I have a pair of those, got them someplace I think on Black Friday a couple years ago. they're ok but really only good for gripping larger things with flat sides. the jaws open/shut parallel to each other, not pivoting like other pliers, so only good for being the stationary grip, not the moving twisting grip. I wouldn't count it as a personal loss if they disappeared. as doctordirt said, ideal use is for plumbing but not much else