Anyone here build a fallout shelter?

[Monza Harry]

I can see the GM building from nearby my house [trees and buildings interfere not the distance] and OnStar is headquartered there, AM General uses GM stuff so an easy target for military vehicle support, and not for nothing, Ford's River Rouge complex even closer to my house [7.3 mi./12.2 Km by Google earth]. The big three basically built nearly everything during the 2nd WW and we won that one, a prudent opponent would take careful note of that. Any industrial area will be an eventual target if this ***** sets his world ********** plan into action. I feel it will not get that far [We are All Hoping!] but still a concern, in real terms let's hope a very, very, small concern. Also nearly every conflict the US Military goes, to Canada's Military is right there with your proud boys and girls! Some times first. Harry

 

[ZRX61]

Granite countertops are radioactive (they contain trace amounts of uranium).

They also give off Radon.

 

[jar944]

No need for a fallout shelter, I'll be charred red mist either way..

 

[WordMan]

They also give off Radon.

Makes sense, since Radon is a byproduct of the radioactive decay of Uranium and the Radium contained within it (a process I don't really understand).

 

[ZRX61]

Makes sense, since Radon is a byproduct of the radioactive decay of Uranium and the Radium contained within it (a process I don't really understand).

Big problem back home in Cornwall as the entire county is built on granite & it's used in place of regular bricks for construction

 

[ive]

I’ve realized there’s no point to trying to survive if the worst happens.

best seat under the first nuke indeed.

 

[PCustoms]

I’ve realized there’s no point to trying to survive if the worst happens.

best seat under the first nuke indeed.

Better to be a radioactive mutant zombie then try to fight them off.

 

[Crowbarman55]

Why do you want to make your in cemetery?
Todd

 

[danfromsyr]

see now thats smart
a bunker in a cemetery, no one will go looking for anyone there ;-)

 

[Crowbarman55]

see now thats smart
a bunker in a cemetery, no one will go looking for anyone there ;-)

And the neighbors are usually pretty quiet and rarely ask to borrow anything.
Todd

 

[cdeer001]

No need for a fallout shelter, I'll be charred red mist either way..

You and me both. Any fall shot or go long and they're in our lap.

 

[AndyL]

FB humor must be inserted

 

[FredWanaker]

more humor

 

[matt_i]

My reading of fallout suggested that it was all kinds of radioactive particles blasted into the atmosphere that were irradiating in all directions but most importantly downward for a few days until they actually settled out of the air.

That said, mass is your friend when trying to stop radiation. The inches of lead (Pb) sheeting is going to be hard to corral these days but a couple feet of concrete would be good.

Absent that it might be wise to go hang out in the lowest level of a parking structure for a few days....lots of overhead concrete...

 

[dcg9381]

Better to be a radioactive mutant zombie then try to fight them off.

Oh, I dunno.. That one is debatable. Lots of Texans are ready for the zombie apocalypse...

 

[ZRX61]

One of the main companies was already backed up a year on orders three years ago... If you get on the list now it will be over before you get a delivery date.

 

[Crowbarman55]

Oh, I dunno.. That one is debatable. Lots of Texans are ready for the zombie apocalypse...

But a cold spell of weather shuts things down?

 

[dcg9381]

But a cold spell of weather shuts things down?

No, we blame blame that on green power. Even though natural gas supplies were apparently not "winterized" enough to function during a few days of below <25 degrees and the fact that our power plants are mainly dinosaur powered, we still blame it on green power and Californians.

I've "over invested" in power generation, fuel (LPG), and have a large reserve of water. I'm woefully under stocked in terms of ammo (<1K rounds is pitiful in Texas). I have a vehicle that drives great on ice (dual lockers)... We're setup well to barter with the neighbors that are well stocked on ammo.

 

[ZRX61]

 

[driftpin]

My buddy from fire-rescue bought a nice home south of Ft. Lauderdale, and found a below-grade small bomb shelter in the backyard, accessed by a hatch. It was about the size of a walk-in closet, and empty. The house was probably a build from the late 1950's-early 1960's I estimate. It's < 1/4 mile from a Level 1 trauma facility.

He was also part-owner of a Perry submarine, probably a good place to sit out the initial deluge of big explosions. It would be hard to deploy when things begin happening though. Capable of life support submerge time of 7 days, and it's rated for to-1000 ft.

 

[dutchgray]

Basically a pointless exercise here, after certain documents were declassified and It became apparent with the amount of nukes aimed at our little country and the area left that was considered survivable from just the blasts was pretty much nothing.
You weren't going to be able to build something good enough to survive here in your own back yard.

Our local Government built nuke shelter, which was just for the local gov officials, military bods and selected individuals, to hide in long enough for the worst of the fallout to pass, then pop out to "run things" if anyone was left, was a quarter million sq foot, with a water supply from underground aquifers, diesel generators for power, fibre optic communication lines with the other bunkers (in the 80's).
God knows how much of our money was spent on it, its now long disused and in private ownership.
It was also built very near to one of our big under ground ammunition stores, so you know it was getting a direct hit.

The nuke subs (and the royal yacht) were set up to become the official seat of the government if needed back then.

 

[kaffine]

I used to work with a guy that has witnessed over 300 nuclear explosions. I think they are a lot more survivable than some think.

I live 100 miles away from the test site that has had over 1000 nuclear detonations during 928 tests.

 

[danfromsyr]

what? he's got other plans for thursday?

 

[nadogail]

I live at Ground Zero. Right between the carriers at North Island and the Destroyers, Cruisers and AmPhibs at Naval Station San Diego.

 

[FredWanaker]

there are some nice deep bunkers from WWII up on Point Loma if you can make it there.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

I had a few neighbors with shelters. I remember discussing with my father years ago. He was involved with fire department, civil defence, storm watching etc.
Not living in a prime target area helps improve odds of survival and buys a little time.


House with a basement, berm the outside walls and fill the first floor with several feet of dirt. Team up and pool resources with some neighbors/friends. Budget your expoure time (and yes some guys may sacrifice themselves).
Septic systems will still work. Plenty of wells (or creeks, ponds, lakes) around for water, most can be quickly wired up and run off a portable generator.
Unfortunately the biggest challenge may be defending against others who choose to take from you. Again not being a prime target will help.

 

[Jlbc212]

Nuclear War Survival Skills, by Cresson H. Kearny may be worth reading. Kearny claims a nuclear war is definitely survivable if you know what to do.

It would be better for the attacking country to detonate one or two nuclear bombs about 100 miles up in the atmosphere somewhere over Kansas. The resulting electro-magnetic pulse would destroy the nation's electric grid and most electronic equipment. Without electricity a huge segment of the population would die from starvation within a matter of months. The invading army would finish off the rest. Most of the country's natural resources would still be intact along with most of the buildings, bridges, etc. Within a year or two after all the corpses are burned up and the stench has dissipated the place could be readied for resettlement.

 

[pcmeiners]

"If it happens I will go outside and sit in a lawn chair so I can watch."

That is the most sane thing you can do. Had a small taste of radiation exposure for cancer treatment, and that was bad, I would not want to be around after a nuke attack; dying from radiation exposure is a horrible way to go, going via the blast is a lot quicker.

 

[ZRX61]

Anyone who survives the nukes is most likely going to die from the firefight at Costco...

 

[JRC3]

"If it happens I will go outside and sit in a lawn chair so I can watch."

Wright-Patterson AFB is literally in my backyard...I'll have a front row seat. lol

 

[ecotec]

I have a front row seat, as well.

I live close to the GM Tech Center and T.A.C.O.M.

It was explained to me that where I live WILL be hit if we get in a shootin’ war with the Ruskis.

 

[Lucky Llama]

The closest I am getting to a bomb shelter is my 30x50 cinder block garage, with concrete filled block.
It may not survive a blast and definitely not radiation. However its good for hurricanes and cold beer!

 

[dcg9381]

Why build one when you can buy one at 1/20th of the original construction costs?

Take a look inside a Cold War nuclear missile silo complex for sale in Kansas. The eerie property could be converted into an Airbnb, real estate agent says.

The Kansas property with a 170-foot-deep decommissioned missile silo, built to launch Atlas-F intercontinental missiles, has a $380,000 price tag.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[milkovich]

A small disaster kit with fresh water, first aid, and maybe a week or three of non-perishable food seems like a cheaper and more pragmatic approach to the "end times." Personally, I only have maybe 2 weeks to live after the insulin runs out so I'm rooting for a functioning and stable society.

 

[ed_v]

Old joke. A twist on old posted signs:

In case of fallout.... Stick it back in and take shorter strokes!

Sorry for the inappropriate humor. It was funny 40 years ago.

 

[cpttuna]

Sounds nice until you think about the odds that in an all out nuclear war that you would still have running water to work the toilet.

the above shelter was well stocked

 

[hoho98925]

Our current house has a fallout shelter built in 1959 under the garage.
The blueprints spec out 'Lead Curtains' for the under grade window, but they're not around.
It also shows a 500g fresh water tank, thats gone as well.
It's 2 bedrooms, a storage room and a full bathroom. About 500 square feet.

The orange paint and flourescent light came out really weird in the phone pics....

I'm guessing this is the reason for your fallout shelter.

It's not far from you. My wife's farmland borders it. I heard it may be for sale soon.

 

[nadogail]

Living only a mile from the pier where most of the Pacific Fleets Aircraft Carriers are home ported,I have resigned myself to the fact that i live at "Ground Zero" and have no hope for survival.

 

[kbeefy]

I'm guessing this is the reason for your fallout shelter.

It's not far from you. My wife's farmland borders it. I heard it may be for sale soon.

I saw that when I checked where 'Lamona Duck Lake Rd' was! I had heard about another silo, privately owned near Medical lakes, it seems this is a different one.

I went to a Titan II historical site in Tuscon last year, it was cool as heck!

We used to go play around the abandoned Nike missile sites in AK. There were several within 50 miles of where I grew up.
They made for good 'wargames' scenarios.

 

[kbeefy]

Living only a mile from the pier where most of the Pacific Fleets Aircraft Carriers are home ported,I have resigned myself to the fact that i live at "Ground Zero" and have no hope for survival.

Realistically, if someone pushes the button I think the whole planet is done. Except the cockroaches.... always the cockroaches.