
 
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jjrbus

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I live live in Thailand which is pretty hot and humid all year, it's 93 outside right now.

It is interesting that some installations have the mold issue and some do not. I've had probably 15 splits in my homes here, and another twenty at work and never had a problem, for others it is a constant battle. Splits are (apparently) becoming really popular in the US now, but I still think a well designed, correctly installed central system is much better.

In Thailand, most people pay to have their splits serviced once or twice a year. The tech comes out with a helper and they bag/tent the wall unit, take the face off, blow out the drain and then pressure-wash the filter, coil and pan, then dry it all with a leaf-blower. Depending on where you are, this service typically costs $15-$30 per unit, often less if multiple units in the same home. Taking the unit apart is fast and easy if you know how. Google your model number and find a video.

In Thailand, I think the most expensive brands are Daikin followed by Mitsubishi. I just checked and I can buy a new, base-model Daikin 14,400BTU wall unit from an authorized supplier for under $600 including installation. The free installation incudes 13' of everything from the condenser to the evaporator, 13' of drain, a breaker and 26' of everything from the electrical panel to the condenser.

IMHO, cost and small homes is why splits are popular in much of the World, not because they are better. That said, they do have it all over a window-unit...

Incidentally, multi-splits are almost unheard of here.
Part of the reason I went with mini splits is after living in Chaing Mai and Cebu, Philippines I was confident in them. Then the smash and grab contractors with their crappy installs in Florida convinced me I could do better on my own. Except for the disassembly of the units for blower wheel cleaning I am quite happy with the minis. I cannot imagine what it would cost to have someone come in and clean them for me, would guess about $200 per unit or $600 for my 3 heads.

I tried the bag on the wall and found that it does not clean the inside of the wheel and they vibrate after cleaning.
 
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