You should have asked the seller to ship it with the swivel base of the messed up one he/she is still offering for a higher price (the jaw shelves on the silver one are broken, the vise isn't really worth anything). Maybe you can ask if they could sell it to you separately and also tell them their more expensive vise is junk.
The VISES of Garage Journal
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akasrick
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Looks suspiciously like a Prentiss, why its not marked I have no clue.
Anyone recognize this little guy? A jewelers vise? 2” jaws. No markings other than the 2 90 under the support. Spring loaded pin for the swivel. The “anvil” on the back is fixed. Next to a baby bullet for reference. Cool small vise whatever it is. Small chisel marks on the side of the jaws so who ever had it previously was using it.
akasrick
Held by a C2 just for S’s and G’s
That’s what I thought. We have a 6” Prentiss at work. Same styling. I’ve never seen a miniature before though
akasrick
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LolThat’s what I thought. We have a 6” Prentiss at work. Same styling. I’ve never seen a miniature before though
Just type Prentiss 34 in the search boxva.grouseman
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Baby Prentiss. ---There's 1 size smaller than the 2''.
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wrenchguy
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GM Yost woodworking vise done. 16" x 8" jaw plates, 83lbs, 12" opening without wood faces. Stamped serial number 7662 for warranty verification of 1 year I believe. Reed faintly date stamped their vises and guaranteed it for 1 year.
Carving jaw towers up.
Control side.
Video.
Carving jaw towers up.
Control side.
Video.
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Outlawmws
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Wow, that's a big one! Looks to also be pattern makers?
wrenchguy
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Repaired Athol 113X, a $12 CL snag. I believe this is a cast steel item being its "gas welded" repaired. Not brazed as so many are.
3" jaws, opens 3 3/4", weight 14lbs.
Thru the bottom spindle nut held in place by the coped fit and spindle. Never seen this b4.
I'm a sucker for broke vises.
Brochure page courtesy of Dan to me earlier in the week.
3" jaws, opens 3 3/4", weight 14lbs.
Thru the bottom spindle nut held in place by the coped fit and spindle. Never seen this b4.
I'm a sucker for broke vises.
Brochure page courtesy of Dan to me earlier in the week.
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wrenchguy
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Agreed, but seems a generic term for these things.
All old GM Yost advertising i been able to find call it a "Yost Universal Woodworkers Vise".
Ad should enlarge.
That’s definitely a Prentiss, they simply stopped stamping them by the time yours came out. It looks like it has most of its original maroon Japan lacquer intact. It’s always nice to see these in good condition like yours.
akasrick
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Good to see a guy who has seen a lot of these vises share his knowledge. Hopefully the OP is still reading this.
akasrick
Handyandy23
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Any idea what year this brochure might be from?
454ragtop
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Handyandy I'm going to guess from the 20's- 30's. The Parker swivel bases show the wrench, not the earlier cross bar style locking bolt.
Handyandy23
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I picked up this Parker 974 yesterday for $90 (CDN) locally. It moves nice and freely, screw is greased, and has all the parts and pieces, so figured it was hard to go wrong.
I'm going to disassemble it, strip it down, and give it a fresh coat of paint. Plan is to use it, but just give it a nice freshening up.
Does anyone have any insight on the age of this one? I noticed that it doesn't have any patent stampings on the side with the model number like most I've seen in pictures. There's also a dot after the 974, no idea if that means anything. And the screw retainer on the front is pretty plain with no Parker raised lettering or anything.
I'm going to disassemble it, strip it down, and give it a fresh coat of paint. Plan is to use it, but just give it a nice freshening up.
Does anyone have any insight on the age of this one? I noticed that it doesn't have any patent stampings on the side with the model number like most I've seen in pictures. There's also a dot after the 974, no idea if that means anything. And the screw retainer on the front is pretty plain with no Parker raised lettering or anything.
454ragtop
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Looks like a shop made retainer, steel plate to replace OEM cast iron. Looks to be in nice shape other than that.
Handyandy23
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Interesting, that could certainly be the case. If I were to look for an OEM one, are there different types that fit different models? Or any Parker retainer should fit properly?
454ragtop
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Many different sizes unfortunately, best bet is to get one from another 974.
neophyte
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Concerning brazing,
Judging from the typical strength listings for the cast Iron used for vises, and the potential strength of some brazing materials,
Brazing a cast iron vise may produce just as strong a joint as welding, and the joint may be as strong as the original cast iron.
Judging from the typical strength listings for the cast Iron used for vises, and the potential strength of some brazing materials,
Brazing a cast iron vise may produce just as strong a joint as welding, and the joint may be as strong as the original cast iron.
Handyandy23
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OK thanks, I'll try to give my "custom" one a bit more of an appealing shape with the grinder.
If anyone out there has a retainer / keeper that will fit a 974 hit me up, I'll gladly pay a fair price + shipping!
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wrenchguy You **** on the GM Yost woodworking vise!!!! I'm definitely green with envy. 
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I've a few
Outlawmws
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HandyA, I've had a 974 as my primary user for over 30 years now. Good Vise! Mine is marked Pat. 1930 so likely earlier that your. I'm pretty sure they were made from the 30's through the 40's The may have continued the model No series into the Union era, but the molds changed IIR.
Handyandy23
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It seems very stout, definitely beefier than anything else I have. So much so that I think I'm going to have to upgrade my work bench before I mount this!
The main bolt that holds the swivel on the bottom looks to be 1-3/8" when I measure it, which of course I don't have. But I do have a 35mm axle nut socket that fits, so I'm assuming that should work fine? 1-3/8" converts to 34.925mm, but oddly the 35mm socket is almost a little on the sloppy side, and measures closer to 35.5mm. It does have off-corner engagement so I'm thinking it will still work (and I've never had issues taking actual axle nuts off with any of the sockets in this set).
Any GJers in the Washington DC area, check out this Craftsman swivel vise, no bids, 18 hours to go. Not sure of the model. And get a couple of Jorgensen wood clamps and other stuff.
Thank you for the knowledge! Yes still has most of the japaning intact. Picked it up with two other small vices. This was the only one that I noticed that looked like a bigger sibling.
Old Radar
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thanks so much mate
Old Radar
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Check the original link--it was acting wonky so I changed it an earlier catalog (1938): https://archive.org/details/MillersFallsCatalog421938/page/n217/mode/2up?q=vise
Looks like it was made up until at least 1961 when they had red dynamic jaws like yours: https://archive.org/details/millersfallscatalognoh161c/Millers Falls Catalog No H-161C/page/n49/mode/2up?q=vise
Hmmm. Apparently if the catalog has a price list associated with it, we can't link to it directly.
Edit: in the 1961 link above, I deleted everything after millersfallscatalognojh161c and now it gets you to the right catalog.
Just turn to page 49.
Looks like it was made up until at least 1961 when they had red dynamic jaws like yours: https://archive.org/details/millersfallscatalognoh161c/Millers Falls Catalog No H-161C/page/n49/mode/2up?q=vise
Hmmm. Apparently if the catalog has a price list associated with it, we can't link to it directly.
Edit: in the 1961 link above, I deleted everything after millersfallscatalognojh161c and now it gets you to the right catalog.
Just turn to page 49.
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how cool is that you even found the year, thanks a mill
That’s a beautiful little vise that you have there, I mistakenly thought it was Ricks. I always enjoy seeing pics of them, they’re favorites of mine.
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Awesome display, and you don't need a pole barn to house it
SteveH-CO
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va.grouseman
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Need help. ---Does a vintage #6 YOST, (not a Chinese one), have 1 lock-down or 2? ---I can't find pics of one that shows both profiles. ---I bought a used base that has only one lock-down, but looks like there is places for 2. ---Any help appreciated.
drivesitfar
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VA: my guess is 2 holes since they followed REED's look on several of their vises and my 4c's both have 2. that said i'm not positive so wish you the best. the oldest swivel base i've owned was a couple 34c's and they both had 2 if that helps.
ALL: here's to a happy holiday season to all my GJ and vise collecting/using friends. maybe 2022 will be back to a NEW NORMAL and we can all keep LIVING and doing what we like.
ALL: here's to a happy holiday season to all my GJ and vise collecting/using friends. maybe 2022 will be back to a NEW NORMAL and we can all keep LIVING and doing what we like.
RTM
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Asian import. The big #for size is usually the giveaway.