Icon 2100 lumen underhood light

[javyLSU]

$99 for a light that doesn't have a removable battery, and comes with a 90-day warranty. The manual quotes runtime at 2.5 hours on high (2100 lumens), 5.5 hours on medium (1000 lumens), and 12 hours on low (280 lumens). If it actually produces 2100 lumens (which I doubt) I don't see this light being able to work very long before the battery dying, and then having to not use it for 3 hours while it charges. I think my favorite "feature" in the product listing is where it says "Get up to 4200 lumens by adding a second lamp, available separately." LOL!!! I'll keep using my Milwaukee, thank you very much...

 

[Snapped-off]

Astro sells 2 nice underhood lights. I've got both of them.

 

[M635_Guy]

Yeah - on paper that seems like a miss.

I also have the Milwaukee, and would not anything that didn't have removable batteries.

 

[Odd-job]

At least they didn't copy Snap On. Guess Astro must be moving up in this world! or does Astro OEM for Icon now?!?




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[Maxcustody]

At least they didn't copy Snap On. Guess Astro must be moving up in this world! or does Astro OEM for Icon now?!?




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[gmcgeo]

What did that cost? i am afraid to have asked

 

[Maxcustody]

What did that cost? i am afraid to have asked

I think I paid $54. Very good light, magnetic, rotates and adjustable light output.

 

[gmcgeo]

I think I paid $54. Very good light, magnetic, rotates and adjustable light output.

That actually is not a bad price

 

[boom_bap]

Hmm, looks the same as their Braun light, which looks the same as that astro.

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Wonder if you ware mostly paying for that hood bar mount.

 

[Renegade1LI]

Not a big fan of braun lights, bought the 845 lm underhood light, it’s ok but i bought the Milwaukee and it blows it away. The ability to change out the battery is key for a light like this, i know you can get extra batteries for the Braun but it’s not the same. It was cheap compared to the Milwaukee but the Milwaukee clamping system blows it away. Same with the slim light, tried them ended up giving them away, Milwaukee just has a great line of lights.

 

[boom_bap]

Milwaukee just has a great line of lights.

I agree, I've got the 2352-20 stick light. It been a great light for me. I recently picked up the Braun. We shall see how it complements my other light. That Milwaukee has been awesome for automotive work I've been up to.

 

[AJHD]

I think I paid $54. Very good light, magnetic, rotates and adjustable light output.

You must have got it on sale. Regular price is $86.
I think I actually have the same light. I'll have to check the part # though. No idea how much I paid for mine, it's been a few years.

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[WWheeler]

I've been wanting that Milwaukee Under Hood light for a long time now but never could bring myself to do it. Then I saw this came out recently from Dewalt and had really been considering getting it. it's cheaper & brighter than the Milwaukee, and I like that it folds for use as a stand up light also. I can see me using it that way to help brighten up a wheel well or whatnot.

I guess all I needed was this thread to push me over the edge. It showed up a bit ago to brighten my day.

 

[CobraRed]

I dont get it. You buy that small floodlight under Braun and it's 750 lumens, they attach it to an underhood bar and now it's 2100 lumens?

 

[zendriver]

$99 for a light that doesn't have a removable battery, and comes with a 90-day warranty. The manual quotes runtime at 2.5 hours on high (2100 lumens), 5.5 hours on medium (1000 lumens), and 12 hours on low (280 lumens). If it actually produces 2100 lumens (which I doubt) I don't see this light being able to work very long before the battery dying, and then having to not use it for 3 hours while it charges. I think my favorite "feature" in the product listing is where it says "Get up to 4200 lumens by adding a second lamp, available separately." LOL!!! I'll keep using my Milwaukee, thank you very much...

You’re shitting on a new product, without trying it and then comparing it to another product it cost almost 3 times as much, without a battery or charger?

Relevance?

most other HF lighting products nowadays are pretty decent quality . Lion battery‘s seem to hang in there even with less expensive stuff.

I have their last generation of hanging tube light that hangs in there.

 

[AA/FC]

......or does Astro OEM for Icon now?!?

Does Astro even OEM their own stuff?

 

[javyLSU]

You’re shitting on a new product, without trying it and then comparing it to another product it cost almost 3 times as much, without a battery or charger?

Relevance?

most other HF lighting products nowadays are pretty decent quality . Lion battery‘s seem to hang in there even with less expensive stuff.

I have their last generation of hanging tube light that hangs in there.

Why would I need to try it when the things I'm complaining about are in black and white on their product listing? It does not have a removable battery, which makes continuous work with it impossible. It comes with a 90 day warranty. My Milwaukee comes with a 5 year warranty on the tool, lifetime warranty on the LEDs. I paid $129 for my Milwaukee under-hood light, this costs $99. I have yet to see any independent tests that show any Harbor Freight light that actually meets or exceeds its specified lumens rating. Interesting that the Astro light that looks to be from the same manufacturer as this new Icon is rated at 700 lumens by Astro. But, like you said - I haven't tried it myself, so I'll wait for @Torque Test Channel to verify that claim...

 

[Bubba Fett]

Most of these lights are all made by the same OEM in China. The Lumen claims can be...optimistic to say the least.

If you have an old work light that uses an incandescent light bulb, you may be able to swap the bulb with and LED and have a constant light source. Headband lights are also extremely handy since the shadow is cast away from you. They are great for working underneath a car.

 

[Wrench97]

Hmm, looks the same as their Braun light, which looks the same as that astro.

Harbor Freight Tools – Quality Tools at Discount Prices Since 1977

Harbor Freight buys their top quality tools from the same factories that supply our competitors. We cut out the middleman and pass the savings to you!

www.harborfreight.com

Wonder if you ware mostly paying for that hood bar mount.

I have both the Braun and the Astro while both are good the battery life is better on the Astro so I doubt they are the same battery.

 

[Odd-job]

Does Astro even OEM their own stuff?

As a self admitted Astro fan boy, I think OEM is a grey area in today's global world. Some of the stuff that they contract manufacture out, then slap someone else's name on it, is their own proprietary design. Wish we got that Astro ball joint press with the screw on adapters...

I have both the Braun and the Astro while both are good the battery life is better on the Astro so I doubt they are the same battery.

Good to know. I was wondering if the Braun was a better value.

 

[AA/FC]

As a self admitted Astro fan boy, I think OEM is a grey area in today's global world. Some of the stuff that they contract manufacture out, then slap someone else's name on it, is their own proprietary design. Wish we got that Astro ball joint press with the screw on adapters...

I agree, lets just use plain English... Does Astro even MAKE anything themselves? Do they own ANY manufacturing equipment, facilities, etc? Honest question.

These companies who are simply a name that are advertising "their own stuff" can really make it hard to know WHO actually makes WHAT. It's like that time there was a guy on here who honestly posted that Tekton was manufacturing rubber air hose for Goodyear. lolol... Yeah, like one of the largest rubber companies in the world, who also happens to be one of the largest rubber hose manufactures in the world REALLY needs a small company like Tekton to make rubber air hose FOR them. Not to mention Tekton is another company that doesn't actually MAKE anything. lol

And even though I absolutely love Tekton's new hard handle screwdrivers, they don't every admit to making ANY tools themselves. They do admit to using manufacturers all around the world, however.... including the USA which is where the new screwdrivers are made.

If I designed a new tool, and had someone else make it for me, does that suddenly make me a manufacturer? I honestly don't know. It would be my design, and I would also be the seller..... I didn't actually MAKE anything, but am I a "manufacturer" now? And if I am now a "manufacturer".... then what do we call the ACTUAL manufacturer? The company who actually made the tool?

Sears Craftsman never made a single tool in over a century of selling tools. Not one. Was craftsman considered a manufacturer, or just a brand sold (owned) by Sears?

I ask these questions only because I am curious..... I don't dislike Astro or Tekton. I just hate if/when a company tries to deceive people. If you don't actually make your own products, so what. Just be honest and up-front about it. If your tool design is good, people will still buy it regardless of who's name is on the factory.

 

[Odd-job]

I heard on the internet that Continental bought Goodyear's USA made rubber hose operations or at least the naming rights. At least that's who makes the good rubber garden hoses at Home Depot

Plain English, don't think Astro or Tekton (would also put VIM/Durham in the same bucket) make anything themselves. Astro seems to have mostly engineers on headcount. They also seem to be able to source some raw materials and have supply chain logistics, but don't think they ever claimed to have actual manufacturing facilities, but rather partners/suppliers/etc. The more I think about it they are not unlike Cornwell, Snap On, Matco, Mac and some SBD brands except for the fact they don't tend to buy other people's designs to sell under their own name. If we are talking about pure play engineering through manufacturing and branding they are out there, but mostly specialty stuff... Malco, Zephyr bits, Ajax, Mayhew, Proamerica, Lang. Feel free to correct me.

 

[AA/FC]

You can't put Snap-on, Mac, Matco, Cornwell, and SBD all in the same category. Matco doesn't make a single tool. Not one. Only tool boxes. Snap-on does indeed own many of their own factories all over the USA and in foreign counties where they manufacture their own tools for Snap-on. Snap-on factories have the Snap-on name printed on the outside of the building and the employees receive paychecks with the Snap-on name on the top left of the check. Cornewell also has their own factory (maybe more than one), along with Mac and SBD.. (SBD actually owns MAC) Does that mean Snap-on, Cornwell, MAC, and SBD make ALL their own tools. No, that's not what I'm saying. They all buy some stuff from other manufacturers and put their names on that stuff but at least when they call themselves a manufacturer, it's because they ACTUALLY manufacture stuff.

As for the sale of the Goodyear hose operation being sold to Continental. That doesn't surprise me....... If Tekton suddenly became the new owner, THAT would surprise me. lolol.

 

[Odd-job]

You can't put Snap-on, Mac, Matco, Cornwell, and SBD all in the same category. Matco doesn't make a single tool. Not one. Only tool boxes. Snap-on does indeed own many of their own factories all over the USA and in foreign counties where they manufacture their own tools for Snap-on. Snap-on factories have the Snap-on name printed on the outside of the building and the employees receive paychecks with the Snap-on name on the top left of the check. Cornewell also has their own factory (maybe more than one), along with Mac and SBD.. (SBD actually owns MAC) Does that mean Snap-on, Cornwell, MAC, and SBD make ALL their own tools. No, that's not what I'm saying. They all buy some stuff from other manufacturers and put their names on that stuff but at least when they call themselves a manufacturer, it's because they ACTUALLY manufacture stuff.

As for the sale of the Goodyear hose operation being sold to Continental. That doesn't surprise me....... If Tekton suddenly became the new owner, THAT would surprise me. lolol.

I see where you are coming from. Snap on probably better than most with a higher % of self manufactured stuff including Bahco, but I'm guessing the % is slowly falling. Cornwell sounds like its going the way of Matco with a smaller and smaller %. Wonder if Astro and Tekton are on to something with their manufacturing-less business models. It is too bad they weren't interested in SK or Western Forge. SK could have really used someone else's innovation and/or the Astro engineering team and product managers.

 

[dstblj52]

I agree, lets just use plain English... Does Astro even MAKE anything themselves? Do they own ANY manufacturing equipment, facilities, etc? Honest question.

These companies who are simply a name that are advertising "their own stuff" can really make it hard to know WHO actually makes WHAT. It's like that time there was a guy on here who honestly posted that Tekton was manufacturing rubber air hose for Goodyear. lolol... Yeah, like one of the largest rubber companies in the world, who also happens to be one of the largest rubber hose manufactures in the world REALLY needs a small company like Tekton to make rubber air hose FOR them. Not to mention Tekton is another company that doesn't actually MAKE anything. lol

And even though I absolutely love Tekton's new hard handle screwdrivers, they don't every admit to making ANY tools themselves. They do admit to using manufacturers all around the world, however.... including the USA which is where the new screwdrivers are made.

If I designed a new tool, and had someone else make it for me, does that suddenly make me a manufacturer? I honestly don't know. It would be my design, and I would also be the seller..... I didn't actually MAKE anything, but am I a "manufacturer" now? And if I am now a "manufacturer".... then what do we call the ACTUAL manufacturer? The company who actually made the tool?

Sears Craftsman never made a single tool in over a century of selling tools. Not one. Was craftsman considered a manufacturer, or just a brand sold (owned) by Sears?

I ask these questions only because I am curious..... I don't dislike Astro or Tekton. I just hate if/when a company tries to deceive people. If you don't actually make your own products, so what. Just be honest and up-front about it. If your tool design is good, people will still buy it regardless of who's name is on the factory.

the lingo in production and sourcing environments is OEM/CM is the person who builds your design generally an OEM will adapt it to an existing platform of theirs whereas a CM will make it fully or nearly full custom, and ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) is when you stick you name on something they already made or make a few modifications at most to that design. Lots of names like brand or manufacturer get used for the customer who resells and provides usually their own support and warranty for such products

 

[AA/FC]

the lingo in production and sourcing environments is OEM/CM is the person who builds your design generally an OEM will adapt it to an existing platform of theirs whereas a CM will make it fully or nearly full custom, and ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) is when you stick you name on something they already made or make a few modifications at most to that design. Lots of names like brand or manufacturer get used for the customer who resells and provides usually their own support and warranty for such products

What about companies who design, manufacture and sell THEIR OWN products from scratch, start to finish, in company owned factories, by company employees. What are those companies called?

 

[WhataTool]

I agree, lets just use plain English... Does Astro even MAKE anything themselves? Do they own ANY manufacturing equipment, facilities, etc? Honest question.

These companies who are simply a name that are advertising "their own stuff" can really make it hard to know WHO actually makes WHAT. It's like that time there was a guy on here who honestly posted that Tekton was manufacturing rubber air hose for Goodyear. lolol... Yeah, like one of the largest rubber companies in the world, who also happens to be one of the largest rubber hose manufactures in the world REALLY needs a small company like Tekton to make rubber air hose FOR them. Not to mention Tekton is another company that doesn't actually MAKE anything. lol

And even though I absolutely love Tekton's new hard handle screwdrivers, they don't every admit to making ANY tools themselves. They do admit to using manufacturers all around the world, however.... including the USA which is where the new screwdrivers are made.

If I designed a new tool, and had someone else make it for me, does that suddenly make me a manufacturer? I honestly don't know. It would be my design, and I would also be the seller..... I didn't actually MAKE anything, but am I a "manufacturer" now? And if I am now a "manufacturer".... then what do we call the ACTUAL manufacturer? The company who actually made the tool?

Sears Craftsman never made a single tool in over a century of selling tools. Not one. Was craftsman considered a manufacturer, or just a brand sold (owned) by Sears?

I ask these questions only because I am curious..... I don't dislike Astro or Tekton. I just hate if/when a company tries to deceive people. If you don't actually make your own products, so what. Just be honest and up-front about it. If your tool design is good, people will still buy it regardless of who's name is on the factory.

From what I've read here over the years it appears they do make USA eraser wheels (those detail adhesive wheels) next to their headquarters, like they own the machines, tooling and pay the employees.
Outside of that, yeah there isn't like an "Astro" factory otherwise it would probably be all one type of product like all sockets, all this all that. They have Astro owned locations in Taiwan, staff there, machines and tooling there making their stuff in some cases. And IP like designs, patents and exclusives, but not one house it's coming out of.
Probably in part because at least in China a foreign entity cant own more than 49% of a factory. At least they can't in my industry.

This is why when you go to Korea you can find a Samsung factory, but when you go to China there's no Apple factory. It's Foxxcon.
But I'm pretty sure people consider Samsung and Apple to be contemporaries in the market.