Garage door quotes which do you think is the best value?

[THETANK]

I am looking at the following garage doors. I gave each of the installers a general idea of what I was looking for:

(2) 16x10 Door
Steel Front and back
Preferably Polyurethane Insulation but would consider polystyrene
High Lift Tracks
Electric Openers

(1) 9x10 Door

No Electric Openers all other specs are the same

I was quoted the following installed price:

Clopay 4050 polystyrene insulation w/8500w openers $10, 200

Haas 680 polyurethane insulation w/8500w openers $14,200

Garaga Acadia 138 polyurethane insulation w/8500w openers $ 11,400

What do you think is the best value? It is for a detached garage (pole barn) where the garage doors will probably be raised and lowered less than 10 times per week on average.

 

[jstroede]

Where do you live, what is the use of the pole barn, is it heated/cooled, why only 1 3/8 doors....

Lots of information needed to help make decision....

 

[THETANK]

Where do you live, what is the use of the pole bard, is it heated/cooled, why only 1 3/8 doors....

Lots of information needed to help make decision....

Maryland, Used for workshop garage, it will not be heated full time, light insulation maybe added in the future.

 

[jstroede]

I would see about getting a 2" polystyrene. IMO it is the best value and shouldn't be a ton more than the 1 3/8".

Other than that, I wouldn't spend the money on the polyurethane. If you lived in MN and were going to actively heat it all winter it might be a different story.

John

 

[sweetk30]

Look at CHI brand of doors . Lots of them here in my area shop or home garage . https://www.chiohd.com/ openers = BIG MONEY these days . So if my pic 1 door and the rest manual open/close . I would do a chain lift/lower like shops do .

 

[PoorUB]

What the hell!
I had a 8x16 replaced three years ago. 2" thick, Midland door with raised panels on the outside. They removed the old door and track and disposed it and installed the new door for $1,100.
I realize prices have gone up, but $14k?! Must be one hell of a door!

 

[THETANK]

What the hell!
I had a 8x16 replaced three years ago. 2" thick, Midland door with raised panels on the outside. They removed the old door and track and disposed it and installed the new door for $1,100.
I realize prices have gone up, but $14k?! Must be one hell of a door!

The above were the 3 lowest quotes two other companies quoted over $15K. I had looked at CHI doors and Horman both came it at over $15K for the polyurethane doors. Lead times for the doors are 16+ weeks.

 

[Mikeske]

Those prices are crazy but it is what it is and it all depends on what you are comfortable with. As I am older I really do not want a manually opening door and would prefer a electric door opener. It is all what you want but I recommend the electric opener with any of the doors

 

[Shovelhead]

Overhead Door house brand.
18x10 with opener
12x10 no opener
both high lift track in shop with 14’ walls
both doors insulated ,,,, they are very nice, no rattles and the opener very smooth and quiet

Way, way more than I wanted to spend, or even thought they’d cost, but so is every single F’n thing I’ve bought for this new shop.
It will more than likely be my last and where I’ll see my last sunset, so , what the heck.


Overhead Door 05/12/2021

OHD-198-18x10- Installed-Model:
BLK 198 Ranch Panel Thermacore Door

Size:
Actual: 18' 0" X 10' 0" Opening: 18' 0" X 10' 0" Headroom: 0"
Door Description:
Section Color: Black, Section Stacking: Standard

Track:
Mount Location and Size: Commercial Track Options: # 1 Standard Lift, Track Modifications: Lift Clearance Track 24"-48" Headroom Counterbalance:
Springs: Standard
Hardware:
Rollers: Roller Upgrade - 2" TR-# 13 Ball Roller, Lift Handle: Standard, Struts: Standard
1 $3,382.13
$3,043.92
Discount $338.21


OHD-198-12x10- Model:
BLK 198 Ranch Panel Thermacore Door
Size:
Actual: 12' 2" X 10' 1" Opening: 12' 0" X 10' 1" Headroom: 0"
Door Description:
Section Color: Black, Section Stacking: Standard
Track:
Mount Location and Size: Commercial Track Options: # 1 Standard Lift, Track Modifications: Lift Clearance Track 24"-48" Headroom Counterbalance:
Springs: Standard
Hardware:
Rollers: Roller Upgrade - 2" TR-# 13 Ball Roller, Lift Handle: Standard, Struts: Standard
1 $2,329.38
8.25%
$2,096.44
Discount $232.94

LM-8500W
Installed--DC Battery Backup Wall Mount Wi-Fi® Garage Door Opener
Lifetime Motor Warranty
5-year parts and 1-year battery
and accessories warranties.
$780.00

Travel Travel Expense for the listed location 1 $71.00 8.25% $71.00

Subtotal TAX 8.25% ($5,991.36) Shipping Total
Total
$6,485.65

 

[PoorUB]

I can not help but think there is a ton of COVID tax on these doors.

 

[Poolshark314]

Yeah I am also in MD and already had doors quoted on my building, but I inquired about adding windows to the doors and they wanted an extra $500 per door

 

[Shovelhead]

I can not help but think there is a ton of COVID tax on these doors.

there's Covid tax on everything I buy related to construction.
except my whiskey

 

[jstroede]

I can not help but think there is a ton of COVID tax on these doors.

Do you have any idea what steel and labor prices are doing these days?

 

[Samh]

What the hell!
I had a 8x16 replaced three years ago. 2" thick, Midland door with raised panels on the outside. They removed the old door and track and disposed it and installed the new door for $1,100.
I realize prices have gone up, but $14k?! Must be one hell of a door!

My bet is because they might be considered custom sizes while yours wasn't really. I was in a similar boat 2 years ago getting quotes on doors. I framed as 10x10 thinking that should be pretty easy to get. Each door came in at $3500ish, and I needed for of them. Decided to just build doors instead.

 

[PoorUB]

Do you have any idea what steel and labor prices are doing these days?

Sure I do, I realize this is for openers too, but seems crazy to me. Are you trying to tell me the door I had installed three years ago is over $5,000 today? Prices have not gone up 5 times in two years. I could understand going up 2x from three years ago.

Like I said before, they must be really nice doors!

 

[jstroede]

Sure I do, I realize this is for openers too, but seems crazy to me. Are you trying to tell me the door I had installed three years ago is over $5,000 today? Prices have not gone up 5 times in two years. I could understand going up 2x from three years ago.

Like I said before, they must be really nice doors!

What door exactly did you have installed? You said a 2" midland 16x8. That is in no way relatable to what the OP is having installed no matter what the model. OP is having 10' high doors installed, which are considered commercial doors by most manufacturers. That means heavier components all around. Those prices he quoted are with openers and high lift.

John

 

[jstroede]

My bet is because they might be considered custom sizes while yours wasn't really. I was in a similar boat 2 years ago getting quotes on doors. I framed as 10x10 thinking that should be pretty easy to get. Each door came in at $3500ish, and I needed for of them. Decided to just build doors instead.

10x10 is a common door size, but it is a commercial door size. Most dock doors are 10x10. In residential doors, that makes it 6 sections high instead of 4, and bumps up all of the track and hardware to heavier components, even if you order a residential model.

Again without knowing all the details, $3500 for a 10x10 is a little high for most doors.

 

[Samh]

10x10 is a common door size, but it is a commercial door size. Most dock doors are 10x10. In residential doors, that makes it 6 sections high instead of 4, and bumps up all of the track and hardware to heavier components, even if you order a residential model.

Again without knowing all the details, $3500 for a 10x10 is a little high for most doors.

These were doors that were semi-decorative, and not just the stamped panels. I should've clarified that they were the standard size you see for residential, so the price jump was significantly more than I was expecting.

 

[rburke65]

I am very happy with my two 2” insulated Clopay doors

 

[infinkc]

Might as well go with the Garaga Acadia 138, you said you prefer polyurethane.

 

[THETANK]

Might as well go with the Garaga Acadia 138, you said you prefer polyurethane.

I was leaning towards the Garaga it seems to me the best value based off of the specs and price. The only negative I have read was in reference to wooden ends but it does not seem like there is much solid evidence that there are problems only speculations. The installers for the Haas and Garaga doors seem to have the best reputations.

 

[thammel]

I was leaning towards the Garaga it seems to me the best value based off of the specs and price. The only negative I have read was in reference to wooden ends but it does not seem like there is much solid evidence that there are problems only speculations. The installers for the Haas and Garaga doors seem to have the best reputations.

I'm in MD and went with two 10x8 garaga doors about 13 years ago. I installed the liftmaster openers myself. That was pretty easy. I went with garaga then because it seemed to be the best value. They are 1 3/4" thick, steel both sides, fully insulated, no windows. I have had no problems with the wood edges. Very happy with them!

 

[walta]

Tell us what gage steel the door is made from.

If you wrap insulation in a steel blanket is it still insulation or just a decoration?

Walta

 

[THETANK]

Tell us what gage steel the door is made from.

If you wrap insulation in a steel blanket is it still insulation or just a decoration?

Walta

The door is 26 gauge steel front and back. I think the addition of the wood blocks acts as a thermal break making the insulation not just a decoration but preventing/reducing the flow of thermal energy between the two pieces of steel.

 

[jstroede]

I am looking at the following garage doors. I gave each of the installers a general idea of what I was looking for:

(2) 16x10 Door
Steel Front and back
Preferably Polyurethane Insulation but would consider polystyrene
High Lift Tracks
Electric Openers

(1) 9x10 Door

No Electric Openers all other specs are the same

I was quoted the following installed price:

Clopay 4050 polystyrene insulation w/8500w openers $10, 200

Haas 680 polyurethane insulation w/8500w openers $14,200

Garaga Acadia 138 polyurethane insulation w/8500w openers $ 11,400

What do you think is the best value? It is for a detached garage (pole barn) where the garage doors will probably be raised and lowered less than 10 times per week on average.

With all installation factors and such being the same, the best value of the three listed is the Garaga door.

John

 

[berub9a2]

In MD as well with a similar pole barn situation. Builder used the 2” clopay doors. No issues at all so far will being lift,aster 8500 installs myself once it gets warmer out.

 

[Cairo94507]

Regardless of what door(s) you choose, consider the jackshaft wall mounted openers. I had 2 Chamberlain openers on my high-lift doors and they are very quiet and take the motor off the ceiling for a very clean look.

 

[walta]

The door is 26 gauge steel front and back. I think the addition of the wood blocks acts as a thermal break making the insulation not just a decoration but preventing/reducing the flow of thermal energy between the two pieces of steel.

Did you mean to say all 3 door you are considering are made from 26 gage steel?

The doors I have seen on the market have no wooden parts except for trim with the weather stripping.

Please post a link of photo of this wood.

When I look at most door the exterior steel panel you see as the front of the door wraps around and is exposed on the interior of the door. Steel conducts hear very well and it all wants to be the same temp.

Walta

 

[THETANK]

arket have no wooden parts except for trim with the weather stripping.

Did you mean to say all 3 door you are considering are made from 26 gage steel?

The doors I have seen on the market have no wooden parts except for trim with the weather stripping.

Please post a link of photo of this wood.

When I look at most door the exterior steel panel you see as the front of the door wraps around and is exposed on the interior of the door. Steel conducts hear very well and it all wants to be the same temp.

Walta

Garaga Acadia 138

Above you will find the link scroll down toward the bottom where there is a picture of the garage door that is an exploded view , look at #2.

All three doors are 26 gauge steel with wooden end blocks

 

[THETANK]

Regardless of what door(s) you choose, consider the jackshaft wall mounted openers. I had 2 Chamberlain openers on my high-lift doors and they are very quiet and take the motor off the ceiling for a very clean look.

They quoted me for (2) Liftmaster 8500w electric openers in all the above quotes.

 

[BiaoBamosux]

I think a lot of additional information is still needed. I think you could find someone who has already done it nearby. When I had the same situation, I ordered my new garage doors at https://doorsdirect2u.co.uk/product-category/garage-doors/. I've got a friend working here, so he's actually helped me a lot. It's very important to have someone who knows more than you. Especially when it all comes to building or repairing. Btw, we also ordered a kit by Versatube to build a garage for my dad. It was really easy to install, actually.