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Turn the power off! You had energized, exposed bare wires sliding around while you were handling an easily sparkable metal box while surrounded by loose insulation that is who knows how old, with who knows how effective fire retardant. Turn the power off. I would have turned the whole building off if necessary. At the bare minimum, put a wire nut on the end of each wire.
And try to push the insulation up into the attic so that it will possibly later settle back into the void. No way you should have lost a whole pillow worth of insulation out a 4 inch hole.
It's a foot deep up there.
On Tuesday I messed with switches & the vote pen, managed to get all the wires dead at the ceiling, no more tickles.

The wiring is a bit suspect. At the ceiling we have white, green red & black. One of each.
At the switches for the light & the fan we have a red & a black on one switch, black & black on the other switch. No clue where the white neutral is at that end... but there's a LOT of wires in the wall box.
 
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And that is why a service guy is worth his weight in gold folks.
Anybody can do new construction work. Hahaha
The maint guy who showed up on Tuesday had come by a couple of weeks back & said he couldn't do the install without tearing out a bunch of the ceiling. He seemed lost when I mentioned the bracket that goes in through the 4in hole from the bottom. He was amazed that I did it.
 

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It's a foot deep up there.
On Tuesday I messed with switches & the vote pen, managed to get all the wires dead at the ceiling, no more tickles.

The wiring is a bit suspect. At the ceiling we have white, green red & black. One of each.
At the switches for the light & the fan we have a red & a black on one switch, black & black on the other switch. No clue where the white neutral is at that end... but there's a LOT of wires in the wall box.
Fan is wired so the fan and the light are on separate switches. Many times in older construction, the neutral never went into the switch box. Please tell me you only hooked up either the black or the red, not both. And left the other capped with a wire nut....
 

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The maint guy who showed up on Tuesday had come by a couple of weeks back & said he couldn't do the install without tearing out a bunch of the ceiling. He seemed lost when I mentioned the bracket that goes in through the 4in hole from the bottom. He was amazed that I did it.
There's a big differance between a maintenance guy and a licensed electrician who runs service/remodels. Hahaha
 
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Fan is wired so the fan and the light are on separate switches. Many times in older construction, the neutral never went into the switch box. Please tell me you only hooked up either the black or the red, not both. And left the other capped with a wire nut....
Yup, red is capped.
 
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If I had access on the attic side I would have framed out a stout box for it.
Cut out from bottom side, it’s easy , just took a few day longer because of the s dry wall mud and repaint. I do that few times. Not that difficult but lots more work. Unless you have pop corn ceilings, then you are sol.
 

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for experienced drywall patchers , cutting out and patching the drywall is not a big deal. it can be overwhelming for those that haven't dealt with much in the way of drywall repairs .
 
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