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I'm another guilty samba member over here too, although I am not on that forum every day and am not a huge poster.

Same here! I used to be on there a lot when I first bought my Squareback (which was being sold in the classifieds), but I'm not on the forum as much as I want to be. :thumbup:
 

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nice work! A simpler design with nice details trumps the opposite in my opinion. I like the use of the native cedar, too. Wish I had some of my own to use when I built my cedar garage door!
 

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Your project is proof that very cool garages come in all sizes. The use of native cedar throughout your home and garage makes it special to you. Not everyone would go to the trouble of milling their own wood on site. I'm just guessing but I would say that the work "lazy" is not in your vocabulary.

Also, wanted to comment on the detail. I'm still in the design stages of my own project and it is the detail work that is really slowing things down for me. Like you, I agonize over decisions on what stone to use, what arch diameter is proper, what amount of trim will look best, etc.. However, I think it's all worth it when the finished project looks as nice as yours. Great design decisions and wonderful craftsmanship. Enjoy.
 

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And inside pics of your house would be cool too.

LOVE your driveway!
 
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are you the same shmo from Snowest?

Yep, same SHMO from good old snowest. I haven't been on there much, also haven't been on here obviously either. I am posting this about 6 months after your reply...sorry about that!...haha

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Well guys,

a lot of time has passed, and nothing much has changed at the SHMO household other than some landscaping, which turns out is almost more work than building the house. Who would have known?...haha

I am still contemplating stone. My latest idea is Eldorado stone's shadow rock. It's a faux stone, but I think the look would fit my place well. Now if I could just decide on a color...haha

Here is a couple pics of the houses interior. It's a work in progress, and there are still a couple rooms left to finish. If I only had more time! Between work, hobbies, family......just nothing is getting done in a hurry. Oh, I did build a really cool outdoor movie screen though. After I got done with that little project, I realized Everyone of us on this forum should have one. Way too much fun.

Anyway, here's some pics.

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I just read through your whole thread. You did an incredable job on the project and all that cedar work. I love the garage doors,and the colors look great together. The inside looks awesome too. Very nice concrete work too.
 

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The house and garage were sided and trimmed with reclaimed Cedar from the property. I was forced to cut down 43 Western Red cedars trees to make room for the house. I had a portable saw mill brought in and sliced up 10,000 board feet of rough cut lumber. I think that is one of the neatest features of my home.



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Front still needs stone installed. I can't make up my mind on a stone. I have been leaning towards using field stone with an overgrout technique, but if anyone has a different suggestion, I am all ears.


Hi SHMO, this looks great!

I am planning to do board and batten on my garage, and I was curious about the horizontal piece that runs between the board and batten and the shingled section on the front. Is there any flashing or seal that is needed there? I wouldn't be using the shingles, mine will have the boards on the upper section as well and I am not sure how to make sure water doesn't get behind at that point.
 
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ORD,

you do need to flash that area. I don't know if this is the actual name, but I often hear that horizontal board referred to as a "belly band". I wish I had some more detailed pics showing how the siding was installed, but I was elbows deep trying to do it and didn't take time out very often for pictures.

Here is a pic of the flashing, often called "Z flashing". It comes in specific sizes for the lumber you are using. Mine had to be custom bent in order to work with my full dimension lumber. My 2x6's for example are actually 2 inches X 6 inches. Long story short, You want to make sure you use the proper flashing for your material size.



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Here is one more thing to know before you install your siding.

Where you use flashing, like between your intended sidewall and gables, make sure you allow a small gap between the upper portion and the flashing. This allows the water to shed off the siding, drip onto the flashing and exit. If your siding comes in contact with the flashing, like in this pic, your siding will continually wick up water and eventually fail in this area.

I typically leave about 1/4 inch spacing between sidewall siding and flashing.

Hope this helps a little.



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Looking great!

What product did you use to finish the garage doors and exposed wood?
 

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What a lovely place & great use of 'free' lumber.:bowdown:

That link to the photo of a ships ladder is factually incorrect as any sailor will tell you-you always descend backwards.

When I was renovating & refurbishing my house, I looked at a space saver stairs with alternating treads but it would not meet what you guys call code. I could have gone with a spiral stairs but knowing I was going to use the loft as a living space and also where I would be utilising storage, I went with a traditional stairs-try getting a bed or sofa up a spiral staircase without the benefit of a galleried landing:shocking::wtf:

If you don't want to lose space in the garage, can you not put a staircase in externally?
 
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Looking great!

What product did you use to finish the garage doors and exposed wood?

SIkkens Cetol. It is a 2 coat product that has proven (for a few years anyway) to hold up extremely well. I chose the color natural oak to put over my cedar and absolutely love it

What a lovely place & great use of 'free' lumber.:bowdown:

That link to the photo of a ships ladder is factually incorrect as any sailor will tell you-you always descend backwards.

When I was renovating & refurbishing my house, I looked at a space saver stairs with alternating treads but it would not meet what you guys call code. I could have gone with a spiral stairs but knowing I was going to use the loft as a living space and also where I would be utilising storage, I went with a traditional stairs-try getting a bed or sofa up a spiral staircase without the benefit of a galleried landing:shocking::wtf:

If you don't want to lose space in the garage, can you not put a staircase in externally?


Oh Man, I wish that lumber was free....haha
To fall the trees = $500
To mill the lumber = $3500
To clear the stumps and dispose of the waste = $7500
Still in the scheme of things, it worked out really really well. I would do it again without hesitation.

As for the stairs, they have already been in for quite some time. However, they still are without handrails. I really need to get on that...haha

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That place is awesome! You should be proud of yourself... I don't know of any guy that could do that by himself

By the way, do you pay for snowest now? or did you stop going on there? it's a shame that you have to pay, i was just a lurker on there and a heavy poster on johndee.com What kinda sled you got?
 
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Thank you for the compliment. I think a lot of guys could pull it off, given the available time and wish to do it themselves. I was in a great situation in regards to my work and location to the house build. I literally live where I work, so...


As for Snowest, I hadn't spent much time there this season. When I heard word of the site moving to a pay per use, I decided to move on. I wasn't a lurker. I had been on that site for years upon years, and I posted a lot. At one point in my life I literally lived and breathed snowmobiles and 2-strokes. On a good season I could put in 35-45 rides and burn a 4-5 hundred gallons of race fuel.

My last sled was a 2005 Kingcat. I added a 162x2.5x15 camoplast extreme track, sled junky drop brackets, Boss seat, light weight hood, SLP single pipe with a D&D Y-pipe, delta reeds, airbox and a 60hp shot of nitrous. I really liked the sled, but sold it in order to build a M-1000 Turbo, which never happened. Maybe next year.

The sled before that you may have seen on Snowest. It was back in the day, but a really trick sled for the time. It was a custom built Hillclimber with an 1107cc triple on nitrous, 267hp at 465 pounds. Now that one was fairly rowdy!

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So Shmo, does that mean you don't have a sled at the moment?

As for a new snowmobiling site, you should check out johndee.com you'd fit right in there! i feel like a lonely flatlander on that site!
 

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SHMO,

Love the house and the garage. Well played sir. Your attention to detail and design are impressive. I did board and batten style on my lower walls as well but faked it with Hardipanel + miratec battens. My house (30 yrs old) is actually vertical channel cedar but it was crazy expensive when I started planning my garage.
 
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So Shmo, does that mean you don't have a sled at the moment?

As for a new snowmobiling site, you should check out johndee.com you'd fit right in there! i feel like a lonely flatlander on that site!

I don't have a sled at the moment. The plan, or should I say is the wife allows, is to build a Turbo M-1000 for next season. I have had my hands on several turbo sleds in the last few years, and it just makes sense. I am a horsepower junkie by nature and turbos seem to be a reliable way to have massive amounts of power. Making BIG power with my naturally aspirated motors always turned them into temperamental time bombs. So, if the wife allows and I can muster up the money, I will be back on the snow again by the beginning of next season.

SHMO,

Love the house and the garage. Well played sir. Your attention to detail and design are impressive. I did board and batten style on my lower walls as well but faked it with Hardipanel + miratec battens. My house (30 yrs old) is actually vertical channel cedar but it was crazy expensive when I started planning my garage.

I realized quickly that the cost of "buying" cedar was absolutely cost prohibitive for me. Originally, I even tinkered with the idea of just selling my cedar to purchase Hardiplank and end up with money in the bank. In retrospect I am glad I decided to have it milled and used it to side the house. Now when the time comes to re-stain, my feelings might change drastically. Man I am dreading that day!...hahha

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I don't have a sled at the moment. The plan, or should I say is the wife allows, is to build a Turbo M-1000 for next season. I have had my hands on several turbo sleds in the last few years, and it just makes sense. I am a horsepower junkie by nature and turbos seem to be a reliable way to have massive amounts of power. Making BIG power with my naturally aspirated motors always turned them into temperamental time bombs. So, if the wife allows and I can muster up the money, I will be back on the snow again by the beginning of next season.



I realized quickly that the cost of "buying" cedar was absolutely cost prohibitive for me. Originally, I even tinkered with the idea of just selling my cedar to purchase Hardiplank and end up with money in the bank. In retrospect I am glad I decided to have it milled and used it to side the house. Now when the time comes to re-stain, my feelings might change drastically. Man I am dreading that day!...hahha

SHMO

ahhh i see.. i like speed but i would rather have a sno-x sled that's light and quick. my 700 does 110 but i'd rather have it be the fastest sled from 0-60. i'm still young so i can't wait till i get to start my project sleds from scratch.
 
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Wanna see a quick one?

This is my buddies freakshow hill shooter. It is turboed 1200cc 2-stroke that makes 538hp before the nitrous. It does not currently hold any records, but it has been SPANKING every record holding sled on the snow. You may see it in videos like Mountain Mod mainia and a few others. Not exactly a snowcross sled, but it is definitely quick and fairly light. You need to make it out to the mountains if you have a chance. Ever since my first attempt at hillclimbing, short tracks and banging ditches was the furthest thing from my mind. Deep snow in the mountains is an absolute blast.

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Here is a quick video from the West Yellowstone drag races. Take a look at how bent out of shape the sled gets after it leaves the launch pad! Even during a somewhat out of control run, it was still able to beat the Turbo'd Yamaha beside him to take the overall win. In person, it looked like he passed the other sled like it was going backwards.

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Holy cow i dont' even know what to say! That thing is so fast i don't think i'm capable of drivin it! And yes, i know i DO need to make it out to the mountains. First though i need to do some U.P. backcountry riding. But for now if you can master banging ditches in my area, you're one cool dude! lol
 
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Mike,

the outdoor movie screen is a blast. We are really enjoying it. I have some more pictures I will post when I get home from work.

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Some more movie screen pics.


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The screen structure is all aluminum construction with a used vinyl billboard attached to it. The cost for the raw materials were roughly $700 not including the trailer. The overall dimensions of the screen are 10 feet high X 20 feet wide. The bottom of the screen is roughly 5 feet off the ground, making it around 15 feet tall when it is erected, hence the hinged assembly for transport. Currently (no pics) I am having some material stitched up to dress things up a little, basically black skirting to be installed via velcro to the bottom of the screen that will hide the ugly trailer. I am showing movies on it with an Epson 705HD projector through a Blu Ray player. I also have an additional DVD player that I can fade in and out for intro reels and special effects prior to the main feature. For audio, I am using a Crown xls402D amplifier rated at 300watts per channel, a Berhinger MX882 mixer and two Electro Voice SX300 speakers. I have most of the electronics housed in a rack case for easy transport and setup. I can have everything up and running in about 45 minutes with the help of one person. Take down we have down to about 15 minutes. I am extremely pleased with the performance of the whole package, screen size, picture quality, enveloping sound, everything. It is simply an awesome experience that I think every "garage guy" would enjoy. Now keep in mind that I am not just using this in my backyard. I wish! We own a campground and use it for entertaining our campers. Long gone are the days of "roughing it"....now campers want Latte's, miniature golf, paddle boats and drive in movies...haha
 
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The tickets are free with the rental of a campsite.....haha

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Well,

it has been forever and a day since I last updated this thread. With that said, I got a few things finished, or at least on their way towards being finished. I think some of these pics I have posted before, but I will add them here to have everything in one place.

On the front porch, I fabbed up some wrought iron handrails and had them powdercoated satin black. They sort of mimic the style on the interior of the house, only more rustic. I will be adding some milled cedar caps to top them off.

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Here there are completed

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On the theme of handrails, I also built some for the interior of the garage.....ohh, and I added a staircase leading up to the room over the garage...haha

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Here are a few shots showing the staircase and how I built it.



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My wife about had a conniption when I came home on my lunch break and cut a hole in the ceiling of the garage...haha


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I was forced to add a winder in order to fit the staircase into the space. It ended up working out really well in the end. The stairs don't take up a ton of garage space, and they are comfortable to climb and descend.


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Looking down after drywall was started.

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Here is a small niche I framed into the knee wall at the very top of the stairs.

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Looking up from the landing. You can see that the stairs are narrower than the opening. I intentionally built the handrails offset, giving a feel of a much wider staircase. That brainstorm worked out great! You can also see the wall to the right that I framed up. It divides the room over the garage from the staircase. An exterior door will go in that opening to seal it off. The room will be fully insulated, heated and cooled....more man space, or possibly a movie room. It could go either way :thumbup:


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