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How Many Battery Platforms Are Too Many?

ybnormal

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I think what Mike is saying by "people making them" is companies, not Joe Bob with his 3D printer. You would also need to supply a little info like what tool to what battery if you want someone to find it for you.

I suggest using keywords for what you want, like " Dewalt 20v to Ryobi 18v adapter". I have bought about 8 different ones from various sellers on eBay and Amazon and haven't had a single issue with them.

searched for this "porter cable 18v battery adapter" and got this

I've been happy with the PorterCable set I got on BF about 10 yrs ago, no complaints. just don't want to get myself into another non-compatible deadend with the batteries. and these battery adapters look like a quality solution to that issue. at some point I may upgrade to brushless etc but until then I'm just trying to avoid non-compatibility hell
 
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I got rid of all my m18 stuff a few years ago.
All of my cordless stuff is dewalt 20v,much easier to keep 1/2 dozen of the same batteries charged to cover all of my stuff.
And if I get in a bind I can always grab a battery out of another tool if need be.
 

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searched for this "porter cable 18v battery adapter" and got this

I've been happy with the PorterCable set I got on BF about 10 yrs ago, no complaints. just don't want to get myself into another non-compatible deadend with the batteries. and these battery adapters look like a quality solution to that issue. at some point I may upgrade to brushless etc but until then I'm just trying to avoid non-compatibility hell
So do you already have some 20v porter-cable tools, batteries, and charger. Usually they will tell you not to use the adapter with the charger. Most of my cordless tools are porter-cable or Dewalt and I actually find myself reaching for the PC over the Dewalt on the drills. The hammer drill especially is about twice as fast at drilling holes in concrete and both are the 20v line and the ergonomics are just plain better for me.
If you have the 20v PC line there is a easy way to modify the Black and Decker batteries to work on 20v PC. Its useful if you stumble on a good deal of the BD.
 

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So do you already have some 20v porter-cable tools, batteries, and charger. Usually they will tell you not to use the adapter with the charger. Most of my cordless tools are porter-cable or Dewalt and I actually find myself reaching for the PC over the Dewalt on the drills. The hammer drill especially is about twice as fast at drilling holes in concrete and both are the 20v line and the ergonomics are just plain better for me.
If you have the 20v PC line there is a easy way to modify the Black and Decker batteries to work on 20v PC. Its useful if you stumble on a good deal of the BD.
Oddly I found my PC batteries slap right into my Black & Decker tools. The internet says you gotta trim a tab or two first, but I didn't. I don't know about going the other direction though.
 

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So do you already have some 20v porter-cable tools, batteries, and charger. Usually they will tell you not to use the adapter with the charger. Most of my cordless tools are porter-cable or Dewalt and I actually find myself reaching for the PC over the Dewalt on the drills. The hammer drill especially is about twice as fast at drilling holes in concrete and both are the 20v line and the ergonomics are just plain better for me.
If you have the 20v PC line there is a easy way to modify the Black and Decker batteries to work on 20v PC. Its useful if you stumble on a good deal of the BD.
all I have is the PorterC 18v NiCad stuff, some batts have died so I got some Biswaye off Amzn and they're fine. have a couple of Ryobi tools and batts my buddy gave me, and a Craftsman impact 20v LiIon., both of which he found at a pawn shop in decent shape for cheap.

I like the multiple tools of Ryobi, but what I really like is that they have stayed on the same battery platform since day 1. really psses me off when a manufacturer brings out new tools and then changes the way the battery plugs in so you have to upgrade everything.
 

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all I have is the PorterC 18v NiCad stuff, some batts have died so I got some Biswaye off Amzn and they're fine. have a couple of Ryobi tools and batts my buddy gave me, and a Craftsman impact 20v LiIon., both of which he found at a pawn shop in decent shape for cheap.

I like the multiple tools of Ryobi, but what I really like is that they have stayed on the same battery platform since day 1. really psses me off when a manufacturer brings out new tools and then changes the way the battery plugs in so you have to upgrade everything.
So with the adapter you have listed you would need 20v PC batteries and a 20v PC charger. You might find a deal during the holidays for a 20v 1/4 impact in PC that you could add to your tools if it came with the charger and a few batteries for a reasonable price or a combo kit. I only have a few 18v ryobi things left and they have become more or less yard tools (reciprocating saw, trim saw), so I got the adapter to use 20v Dewalt on those. You could do something similar with a 20v PC kit and use the 18v for the dirty work.

ETA: in reading your post I see you also have some 18v Ryobi, the adapter attached should let you use the old ryobi tools on a 20v PC battery if you go that route.

 
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I have all Ryobi 18V

2 drills
1 Right angle drill
1 Palm router (love the **** out of that thing)
1 Dremel type
1 5" Circular saw
1 Sawsall
1 String trimmer
1 Lawn mower (uses 2 4ah batteries....I can typically get 2 weekends out of it before re-charging)
4 Lights...
1 Tire inflator
1 Leaf blower
1 Fan with mister....my son got it for me...it's more useful than I expected

And about 8-10 corded Ryobi tools.

Need to get an impact driver and maybe cordless jig saw
 

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The adaptors work, but I think there's a reason there's no brand-name production.

For the most part, supplying 18 volts to a power tool will make it work no matter what color it is. However, some brands have overload or overdrain protection built into the batteries, other brands put it in the tools. Sometimes batteries provide tools other information too like temperature sensing - or there's examples like Ridged Octane where you can supply 18 volts, but not unlock the "Octane" power boost from using the special batteries capable of higher power draw (similarly, Milwaukee HO).

That's not to say you shouldn't do it. You just might need to be more careful that you need to be with batteries and tools designed to work with one another. E.g. try not to drain batteries all the way flat, don't use adapters in really high-draw tools, stop if the pack gets hot.

Manufacturers don't want to create liability for themselves, nor do they have a desire to get sued for appropriating someone else's technology to make it work properly.

I have a few myself (Dewalt to Ryobi, Dewalt to Bosch, Dewalt to Ridgid). I would like to have other options than always using my Dewalt packs - I have a lot of Bosch batteries for example - the Dewalt adapters are by far the easiest to find.

In my ideal world, the battery and tool connections would be separate pieces and you could just connect them in whatever combination you needed.
 

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I have all Ryobi 18V

2 drills
1 Right angle drill
1 Palm router (love the **** out of that thing)
1 Dremel type
1 5" Circular saw
1 Sawsall
1 String trimmer
1 Lawn mower (uses 2 4ah batteries....I can typically get 2 weekends out of it before re-charging)
4 Lights...
1 Tire inflator
1 Leaf blower
1 Fan with mister....my son got it for me...it's more useful than I expected

And about 8-10 corded Ryobi tools.

Need to get an impact driver and maybe cordless jig saw
It blows my mind that there are people with cordless tools that don't own impact drivers.

They are amazing and you will wonder why you didn't get one 10 years ago
 
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I have all Ryobi 18V

2 drills
1 Right angle drill
1 Palm router (love the **** out of that thing)
1 Dremel type
1 5" Circular saw
1 Sawsall
1 String trimmer
1 Lawn mower (uses 2 4ah batteries....I can typically get 2 weekends out of it before re-charging)
4 Lights...
1 Tire inflator
1 Leaf blower
1 Fan with mister....my son got it for me...it's more useful than I expected

And about 8-10 corded Ryobi tools.

Need to get an impact driver and maybe cordless jig saw
It’s funny, ryobi was first out with a cordless router, i just sold my original blue one and bought a dewalt. I missed the ryobi so much i bought another one, sometimes simple is better, plus it’s very comfortable to use.
 

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I had just Ridgid for years. I have bought into the Milwaukee cult and I'm addicted. I'm gradually adding both M12 and M18 tools to the shop. I have had good luck overall with Ridgid but am replacing with Milwaukee.
 

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I will say the dewalt cordless router is way better looking, but i always seem to pick up the ryobi, and it’s a little lighter.
I have the one on the left.....you're right....it's lighter....easy to handle.
Works great for things like putting a small bull nose on stuff. Making recessed pockets for hinges.....etc
 
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I can't believe I just bought into another battery platform, Hilti Nuron, needed a cordless epoxy dispenser & we use a lot of hilti 200 & 500. At least hilti made their dispenser compatible with all their epoxys, but while at hilti I got to demo their TE 60 22 hammer drill, all I can say is it blows away dewalt & milwaukee.
 

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As a general matter, I tend to think that since I have a chosen platform, if I need something I will just go with that then I realized that I already had 3 platforms right there with my Dewalt stuff between 18v brushed, 20v brushed and brushless as well as a 60v saw. I added some Milwaukee 12v for the ratchet, lights, drill/impact kit and a couple other pieces.

If you are willing to deal with whatever pain and aggravation having multiple platforms brings who can argue with that.

If I was a young guy starting out I would still pick a platform and build it up. But, seeing some tool deals from another platform or a best in class tool offered by another platform are sometimes difficult to pass up.
 
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Some of the adapters are good, but it is a bit frustrating when there's not an on-brand equivalent. I have a couple Ryobi tools -- finger sander and bucket fan (which I often use with an adapter) that don't have partners elsewhere, so that's the Ryobi ecosystem.

Most of my tools are DeWalt. I have. . . a lot. So there's effectively two (or one and a half) ecosystems: 20V and 60V. Well, plus the one Mac 1/4" power ratchet, which takes a DeWalt 12V battery so that's another.

Now, Milwaukee makes some great subcompact tools. There's no equivalent of their installation driver, hydraulic impact driver, etc. in DeWalt so now I have M12 tools and batteries as well.

It's kind of annoying.
 

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Two. Two platforms is too many. Drove me nuts.

I finally dumped the other stuff and standardized on Ryobi last year once their newer brushless stuff started to hit the market. Some of the brushed stuff is very useful and low-cost, but the brushless tools are a huge step up and on par with the other brands.

Huge array of tools on the shelf at any Homeless Despot, decent prices, and regular sales.

If I did a lot of repetitive mechanical work for pay, I would very likely jump into Milwaukee's M12 line in addition to the Ryobi stuff. Also on the shelf at HD and Northern Tool, and the smaller, lighter tools make a lot of sense if you're using them a lot.
 
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I've got a lot: Milwaukee (M12 and M18) and Makita (18V) primarily. Metabo (12V), DeWalt (18V), I-R (12V) and Bosch (18V) secondarily and Ryobi (18V) for the weird **** they make like soldering stations, glue guns and band files that the others don't.
 

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In my work van the main tools are all Makita. I had Bosch/Makita for a bit. But the Bosch tool was so low use the battery has to be charged before I would use it.

I still have a Bosch radio in the van. If the batteries are dead it doesn't stop me from being productive.

I think as long as you can keep things organized it won't matter how many platforms you have

It blows my mind that there are people with cordless tools that don't own impact drivers.

They are amazing and you will wonder why you didn't get one 10 years ago

. The first impact I owned was one gifted to me when one of my coworkers switched away from Makita. If I didn't have it I would be just fine.
 

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When I was working (recently retired) we did $100MM/yr in work with only one platform, Milwaukee 18V, but we only did plumbing & mechanical. I have the same platform tools for my own use. I could maybe see the need to branch out if you’re doing tasks in multiple disciplines. I’m really considering jumping on board with some 12V automotive tools.
 

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I'm on Makita 18V for everything:

3 drills
Impact driver
2 Impact wrenches
Jigsaw
Oscillating saw
Orbital sander
2 circular saws
Recip saw
Angle grinder
Mini vacuum
String trimmer
Leaf blower
Lawn mower

I've never regretted buying a Makita tool.
 

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I can't believe I just bought into another battery platform, Hilti Nuron, needed a cordless epoxy dispenser & we use a lot of hilti 200 & 500. At least hilti made their dispenser compatible with all their epoxys, but while at hilti I got to demo their TE 60 22 hammer drill, all I can say is it blows away dewalt & milwaukee.
Thank you for the review of Hilti.
 

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I have four platforms. A whole bunch of M12 and M18 as well as a Makita 7.2 volt impacting stick driver and a 12 volt Bosch driver that I never use. The Makita gets used more than everything else put together with the exception of the M12 impact driver and bandsaw.
 

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The answer to the OP's question is 2.

3 Platforms are too many.

Only need a compact 12V and an 18V. Done.
 
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My home tools are all Makita but I bought a couple Dewalt 6" grinders with 9ah batteries for my work. Now that I am retired I have the grinders at home. I don't mind having both platforms.
 

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I have 3. DeWalt 20V, Bauer 20V, and Bosch 12V but I could get rid of all but the DeWalt stuff and be quite happy. Ended up with the Bauer and the Bosch through odd circumstances, didn't actually buy them. The Bosch is a drill and impact driver set that are actually quality tools but when I got them I already had the DeWalt which suits my needs better. The Bauer is an angle grinder which to be honest is just weak. It is the only cordless angle grinder I have and is just barely useful enough to keep me from throwing it away. Although one of these days I suspect it is going to stall out one time too many and get launched into something hard.
 

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It's tough to standardize without making compromises. Milwaukie 12, Festool 12, Makita dual 18's (chainsaw), Kobalt 40 (misc. OPE)
 

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I technically have three. My standard cordless tools are M12 and M18 Milwaukee. I also have an Alemite 18V lithium grease gun that I either need a new battery for or need to work out someone to make an adapter. Cordless and pneumatic grease guns at work have spoiled me. I hate pumping grease by hand now.
 

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This is a tools I have or tools I actually use question.

If it’s tools I actually use and lithium batteries, the answer is 5 (dewalt 20v, Makita 18v, ryobi 18v, Milwaukee 12v, kobalt 80v).

I also have an old black and decker drill, hitachi drill and driver, senco drywall screw gun and rotozip tool, and a ryobi 7.2v drill, that never get used.

I may edit this if I think of any others I have laying around.
 

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Just out of a curiosity, I have not seen a house being built that when the tile goes in there isn't power hooked up already. So why the cordless tool? And as a GC, why the non pro tool?
When I was doing tile full time, I had a really small tile saw that never left the bed of my truck. If I had to go do a small repair or something that maybe just needed a couple of cuts I would sling a cord to my tailgate and knock out a couple of pieces. I even did this once in a parking garage of a highrise apartment building. Anyway, finding a plug for my extension cords in the parking garage was tough. This small saw only got used a few times a year. That craftsman tile saw costs a lot more than the little saw I had and the extension cords I had but it would be convenient for some stuff. Usually when I was needing to cut just one or two pieces it was past the time a tile saw could be setup in the house. My first cordless grinder was a life saver for small stuff doing tile. I always had one on the truck with a diamond blade on it.
 

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I only have Dewalt 18V and wouldn't mind adding a second platform (milwaukee 12V).

But that's it.
 
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