So here is the back story that lead up to this build. My wife owns a small hair salon and rents a space just about a mile from our house. She was told we could purchase the space or they were selling it out from under her when her lease is up. I told her we could build out our 2 car garage into a space for her business if she was cool with moving her business to the house. But I told her we had to have a garage if we did that. The next week I found out my dad is selling my grandfathers house next door where I store my boat so now theres no choice but to build a shop. I settled on a 30x50 after viewing my friends building. I feel with proper setup I can have enoigh space for all my vehicles my tools ,boat and my lift. Building will have an air system,woodwoork and metal fab area, then all my automotive tools gathered over the last 20 years. I am going to also be looking to upgrade from my scissor lift to a two post 10k lift to be able to pick up my truck and service it. Still looking at buildings but size is nailed down and hoping to order in the next couple weeks
Above 1200 Sq/FT My new garage build! 30x50 !
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jarhead
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That is a nice size, I am having a 30 x 54 shop space being built.
So today I finally pulled the trigger on a building! I have been going back and forth between several companies but ended up going with eversafe. I am opting for real garage doors instead of rollup doors, and installing a steel man door from my old garage and replacing that door with a nice frosted glass door for more light in the soon to be new salon. Next up is lining out for the building and some site prep. I am doing a lot of the work myself, acting as GC but using subs for block and concrete work. I plan to wire everything from the panel but have an electrician who will pull power to the panel. Pics coming!
jimzz2006
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Go 36' wide.. I regretted my 30' almost immediately when I started moving stuff in
Eversafe has been a joke so far, I waited 8 weekes for site specific plans afte rmy town rejected my setup I was doing, and they told me no, but waited 8 weeks before telling me no. My sales guy has been no help, and the entire process has been rough. I am still awaiting my concrete footers being poured. Hopefully soon this process will get smoother but Im doubtful.
Lou's Garage
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For whatever reason, this industry has been disrupted by COVID more so than many others. I've heard lots of horror stories and 8 weeks from deposit to erection is not abnormal but drawings should be available for the asking.
It sounds like you need engineering drawings to satisfy your zoning department. If you are in the Southeast and seeking alternatives, I had a very good experience during the early part of the pandemic with my 30 x 50 from Pre-Built structures in Mount Airy, NC (see facebook). I'm not sure if Victor has the capability to supply drawings, but it would definitely be worth the call. Two others that I looked at and considered were Eagle Buildings and Carolina Carport, either of those companies should be able to supply the proper permit paperwork.
If you are self-contracting and need an actual site plan to go with drawings you already have provided, you may have to come up with that yourself. I hesitate to get any more specific as building departments vary by municipality and my experiences could be vastly different from yours. The only consistent successful avenue I have found is make an appointment with and talk directly to a building inspector. They tend to tell you what you can do, not just what you can't.
Lou Manglass
It sounds like you need engineering drawings to satisfy your zoning department. If you are in the Southeast and seeking alternatives, I had a very good experience during the early part of the pandemic with my 30 x 50 from Pre-Built structures in Mount Airy, NC (see facebook). I'm not sure if Victor has the capability to supply drawings, but it would definitely be worth the call. Two others that I looked at and considered were Eagle Buildings and Carolina Carport, either of those companies should be able to supply the proper permit paperwork.
If you are self-contracting and need an actual site plan to go with drawings you already have provided, you may have to come up with that yourself. I hesitate to get any more specific as building departments vary by municipality and my experiences could be vastly different from yours. The only consistent successful avenue I have found is make an appointment with and talk directly to a building inspector. They tend to tell you what you can do, not just what you can't.
Lou Manglass
Basically since I have an unlevel lot I wanted a footer to build a stem wall on and then pour slab for the building. They had me wait 8 weeks after explaining what I needed and then asked me what I wanted for site specific plans. As soon as I told them they told me no and told me I had to find a local engineer to draw that up. I was able to do that and get it approved by my town codes dept, but the entire experience has just been terrible. The town hasnt been great to deal with either so that doesnt help.
Sadly the 'city/town' building department being difficult and unreasonable seems to be a common theme for most of us building workshops/garages. My city really put me through the ringer to get my permit too.
Keep at it in 5 years all the trouble with your city getting a permit will be just a distant memory and you'll have a great building to enjoy!
So as the garage build sits idle things have really ramped up on the atrached garage remodel. Had a pod delivered to hold my tools and supplies while I get busy in here. Doors and windows arrived today for the project along with mini split for hvac in attached garage and room above garage.
I have footers finally! Of course they showed up to pour them whole I was gone on vacation, but they are poured and complete. Also had enough concrete left over to fill in my trench in the attached garage where I roughed in plumbing. Before I left for vacation I pulled the double garage door and got my buddy to help me frame in the opening and get the door set in there. He came over and finished the brick molding while I was gone and started on top and bottom plates for the bathroom and closet I am adding for my wifes salon. Footers got poured in, somewhat irritated since the concrete truck cracked the corner of my driveway when they were supposed to back in thru the yard. But I have progress so thats good enough for me for now.
So block is ordered for the big garage, had to get local block manufacturer to make a special run so I can get a 12x8x16 splitface block. If I go with a standard block for the walls, my wife will want to cover it in stone facade like the front of our house, so the additional cost for split face will end up being much cheaper than adding stone facade to it. So while I wait 3 weeks for block, I got my buddy over yesterday and we knocked out the interior framing for my attached garage. Bathroom and closet are framed in,and I thought would be ready for inspection. I stead after stopping by my town hall, they wont let me do an inspection until I add foam to my slab to make it an energy slab, and wont inspect framing until my mechanical is roughed in. Their reasoning is so odd but I have to roll with it. Hoping to have mechanical and slab insulation done by tomorrow so I can get a single inspector to comensign off on all three.
Andersonst
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First time poster. I have a 30x40x12 eversafe building coming soon. I signed my contract end of July, had to get engineered drawings then get permits, have a cement pad poured, after that it was moved to scheduling (8 to 10 weeks) now I'm about a month (or less) from install. So yes 5 month completion time isn't really unrealistic.
I was wondering if anyone used the bubble foil wrap during construction. I know there needs to be an air gap and was curious if the wrap is smashed between the frame and the metal skin or do they use some type of spacer to keep the required gap?
I ordered the double bubble foil insulation with my building my buddy has it on his shop and its just sandwiched between the metal as best I can tell. I plan to add plywood or osb to my inner walls and I am considering putting r 13 batts in between the wall and board to help with keeping the cold out. Not much progress on my building, waiting for special order split face block so I wont have to add stone facade to block afterwards.
Block get delivered next week, went ahead and grabbed 4 tons of sand to be ready for the block masons. I have completed my framing, mechanical, insulation and plumbing inspections have been passed for my attached garage/salon for the wife. Sheetrock going in next week and hoping to get the sheetrock finished quickly so I can get some paint on the walls and get my flooring in. So much stuff stacked in that space and the only way to get rid of it is to install it all.
billconner
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So much has been happening on top of my rediculous work schedule its time to catch this all up with some pics!
Block masons came and knocked out my block for my garage. Ended up adding 1 additional course to make it all work a bit better with my grade. Initially they would not layout the block and requested I have a surveyor pin the corners for them. So I had to stop and get a surveyor out there, who then told me my footer was 3 inches too short on one side( it wasnt). The issue ended up being that the dirt around the footer kept falling in onto the concrete so after some thorough digging and scraping I was able to it all good to go. Guys knocked out the block and as soon as it had setup I ordered a truck of pump mix and had a couple guys come pump the walls full of concrete. That got most of the block filled and left me with about 2 courses to top off when I poured the slab. Next up was finding someone to pour the slab, estimates were all over
the place. I had already brought in all the gravel (15 tandem axle dump trucks) and we had spread and compacted.
Block masons came and knocked out my block for my garage. Ended up adding 1 additional course to make it all work a bit better with my grade. Initially they would not layout the block and requested I have a surveyor pin the corners for them. So I had to stop and get a surveyor out there, who then told me my footer was 3 inches too short on one side( it wasnt). The issue ended up being that the dirt around the footer kept falling in onto the concrete so after some thorough digging and scraping I was able to it all good to go. Guys knocked out the block and as soon as it had setup I ordered a truck of pump mix and had a couple guys come pump the walls full of concrete. That got most of the block filled and left me with about 2 courses to top off when I poured the slab. Next up was finding someone to pour the slab, estimates were all over
the place. I had already brought in all the gravel (15 tandem axle dump trucks) and we had spread and compacted.Attachments
Heres a quick look after 12 loads of gravel had come in. I topped the wall with a 3 inch split face to hold the concrete in , and matched the fall of the driveway to my existing driveway. Most of the water sheds about 10 feet ahed of the end of the wall so I will watch it and possibly build a river rock swale to keep it off the neighbors if it becomes a problem. While bringing in rock I had a small area that driveway would not be possible to match up due to drop in elevation so my buddy scored me a pallet of nice wall block and cap stone for 100 bucks and we put in a dry stack bock wall to separate the top portion of my old driveway from the new drive way to the garage.
This gives me a place to make a nice bed with some shrubs to give my garage a bit of privacy from my wifes business which will be in the old garage. Need to get some backfill in there and get it cleaned out and planted.
Finally nailed down a concrete contractor who wasnt unreasonably priced. I had slab dead nuts to where I wanted it and had compacted all my gravel in lifts, we had put up form boards with tapcons into the blockand had forms braced off and ready to rock. Grabbed some vapor barrier and wire mesh and had it all ready to rock for the concrete guys.
All the dump trucks and concrete trucks have been really hard on my poor driveway, ended up breaking off both corners of my apron and cracking another portion on each side at the front of my driveway. We cut those out with a quickie saw and repoured those when we redid the driveway.
All the dump trucks and concrete trucks have been really hard on my poor driveway, ended up breaking off both corners of my apron and cracking another portion on each side at the front of my driveway. We cut those out with a quickie saw and repoured those when we redid the driveway.
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Well yesterday I had it all poured and no amount of prep can get you completely ready for what an 80000 lb truck can do. The slab was about 30 yards which was almost spot on to what I expected. Unfortunately the trucks pulling in up the new driveway even with the gravel being compacted, managed to take my 4 inch drive way and mash it down to a 6 inch driveway. We qould rake in the gravel but those massive tires compacted it so deep in the ruts that everything ends up being thicker because of material being moved around. It became pretty obvious that it was gonna take more than the 50 yards we had estimated. I could hear my wallet beginning to scream but I was fully committed at this point. 
Slab was looking good and all they had done so far was bull float it. They were just starting to trowel it out and things were beginning to come together.
These guys did an excellent job and were hard at it for 12 hours. I am very happy with the results and enjoyed watching them get after it. Meanwhile in my muddy mess of a backyard I had a buddy plopping in trees to make a screen between me and my future neighbors. My grandfathers house is behind my house and my dad sold it to some Californians who came in and took a forestry head bobcat to all the growth between us. Having lost my natural barrier I am trying to get a screen between us before they begin demo on his house and attempt to make some kind of mcmansion out of it.
Slab was looking good and all they had done so far was bull float it. They were just starting to trowel it out and things were beginning to come together.
These guys did an excellent job and were hard at it for 12 hours. I am very happy with the results and enjoyed watching them get after it. Meanwhile in my muddy mess of a backyard I had a buddy plopping in trees to make a screen between me and my future neighbors. My grandfathers house is behind my house and my dad sold it to some Californians who came in and took a forestry head bobcat to all the growth between us. Having lost my natural barrier I am trying to get a screen between us before they begin demo on his house and attempt to make some kind of mcmansion out of it.
At the point where all these projects come to a head. This past week I had the mini splits for my attached garage sucked down and got them up and running, we have painted the entire inside and working on the lower color now since its a two tone look. I have finished all the LVT and have finally gotten most of the trim in, just needs installed. Led cove lightig has arrived to go under crown moulding, Sliding door hardware is up and door just has to be put on the rail. After working 24 hours straight monday between my regular job and hauling trees for the back yard Tuesday was spent in bed with a fever and hallucinations. Wednesday was another all day work at home and then night shift followed by an hour of sleep before inspector came by thursday morning to check out plumbing and mechanical finals. Electrical inspector came by about 2 hours later and passed my Electrical final so all thats left is to pass my final which onvolves some cleanup outside and inside and I can be mostly done with wifes salon project. I just have to make it thru the night tonight at work and make it until 3 tomorrow afternoon and its gonna be benadryl and sleep until saturday morning. Then back at it until I go to work Saturday night
jarhead
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looks like allot of work.
Too bad they cut down so many trees on your Grandfathers property. I think we have planted somewhere around 350 trees in the last 28 years.
Too bad they cut down so many trees on your Grandfathers property. I think we have planted somewhere around 350 trees in the last 28 years.
Most all of them are whatever grew wild but there are some nice oaks over there and eastern red cedars which I love. They are gonna have them removed also, but not much I can do about it except put in as many as I can to screen them out. Passed my final on my attached garage yesterday and finally got to go to bed! 16 hours of sleep and back at it. Hanging cabinets for her today, led cove lighting and a crazy vinyl mural of sorts across the back wall of my former garage. 36 hours to convert "habitable space" into a fully functioning hair salon. Lets go!
Busy day installing **** for the salon, this mess was the highlight of the day. 
Take a bare wall, and then add vinyl to it.
This mess is just hanging from push pins currently to get it to relax some but tomorrow I get to install it all. The guy makes it look so easy in the video and he overlaps each piece by about 3/8 of an inch so there arent any gaps. Think it will be a cool look for her. She is pretty stoked to see it done.
Take a bare wall, and then add vinyl to it.
This mess is just hanging from push pins currently to get it to relax some but tomorrow I get to install it all. The guy makes it look so easy in the video and he overlaps each piece by about 3/8 of an inch so there arent any gaps. Think it will be a cool look for her. She is pretty stoked to see it done.
After a 36 hour straight marathon yesterday and all day today since 0700 I have pretty much got my wifes salon knocked out. Only project left is finishing trim which includes led lighting and paint touch ups. She passed her state board inspection today and can start working from here tomorrow. Final look is pretty good and with this behind me I can begin to focus on my garage which is the real reason we are all here. Sent Eversafe pics of my slab as soon as it was poured so they cpuld get me on the list. After some back and forth I still dont have an answer as to when they plan to get my building out here. Looking at what to do with my slab, buddy has his epoxy coated and it looks awesome, my cousin just went with a sealer on his. Wondering if theres a stain and sealer combo I could do to get the best of both worlds?
Thank you. This time last year I was rebuilding a 4 runner front end in there and doing Toyota timing belts like crazy. This morning I took a break from the wifes stuff and swept up the dust on my slab and blew it all off before it rained. According to the concrete guy I can park on it now so if I get time today I will pull the form boards and maybe go grab my boat from my buddys house. I hate not having my stuff here where I can keep eyes on it. I have a pod sitting in front of the salon and I need to see about having it moved to my new driveway to make parking space for my wifes clients now that mine is good to go for parking.
Finally heard back from eversafe. 4 weeks or less for building to get here. Hoping its on the less side. I have to go pickup my siding for the front of the building as its here, and my stone should be ready for the house and building next week. 
First offical job in the "garage" today. Installed a new starter in an accord for a lady I used to work with when I was still wrenching. Nothing to it but to pop 2 bolts and the power and solenoid wires off slide it out and new one back on. Spent more time digging thru my pod to get correct tools than it took to do job. 
Finally got a call fromEversafe today and have a nailed down date for the building install od March 6th. Stone to be delivered onThursday the 16th, so we can get moving forward on that asap for the attached garage and get it looking good for the wifes business. I have to remove the siding from it and get some wire lath so we can stucco is and attachcthe stone. I will try and do as much of this as possible so the masons can just focus on knocking out the stone work. Heres an outside pic of the attached garage and a pic of the stone on out house for reference. 
Pod moved this morning. If you have never seen one of these loaded or unloaded the machine that moves it is amazing. Works almost like a travel lift for a boat. Guy moved my pod filled with all my shop tools and NOTHING MOVED AN INCH! Guy did an amazing job and now I have a clear area in front of the salon/garage and have a delivery spot for the stone which should arrive any minute. Got enough for both buildings to skirt the bottom of my house and to cover a block mailbox once I build it. So excited to see this project coming together. 
So can anybody school me on coatings for my garage floor? Been cruising the flooring section here but just not sure whats gonna give me the longest lasting protection for what I do. This is a working garage. I was a mechanic before I became an RN but I still get a lot of vehicles thru my shop. All kinds of jobs, from brakes to replacing engines, lots of lift kits and suspension work. So this floor is gonna see a lot of abuse. Im not totally sold on epoxy, and have been lookong more along the lines of a sealer. I keep seeing ballistix mentioned, but have seen some floors that turned out awful. And I guess its not actually a sealer as I have seen mentioned that you need to seal prior to applying the ballistix? So it all becomes just that much more complicated, but what I am most curious about is right now I have the ability to coat the whole slab without having to cut in edges and such since the building isnt in place yet. Is this a bad idea? I know I would need at least 48-72 hours of rain free weather and longer if possible. Seems like now would be the opportune time to coat before the building is done. Otherwise I can wait until building is up and get it done. Just trying to find something to keep me busy for the next 2 1/2 weeks while I wait for the building. Its been way too wet to grade along the new driveway so for now I have to wait on that. Hoping for good weather tomorrow for the stone masons, stone arrived earlier and is gonna look awesome on the garage.
GLTHFJ60
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Burnished and sealed is my preferred method for a working shop.
That was my original plan. Slab was power troweled and is pretty smooth except a couple small spots along the edges. Plan is to pressure wash and clean it good tomorrow get all the slurry out of thw saw cuts, and try to get it as clean as I can. As far as sealers go, my cousin used Eagle seal which it appears Home depot sells, but says its though its holding up well, brake fluid will mess it up. Stuff was also pretty cheap compared to ballistix or many of the other coatings I have been tryong to read up on.
I debated endlessly on flooring (and still am truthfully), but settled on ghostshield for densifier/penetrating sealant. Have polyurea in house garage which holds up great to liquids and looks great, but shop is going to have lots of hot sparks which I figured would do some damage. Downside is greatly reduced oil sealing. think "I have a couple hours to clean up before it stains" vs. open ended time.
Armorproxy seems to be a mixed bag and wasn't worth the hassle.
Armorproxy seems to be a mixed bag and wasn't worth the hassle.