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Jim_No_Garage

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Your giving me flashbacks to the furnace replacement in house #1.

There was a proper "kill switch" at the top of the basement stairs that would shut off the original furnace. After the replacement job was wrapped up I hit the switch at the top of the stairs and the furnace kept running. ? :dunno:

I don't remember the exact details but the wire to the switch had been pulled back from the furnace and tucked into the floor joists overhead. I was able to figure out the setup and reconnect it properly. It's been 30 years so I don't remember if there was a switch right at the furnace.

This was done by a friends father who was a professional HVAC guy. I helped him out on one or two side jobs for him as a laborer and saw a few sketchy things on one of those jobs.

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It is not however, common to wire a furnace into a lighting circuit. Code is to have a discrete circuit for a furnace, with a switch on it for service.
if its code it must be boiler code as I haven't seen that in NEC??. I agree it should have its own dedicated circuit. The reason I put light over boiler is for when power is out and its being run on portable gennie.
 

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if its code it must be boiler code as I haven't seen that in NEC??. I agree it should have its own dedicated circuit. The reason I put light over boiler is for when power is out and its being run on portable gennie.
It might be NFPA, not sure where i read it. I put one on my boiler when i installed it. They sell Red light covers to mark it.
 

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I can’t wait to redo the wiring, going to start in the basement, then work out from there.
I can't wait for you to redo the wiring too, Lol.

Reminds of our old rental house, wiring and plumbing house of horrors. We re-did a ton of stuff in it, but I was always worried about what I couldn't see/find. Huge relief when we finally sold it.
 
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Yesterday didn’t go as planned, I was exhausted from the previous day and then lack of sleep that night. It took almost two hours of messing with the 5 ton dump to get it to start, all I can say is do not run it out of fuel and that the tank gauges are not accurate down low. We loaded up Perk with some random junk to bring to the Salvage Garage, while I unloaded things over at the SG my Buddy worked on the fuel lines for the track crane, it is now plumbed up and I no longer have to deal with the 5 gallon can and external fuel lines, tank is full and it is ready to go anytime. We then did a couple small things and looked over the sandblasting pots, one was completely dry and the other had just a little bit of damp media in the bottom/valve. I am going to clean that out today and let it dry up. I have to get Perk so I can load more stuff up at the Hill, I couldn’t bring Perk home last night, I was too tired and sore to fight with the transmission.
 
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I delivered a piece of angle iron to my Dad’s place, now I am at the Hill, just fed Chuck, trying to figure out what is next. I have so much stuff to do that is inside stuff, I hate to waste a part of a good day doing any off it, but it just keeps piling up. I will most likely do some shuffling at the Hill, then take another load to the SG, that way I can start pulling out the pallet racking I bought a couple years back, it needs to go up this year, I have too much stuff spread out everywhere over at the SG.
 
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Motivation has once again left the building, I am feeling the tower climb in multiple ways now, one is every muscle in my body, two is that I bashed my knee and it is now sore. I am calling it my sympathy knee, it is the same one my GF had surgery on. ;)

I am currently working on a three prong attack to get something done, icing the knee for the swelling, some tylenol and advil for both the knee and the muscles, then a blue sour patch kid Ghost energy drink to try and revive some motivation. I do not think I am going to end up back at the SG today, I need to go to surprise party tonight and then Chuck needs to be fed, so that essentially destroys all hope of progress. I am going to do some things around the Hill, I need to be ready for tomorrow, guess there is some rain coming in for the first part of the week. We need the rain and I need some time inside without feeling guilty about the weather.
 
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I am also going to buy bulk bags (yes, just like Dad's cement bags) and fill them with the blast media, I think it will be the best option long term and it will allow me to store them safely for longer. Will be talking with the rep about them next week, then I will have to build a hopper to allow an easy way to load and reload the bags when I need to use the media.
 
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Figuring things out, got some small stuff done, I have to load and then shuffle some trailers. Not sure if I have enough ratchet straps to tie everything down, I needed to rework the ones I used the other day, the ratchet portions are so wimpy you can’t tighten them down much better than a bungee cord before the sides of the handles start to bend, the rest of the setup is fine, just the ratchets ****. I also need to add a few more tools to my tie down arsenal, some of my chain binders need to be modified and the 1/2” grade 100 chains need different hooks, the current ones will not go through my tie down rings :(

I hope I can regroup for tomorrow, lots to be done, every where I look I see more that needs attention, never ending. At least I have put a dent in things the last few weeks, if I can build that pallet rack, it will make short work of almost all the loose stuff over at the Salvage Garage, the Hill is a bit different, I need to park some equipment in different areas, clear some trees and rework a couple areas so I have more room for snow. I will be working on that right up until it snows, probably even after it snows.
 
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I didn’t have the proper size quick-fist grips for my broom, been using a PITA pair of bungee cords to hold it to the door for the chains, makes things difficult but the broom is with me when I need to sweep off the trailer deck.

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I was measuring some stuff on OMO (big fire truck) and inside were two of the proper size quick-fist clamps! I used those and now I have the broom with the trailer but it is out of the way.

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This will save me five to ten minutes every time I need to open the bin or sweep the deck off, seriously worth the effort to mount it.
 

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That Quick Fist broom thing looks like it was time well spent. Is there something already out there you can use as a hopper, instead of having to build one? With as much as you have on your plate, buying would seem like it would be more efficient way to go. I would think you could pick something up for less than $500 (some kind of feed/grain hopper), but even at $1000 it seems like it would be better than you building it.
 
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I will have to look around, but I think it may be a custom job. I would like it to allow the sandblast pot to be wheeled under it, I am not sure how much control the closure of the bottom spout will offer on the bag, it may be fine, or it may end up dumping a few thousand pounds of media everywhere. If I make a hopper, I can use a large valve to control the flow of media, basically you would dump an entire bag (probably 3000 pounds) into the hopper, then use what you need (pot holds 600), then if it is going to be a while, you can dump the media back into the bag for longer term storage.
 

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I will have to look around, but I think it may be a custom job. I would like it to allow the sandblast pot to be wheeled under it, I am not sure how much control the closure of the bottom spout will offer on the bag, it may be fine, or it may end up dumping a few thousand pounds of media everywhere. If I make a hopper, I can use a large valve to control the flow of media, basically you would dump an entire bag (probably 3000 pounds) into the hopper, then use what you need (pot holds 600), then if it is going to be a while, you can dump the media back into the bag for longer term storage.
Maybe an IBC tote? I saw one hung by chains from a forklift, with the bottle flipped upside down, a valve put on what was once the fill, and the top, nee bottom, cut out of it, to dispense some kind of granular substance.
 
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That would probably work fairly well, but you would never get all the media out, so changing grits would be a chore. I know of another guy that uses the hopper from a smaller hitch mounted sidewalk sander, but I think that will be too small as well. Once I have a bag, I will do some experiments, it may be that closing off the bottom is easier than I think. I know when we used these bags way back when for our cement, sand, and stone to mix concrete with the volumetric truck you could close them off without a huge issue, but those materials almost always needed to be persuaded to empty the bag. The black beauty will flow like water if it is dry and will most likely be tough to stop once it starts flowing, they only give you a string to tie up the bottom discharge spout.
 
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This may work, not too expensive either.

 
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I ordered both styles of those bag valves, seems like they would be useful for other things as well, now I need to order the bags, that has to wait until Monday.

I am headed to the Hill, I started thinking about things and the plan for today is to take the cat forklift over to the Salvage Garage, then I will bring Clark back to the Hill. This is going to be a back and forth type of deal, at least until I get the stuff up into the office. After that I can use the “elevator” forklift in the Quonset hut. Clark will end up at the Hill more permanently once I have a loader going at the SG, that is a nice flat area, so it will be perfect for a loader, I already know Clark does a good job on the Hill, I just have to do some more work to it this winter.
 
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I wanted to load one of the pole trailers, it just reminded me why I need two rough terrain forklifts, almost got stuck, the V80 will probably handle 75% of the area needed over at the SG, but it doesn’t even handle 25% of the Hill. It is making me think I need to get Benson (big orange forklift) working. I know, I know, too many projects, too many irons in the fire. I still think I am moving forward, even with the back steps, my overall goals are still there and I am slowly checking off the boxes.

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Need to shuffle the tool boxes around, but they are almost ready to be strapped down, then I can head out to the SG and try and get a few more things done over there.
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The upper area is starting to shape up, still need to take a scrap run, then I have to deal with some waste oil stuff, overall it is getting better every week. Chuck says hi to everyone.

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Looks like the rain is going to hit earlier than I expected, that isn’t great, I may have to do a bit of regrouping though. I need to get the air compressor inside, and I would like to get one of the propane heaters inside as well. I don’t think I am going to be able to touch the pallet rack today. :(
 
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I beat the rain, then the rain didn't really materialize, but I got most everything I wanted to do done. Also succeeded in breaking the exhaust off Clark, not the muffler, but the cast iron manifold. I guess it is time to do some repairs. :(

Then on the way home the Blurb had throttle issues again, I need to see what codes it is throwing, might be there is a relearn procedure I didn't follow when I replaced the throttle the other day, or it could be another issue. I kind of need to figure that out, otherwise I don't have a vehicle to drive.
 
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He eats smoothies and solid foods, not much for greens, but he eats nuts and freeze dried fruits (he seems to like crunchy stuff not fresh fruit). I am fine with the smoothie for the time being, I think once I build an outdoor enclosure I will be able to get him to eat fresh stuff that will be growing in the cage. At this point I know he is getting enough fluids and nutrients from the smoothie.
 
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I can run it as is, could probably glue it back together, but I am going to get a new manifold. Also need to rebuild the carb. I will finish what I need to do with it being loud, it will probably take a little while to set the manifold anyways.
 
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It looks like new manifolds are available, need to confirm what engine it is, they range in price from about $150 to $300, I can live with that. I figure the carb and exhaust rebuild will be under a grand, I am actually shooting for a new carb, time is money right now. I figure I will probably do a few other things at the same time, Clark needs the hydraulic oil changed, along with engine oil, then the gauges never got installed, we will see what happens, all about timing.
 
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Man, in the last month I have spent over $5000 on heating oil, gasoline, and diesel fuel, yikes! Luckily it shouldn’t be that bad again, next time I need to stapler things better, it smarts when you actually see bills that add up like that, worst part is that I didn’t make a dime using any of it and Perk is about empty. :(

I sure hope the waste oil furnace will work, that will save some money at the SG, I have plenty of used oil to get me through the winter and there is also a full tank of heating oil at each location, so I have a backup if needed. I may go scrounging my diesel fuel tanks, they all need to be emptied anyways and there are several trucks that have something in the tanks, the waste oil furnace should be able to handle it.
 

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Man, in the last month I have spent over $5000 on heating oil, gasoline, and diesel fuel, yikes! Luckily it shouldn’t be that bad again, next time I need to stapler things better, it smarts when you actually see bills that add up like that, worst part is that I didn’t make a dime using any of it and Perk is about empty. :(

I sure hope the waste oil furnace will work, that will save some money at the SG, I have plenty of used oil to get me through the winter and there is also a full tank of heating oil at each location, so I have a backup if needed. I may go scrounging my diesel fuel tanks, they all need to be emptied anyways and there are several trucks that have something in the tanks, the waste oil furnace should be able to handle it.
Fuel prices will put a damper on things up here if 6 dollar a gallon diesel prices continue. Thankfully its been warm so far and looks to continue that way for another week or 2.
 
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Currently at my DOT physical, so far everything is normal, once I talk to the PA, we will see if he is going to issue another 3 month card or a 12 month. Fingers crossed I can get a 12, it is $200 a whack on these things.
 
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I am happy to not have to shell out an extra $400 over the next year, the $400 I already spent was too much as far as I am concerned.

I hooked up the Blurb to the scan tool, codes indicate issue with throttle, except I changed the throttle, guess the other one could be bad too, but I haven't had these go bad very often. I just figured the one in the Blurb was dying because it has 360k miles worth of foot action. I have a new one somewhere, got to find it, otherwise a new one (quality one) is $350. Seems like there is always something, that is for sure.
 
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Tomorrow I have the electrician helper for the entire day, going to try and get as much of the hard stuff done as I can up at the Hill, I am trying to install a sub panel that will become the permanent replacement panel in the not so distant future. Also need to finish up the routing of the cable line to the office and get internet up there, that is one of the reasons I haven’t started to really transition up there, without internet it isn’t worth it.
 
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So far it has been good, the wiring was and still is a mess, we now have a “temporary” sub panel running a few of the important circuits, still need to hook up some more things, but I am limited by wire size to 60 amps right now. It is clear that the old wiring just has to be torn out completely, it is open air spliced and wires change sizes and styles mid stream. Should at least be a bit more straight forward to deal with working off the new panel. Once I get the water system in and the main plumbing done, then I can concentrate on wiring again.
 
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