Outside Conduit At Wall for Ethernet CAT6?

[pgtr]

Having new house and detached garage built. I asked them to give me a wired CAT6 drop at the garage. So far they have a CAT6 cable exiting the sheathing... They have yet to put up the stone siding there or bring Cat6 over to the garage.

I was thinking of using a small Type LB conduit body on the stone (and short piece of conduit thru the stone) and 90* down to the ground in conduit (and same LB at garage). It would be buried between 2 buildings.

Other suggestions for conduit for CAT6 entering/exiting exterior wall?

 

[mike93lx]

Yeah, skip the cat6 and use fiber. It eliminates a common surge path that can kill expensive equipment.

If you can't enter/exit below ground, an LB is the standard way to do it

 

[pgtr]

OK - thanks (no can't enter thru foundation - will be buried and come up side of slab and in...)

QUESTION - Is it worth putting in a single gang box in the stone and mounting the LB to it? (vs running a conduit tube straight thru the stone to the LB)

I ask because a gang box would give me the option of coiling up some slack (if needed) and space for putting an ethernet coupler (if needed) inside of the bang box...

 

[mike93lx]

OK - thanks (no can't enter thru foundation - will be buried and come up side of slab and in...)

QUESTION - Is it worth putting in a single gang box in the stone and mounting the LB to it? (vs running a conduit tube straight thru the stone to the LB)

I ask because a gang box would give me the option of coiling up some slack (if needed) and space for putting an ethernet coupler (if needed) inside of the bang box...

Not sure i follow. But if you need space, put the box inside. The lb should have enough room for a coupler, but I would want to avoid that

 

[dcg9381]

The elbow is fine. If you don't want do to fiber consider grounded CAT6. What they are telling you about induction is correct, it just takes a lightening strike hundreds of feet away to light this CAT6 up.

The elbow is fine. I tend to do mine with the following box:

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[jeepxj]

i'd pull 2 runs of cat6 and not worry about it. if one burns up move to the other one. when that burns up just pull them both and pull 2 new ones in. NBD.

an LB is perfectly fine. you could do a 6x6x6 and just come out the bottom with conduit as well if you want some coil room.

 

[pgtr]

My ideas was a 1 gang box set flush in the stone by the mason crew for the CAT6. Mount the LB to the gang box (actually to blank plate on gang box w/ appropriate hole).

It would still be about as visible as just the LB (for aesthetics) but give me a little space to coil some slack or put in a coupler if needed...

Thanks again

 

[dcg9381]

Definitely 2 CAT6 cables. When and if they're hit by inductive current, they do not burn up mid-wire, they burn at the ends, so "generally" they can be repaired. I've never had a direct strike through.

 

[yatg]

So far they have a CAT6 cable exiting the sheathing... They have yet to put up the stone siding there or bring Cat6 over to the garage.

If they only stubbed out a few feet of cable from the house and plan on wirenutting the next length, they ain't qualified.

You want a continuous run from near your house router to near your garage switch/hub or computer or whatever you're using out there. Its preferable to use a punchdown jack and run a patch cord to the equipment vs. field terminating rj45 plugs.

I ask because a gang box would give me the option of coiling up some slack (if needed) and space for putting an ethernet coupler (if needed) inside of the bang box...

You DO NOT want to use couplers midline. Its 4 more points of failure, each RJ45 plug and the contacts on each side of the coupler. Outside you'll have condensation in the box or coming up into the box from the buried conduit. Not good. And you really should be using outdoor cable, even if its in conduit.

Leave a few feet of slack in the house and in the garage near the endpoints, (in the wall, in the attic, in the basement or crawlspace) but don't wad it up in an outside box. Depending on your layout, are you even going to be able to pull it back from the outside box to use it?

 

[mike93lx]

You want a continuous run from near your house router to near your garage switch/hub or computer or whatever you're using out there. Its preferable to use a punchdown jack and run a patch cord to the equipment vs. field terminating rj45 plugs.

This is a good point. All they should be doing is stunning conduit and maybe a pull string. Cable comes only when the conduit is complete

 

[beemerphile]

I will put no more copper ethernet in the ground. My problem was not burning wire, but bricking expensive HP managed switches. I had ethernet surge suppressors on both ends, but the switches protected them by blowing first. I finally in desperation placed throwaway TP-Link Switches where the suppressors used to be. They work by dying first and are cheaper than surge suppressors, however I lost the ability to do link aggregation on my managed switches. Therefore, fiber in the ground. If you don't have switches with SFP ports, you can use media converters into an ordinary switch.

 

[Metal-Marc]

Yeah, skip the cat6 and use fiber. It eliminates a common surge path that can kill expensive equipment.

This.