2022 Garage Sale Thread

[bbbarracuda]

The model of the gun is 8200. The 8200 PK is the kit #
The seal appears to be Award Winning Hardware-Housewares Packaging Institute
I'm not finding anything about that outfit.
The box doesn't list a zip code, so maybe before 1963?

The earliest trade mag the Weller 8200PK was advertised in appears to be this 1962 Pop Sci, 'Cuda, linked here. Sure looks like a spittin' image of your kit to me.

The packaging looks the exact same, just the label in the lid is different.
Pretty sure we're in the right ballpark for age now.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The box doesn't list a zip code, so maybe before 1963?

I would say almost certainly.

just the label in the lid is different.

That could easily be the artist simplifying that for better visual effect - it's very busy.

Pretty sure we're in the right ballpark for age now.

Agreed.

 

[bbbarracuda]

The gun has a patent # on it but it is really small and difficult to read. I think it's #2699195 which is the right company and right age group but not for a soldering gun.
Is it normal for tools to have bad patent #'s on them?

Patent Public Search | USPTO

pdfpiw.uspto.gov

 

[RTM]

Probably not a bad number. There is a transformer inside the gun I think, so winding a transformer might fit.

But yeah, there are lots of bad numbers on tools, wrong dates, wrong patent #, imaginary numbers (geek joke)/

 

[bbbarracuda]

The patent # is for a machine to wind transformers. But it is the right company and inventor, so??

 

[mikeinri]

Those graphics scream 50s to early 60s to me...

Mike

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Here is your label in a little later (1967) Pop Sci magazine, 'Cuda.

 

[Outlawmws]

I bought that same 8200 Weller new (more accurately my older cousin bought it for me for washing his car...) "Back in the day" maybe 64 or 65. it was in a cardboard box. (long gone, although I did keep in it if for a few years, before it wore out...)

I still have the gun it still works.

 

[Outlawmws]

Outlaw Thanks for posting pics of your camp setup! I did not see the jacuzzi though. But seriously that looks like some comfortable camping. The older I get the more and more I like it as comfortable as possible.

Haha!, I actually worked out how to make a portable "Hillbilly Hot tub" camping! I haven't done it yet but...

Prerequisite: Water and firewood source needed
1. Old waterbed outside frame X2 Cut to the size you want. Loose dowels to keep the stacked frames together.
2. Old moving pads, one on each side, mostly on the inside - one more in the middle as needed (to prevent puncturing the visqueen)
3. Heavy Visqueen, liner (fold in the comers )
4. Water pump driven by a small B&S horizontal shaft gas motor Garden hose fittings...
5. At least 2 garden hoses long enough to reach the water source, and tub
6. Coil of copper tubing at lest as big as the hose with garden hose fittings
7. Fire pit and fire wood handy.

While filing (use the pump..) run the water through the copper tubing and have that in the fire.
Once full enough, reroute the hose so the water in the tub is recirculating.
Once hot enough get in an enjoy!
Suits optional!

I know it will work I saw an even cruder one.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I don't doubt you'll get it done!!!

 

[mikeinri]

Here is your label in a little later (1967) Pop Sci magazine, 'Cuda.

Nice find! I've seen two versions of those labels, a yellow theme, and the red. I doubt they'd be separated by more than a year or two (at least by today's standard).

Mike

 

[mikeinri]

@Outlawmws That hot tub sounds like just the sort of project that happens just because someone is determined enough to make it work!

Mike

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Nice find!

Google Books does all the work.

 

[Jim_No_Garage]

Yup the kids/hipsters love the carhartt right now . A bit ironic given that it is workwear and most of those kids are not using it for work. Around here they love the beanies and the pants rolled up so they look like loggers . I get weird looks from them when I wear my carhartt with ripped knees or paint or grease stains on my clothes. It’s like they have never seen what real work clothes look like in their natural environment

I worked in an office building in NYC with a guy that wore a PRISTINE Carhart brown duck jacket and PERFECT Timberland boots.

Jim

 

[bbbarracuda]

Thanks to everyone that chimed in on the weller soldering gun. Especially Private Lugnutz for all the research.
I actually bought it to be a user, but now I'm gonna have to be extra careful to not screw it up. It's in such good condition, I don't want to be the one who wrecked it.

 

[Rickster]

Here are a couple of pics of tools I picked up from the Estate sale I got the bike tools at. That Work Force ratchet looks like a Williams and their screwdrivers look like old Snap-on hard handles.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Especially Private Lugnutz for all the research.

No prob.

Again, though, and just to re-emphasize, and perhaps to use this as a PSA opp, 'Google Books' is your friend!

I am not more skilled or adept or smarter about researching this hobby than anyone else. I went to 'Google Books' (NOT the same search engine as Google, eliminates eBay, etsy, tons of extraneous websites that mention Weller 8200PK but are no help in dating, every undated image of every Weller 8200PK kit that anyone has ever posted to the Internet, etc), typed in "Weller 8200PK" and, voila, every trade mag (e.g., Pop Mech, Pop Sci, etc) it was ever advertised in popped up. I scrolled until I found the earliest. Quite literally less than 15 seconds.

If you want to research what you've found, use Google Books, not Google.

I have included this same recommendation - along with others about patents and TM's. etc, in the Hints and Tips section of the Sticky down on the VB.

Not to be misread as impatience or aimed at you or anyone else, 'Cuda. It would be a lie to say I don't have any selfish motivations or that I have not been on a mission to get others to read the Sticky and do their own research (so I don't have to! ), but mainly just to help.

 

[RTM]

I am not more skilled or adept or smarter about researching this hobby than anyone else.

I think a few of us here would disagree with that very humble statement. I am frequently in awe if all the places you find stuff, the methods you use, but most importantly, your willingness to share all that, to bring the rest of us up in our abilities to research tools. I’ve learned a lot from you and others in the few years I’ve been here.

 

[bbbarracuda]

I need to read the stickies.
Somehow, I had missed the previous recommendations for Google Books. OOPS
That is an amazing resource.
Once again, thanks.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, RTM. No worries, 'Cuda.

 

[mikeinri]

I've come across Google Books results while searching for some REALLY old stuff (such as the really old sensitive drill press that I inherited when my grandfather passed away). I'll certainly agree that it's an amazing resource for dating things. I really wish it was as good for finding original owners, parts and service manuals.

Mike

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I really wish it was as good for finding original owners, parts and service manuals.

It's only as "good" as what has been digitized. I have dozens of manuals on my laptop pulled out of Google Books. Dozens more that were Snippet-Only views, for which you need to request a review for it to be unlocked (based on copyrights) by the Google Books team. Of course I have also come up empty, too, plenty of times. But even in those cases there is often a reference to where the manual may reside in physical form at an actual library. Or not. I have certainly been disappointed on occasion. But in general, when you've spent years using it to search hundreds of different tool mfgr or model names, I think you'd see that it has a very high success rate overall. I'm no fan of Google, to be honest. As an entity. As a cultural agent. And I'll leave it at that so as not to break GJ political taboo. But the Google Books open library venture has been a godsend in this hobby.

 

[mikeinri]

Good points. As I was typing that, I was wondering if my problem was lack of (my) experience, or lack of documents scanned. Sounds like a combination of both.

On a broader topic, I despise when companies treat their documents as gold. I bought your product, it shouldn't be an additional income stream to acquire documents so I can service it myself should I choose to do so. Especially when your competitors don't do this...

Mike

 

[Old Man Roger]

Whats a sticky?

I kid I kid..lol

 

[Smokeshow69]

I worked in an office building in NYC with a guy that wore a PRISTINE Carhart brown duck jacket and PERFECT Timberland boots.

Jim

Yup gotta love it. That is very common to see out here. There usually is the obligatory mustache with up turned ends and usually some plaid flannel in there somewhere. These folks are really driving up the market on used industrial pieces and other pieces of Americana especially in large cities. I go to antique stores with my wife and get irritated when I see tool boxes being turned into planters and good wrenches being welded into decorations.

 

[RTM]

. I really wish it was as good for finding original owners, parts and service manuals.

Actually, the Internet Archive ITCL is great for that, as well as the accompanying Manuals Library. Mark Stansbury has loaded 5k catalogs, and some manuals in the ITCL, and the Manuals has 200k, but everything from software to kitchen mixers, so it takes a bit more work.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Yup gotta love it. That is very common to see out here. There usually is the obligatory mustache with up turned ends and usually some plaid flannel in there somewhere. These folks are really driving up the market on used industrial pieces and other pieces of Americana especially in large cities. I go to antique stores with my wife and get irritated when I see tool boxes being turned into planters and good wrenches being welded into decorations.

I'm there with you Smoke on getting irritated seeing good old American made machine bases and tools repurposed into decorations. Grrr!

 

[gearhead1960]

I'm there with you Smoke on getting irritated seeing good old American made machine bases and tools repurposed into decorations. Grrr!

It is annoying, but the sad reality is....not enough collectors out there to save or recognize the collectible value resulting in people repurposing these bases and tools. The alternative is that they get tossed in a dump or recycled, never to be seen again.....

 

[Old Radar]

I know it's been slow, so I hope no one minds me interrupting this pedagogical conversation by actually posting a couple of tools.

Blue-Point CD410CP 10" Pliers
Snap-on FX24A 24" 3/8d Extension
$5 each.

 

[RTM]

That is very common to see out here. There usually is the obligatory mustache with up turned ends and usually some plaid flannel in there somewhere. .

You missed the requisite glasses and newish Levi’s.
Bunch of us were at the flea a few years back, and saw three or four groups of them. We had commented on them during our breaks. As we past another group of 5, one of the less comedic members of the party said “Die Cut”. The rest of us busted up, and the lumberjacks are all looking at us like Whhhhaaatttt?

 

[Smokeshow69]

You missed the requisite glasses and newish Levi’s.
Bunch of us were at the flea a few years back, and saw three or four groups of them. We had commented on them during our breaks. As we past another group of 5, one of the less comedic members of the party said “Die Cut”. The rest of us busted up, and the lumberjacks are all looking at us like Whhhhaaatttt?

Hilarious! I remember the “non conformist” group that didn’t want to be like everyone else but yet they all dressed the same .

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I hope no one minds me interrupting this pedagogical conversation

(Psst! Hey, OR. Your understated sarcasm seems to have ended the advanced googling discussion, but you might need a good sized hammer for the guys in the industrial couterie/decorating discussion. They are really worked up by the faux blue collar hipsters! )

 

[Old Radar]

Yep. Some folks just can't take a hint!

 

[mikeinri]

How, exactly, was that understated? Definitely effective, that's for sure!

Mike

 

[6 & 7/8]

I was opening a box of my junk and oh there they are!
I actually picked these up a few years age at a man’s sale.

 

[firstyearchevelle]

Found this on 1929 Snap on no. 7 ratchet and this milk crate full of wrenches on FB marketplace.
Paid $50 for the ratchet, I don’t know if it was worth that but I wanted it. Works nice and smooth, I haven’t cleaned it yet.
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Also for $20 this crate full of wrenches, half of which are already in the scrap bin.


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There was however a few gems in there.
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Metric Hazet wrenches, I really like these, too bad it’s not a complete set.
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A nearly complete set of Craftsman -vv- metric wrenches. I probably have the missing ones I need to take a look.

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1966 Snap on 3/4 wrench with a hex box end, 1955 Snappy line wrench and a couple par-x.

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Williams.

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SK.

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There‘s more Plomb, Proto, Bonney, Barcalo, Wright plus the stuff I have to figure out what it is.

 

[Shelbylex]

Nice pick, Firstyearchevelle. I really like Hazet ones - do not see them that often!

 

[alinc100]

Sneak peek at an on the way home purchase I am hoping to be successful. I've made arrangements to be there at 3pm.

 

[saukit]

Sneak peek at an on the way home purchase I am hoping to be successful. I've made arrangements to be there at 3pm.

Very nice, hopefully the owner doesn't look up those amber handle Craftsman pieces on eBay!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Youse guys didn't think I got skunked 3 trips in a row, didja?!



Lugz 2022_12 includes an ESSO Tony the Tiger Club keychain fob, some kit wrenches that may not all belong together, Bonney mechanical fingers, Winchester 6" slip joints, Pre-Stanley North Bros #1 Phillips, [PLUMB] B.S.A. hatchet in need of a vintage re-handling, and some B.S.A. patches (guessing 60's, maybe 70's).

I was curious enough about the cards that I looked and instantly decided that the ancient Sanskrit symbol for auspiciousness was just too cool to leave behind. Before anyone asks, the cards are dated 1931.