Somebody send these guys a ratchet
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Junkdrawer Dog
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I watch lots of these kind of videos and these guys never use a ratchet! They will often have multiple sliding T handles with a different socket on each one, but never a ratchet. Think how they'd do with a cordless impact!
kaymccampbell
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Ratchets sure make the job easier. I rebuilt my first engine with just a BnOE set. It was what I could afford at the time.
dnschmidt
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There are lots of things about America that do ****. BUT THEY NEVER **** AS BAD AS THESE GUYS HAVE IT. Sort of makes you want to sing: "God Bless America" doesn't it?
Nah. Just makes me feel ashamed of myself.
Professional Tool User
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There was an African co-worker from one of my previous jobs who mentioned that back in his home country, they resort to using super long cheater bars on seized fasteners instead of using a torch because of the cost of acetylene. I guess priorities are different when cheap labour is a factor.
Miss the Pontiacs
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And here we are worrying about what kind of work pants we should wear. Much less gloves for our particular job we are working on. Wonder what they clean up their hands when done, I’m guessing gasoline.
KamiCrit
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They may not have your tools, but they're putting in the work.
We've moved on and it's about red rags turning purple now and whether that's intentional or not.
Man hours cost nothing where they live, but a ratchet is expensive. A good ratchet is expensive even in the western world, and a cheap one won't last that kind of abuse.
A simple sliding (or fixed) socket wrench requires no maintenance and is cheaper to make than the breaker bar with the pivoting end. A ratchet requires some maintenance and even then it won't withstand abuse like a fixed wrench no matter how well made it is.
BTW for high torque, you'll way more often see a sliding T handle over in Europe too. In the US, it seems ratchets are way more popular even for high torque, or the pivoting-end breaker bars.
A simple sliding (or fixed) socket wrench requires no maintenance and is cheaper to make than the breaker bar with the pivoting end. A ratchet requires some maintenance and even then it won't withstand abuse like a fixed wrench no matter how well made it is.
BTW for high torque, you'll way more often see a sliding T handle over in Europe too. In the US, it seems ratchets are way more popular even for high torque, or the pivoting-end breaker bars.
I saw a bus on the side of the road in Bangkok with a transmission out, and it looked like they were installing a new clutch with parts spread all over.
I thought that was something until I saw a team of guys doing an out-of-frame overhaul on the side of the road in Delhi. Canvas laid out under the truck with all the parts spread out perfectly....
I thought that was something until I saw a team of guys doing an out-of-frame overhaul on the side of the road in Delhi. Canvas laid out under the truck with all the parts spread out perfectly....
As I try to figure out what BnOE is.
kaymccampbell
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Really, puppy? Box n Open End. What are they teaching kids in schools these days.
Nobody abbreviates them like that. And I haven't made coffee yet.
kaymccampbell
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I do, and I'm not nobody, yet.
Long, long ago, I decided that I'm going my own way, world be damned, and if the rest of it can't catch up to me, then too bad for it. It's a process that's worked well for the last several decades. Once I'm gone, you can rule the world, in the meantime just try to keep up and things will be fine.
freudianfloyd
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To be honest, I thought you were referring to a dog bone wrench. Rebuilding an engine with just one of those would be really impressive.
kaymccampbell
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That was later.
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The purpose… the definition of language is a cooperative system of mutually intelligible symbols which can be used to convey meaning.
kaymccampbell
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That would've worked. Wrap the cords around the bolt heads n pull.I googled BnOE and only came up with Bang & Olufsen Earbuds.
Definitely would have been more impressive.
kaymccampbell
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You use these words, cooperative, mutually, and intelligible, like they mean something that I should care about. I'm just here for the lulz. And to annoy as many of the local residents of this ball of mud as possible.The purpose… the definition of language is a cooperative system of mutually intelligible symbols which can be used to convey meaning.
I asked my 74 year old mechanic father what BnOE would mean with respect to overhauling an engine.
He had no idea. Then he said you're never going to properly overhaul an engine with just box and open wrenches. I've never overhauled an engine but I did tear one apart. He reminded me of the need to torque down the head bolts to spec and it jogged my memory that there are bolts you can't even get to with a "BnOE."
He had no idea. Then he said you're never going to properly overhaul an engine with just box and open wrenches. I've never overhauled an engine but I did tear one apart. He reminded me of the need to torque down the head bolts to spec and it jogged my memory that there are bolts you can't even get to with a "BnOE."
Renegade1LI
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Come to NYC, I watch these street mechanics pull apart engines with wrenches and pliers. I'm impressed watching these guys do so much with so little. BTW, I've never seen them use a torque wrench. A guy in my crew had his brakes done last week by a guy in the street by our job, carried his tools on a garbage can lid, brakes work good charged 100$ plus parts.
Not sure how they'd get between some manifold ports with a wrench.
RTM
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At 16, I changed a drivers side motor mount on an old Chrysler ( I think) with just open end wrenches, cuz that’s all the boss had. Partial turn, flip wrench over, repeat many times.
Brought my tools in after that.
Brought my tools in after that.
kaymccampbell
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Yah, lulz, it's a thing. Dontcha keep up with current lingo? Don't worry, it's all copacetic, you'll catch on.The "lulz."
You're actually a 14 year old boy, aren't you?.
Nah. 7-8yo girl. Multiplied by 10. Guess i'm just one of those folks who's adaptable. I like to learn. Anything. I'm not frozen in the language and tastes of my early formative years. I consider all my years formative ones.
dnschmidt
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Ton ton
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Me too.Nah. Just makes me feel ashamed of myself.
Ton ton
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Even some decent ratcheting wrenches would speed this job up.
RTM
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The abuse my hands took over the two plus hours were not worth it. I only worked about 12 hours a week, fixed, so stringing out a job wasn't worth it.
joel63
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I really like the "breaker bar" that they use. Makes me think about the breaker bar / ratchet thread that I read yesterday.
Odd-job
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Thanks for sharing OP. I'm going to bookmark myself this video when it comes time to downsize my tool horde collection so I can get over my mental issue of needing more tools. Videos like this actually taught me how to stick weld better.
I also like their safety toe shoes.
I also like their safety toe shoes.
bigredcornhead
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Reading that first post, i had Sally Struthers in my head "For just one ratchet a day, you can make a huge impact on the lives of a village"
sparky 1971
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Back in the fall of 1989, my mom and dad (mom, dad was pissed) put an immigrant family of seven from Kazakhstan up in our house for about six months. I was in the garage working on my trucks exhaust and the dad, a coal mine engineer by trade came out to help. He had no idea what a ratchet was or how it worked.
We built some product for the Burj Khalifa. The specification called for UL 1 1/2-hour fire rating, so the contractor ordered our standard 3-hour product.
The "Consutant" on the job would not approve the three-hour product because it did not match the specification. That the rating far exceeded the specification made no difference.
The contractor was going to have to replace the entire so was begging us to send 1 1/2-hour UL stickers which we could not do.
Ultimately, we got a variance from UL that would allow us (not the contractor) to field install the new labels. I have to fly to Dubai to install the stickers.
I get to the jobsite and the scope is breathtaking. We get signed in, watch the thirty-minute safety video and then get all geared-up with hardhats, glasses, toe-caps & vests. Safety Officer approves us, and escorts us to the storage area in the basement. It was basically a blank-check project, and the basement was full of the finest product from around the World. Everything I saw was impressive.
We get to our stuff which is still crated. Our ****** (the Safety Officer) goes and gets a crew to uncrate the stuff and spread it out. Dude comes back with four or five poor souls wearing rags and Zorries. They have NO tools, and attempt to pull, push and kick the crates open without success. One of them wanders off and finds a stick, and then they take turns spotting and kicking the stick until they get the crates open. It takes all of two hours to open five or six crates, the whole time Safety Officer dude is hollering at the workers, but never actually touching anything.
It's a different world out there. I used to feel like kissing the ground every time I got off the plane in the US...