Armstrong Catalog Update

Fedwrench · Jul 11, 2010

There's a new Armstrong catalog available for download at Armstrongtools.com There seems to be more pliers, tool storage, blue-black versions of the Craftsman Pro screwdrivers, and Armstrong appears to have absorbed the 36 tooth, pear shaped quick release ratchets with knurled handle from the K-D line. Unfortunately, the round head fine tooth quick release version didn't make the move from KD to Armstrong line. There's probably more KD items that moved. There's also an offer for a free t-shirt if you sign up for their newsletter. :beer:

beelsr · Jul 11, 2010

where's that darn rep button when you need it!
:beer:

bchee · Jul 12, 2010

my connection is too slow to get 33MB

tonydanzah · Jul 12, 2010

i Don't see a tshirt offer?

Merkava_4 · Jul 12, 2010

Nasty!!

beelsr · Jul 12, 2010

It's on the homepage, bottom left of the graphic

or just go to: http://armstrongtools.com/Newslettersubscriptionrequest.aspx

tonydanzah said:
i Don't see a tshirt offer?

Merkava_4 · Jul 12, 2010

That chemical etching is fugly.

tonydanzah · Jul 12, 2010

beelsr said:
It's on the homepage, bottom left of the graphic

or just go to: http://armstrongtools.com/Newslettersubscriptionrequest.aspx

I signed up for the news letter but it doesn't ask for a size, unless its in my email

Fedwrench · Jul 12, 2010

tonydanzah said:
I signed up for the news letter but it doesn't ask for a size, unless its in my email

I think it may be one of those one size fits most offers where they're only offering one size. :headscrat

Merkava, yes those Armstrong sockets aren't very pretty and except for being offered in a few more sizes under the Armstrong name, they're the same as Craftsman. Yes, they even have your favorite double staked retention notches in the female square drive end.

stroh · Jul 12, 2010

Fedwrench. Are you saying they are just rebadged craftsman or vise versa? I Thought the Armstrongs would be better than craftsman> :headscrat

loj · Jul 12, 2010

stroh said:
Fedwrench. Are you saying they are just rebadged craftsman or vise versa? I Thought the Armstrongs would be better than craftsman>

They do look an awful lot like the Sears socket:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00945867000P?prdNo=10&blockNo=10&blockType=

The radius on the edge may be a little different.

It looks like they used the same etching process, but it was performed by a drunken ape on the Armstrong socket.

They appear to at least be from the same OEM, which is Danaher.

forceyoda · Jul 12, 2010

stroh said:
Fedwrench. Are you saying they are just rebadged craftsman or vise versa? I Thought the Armstrongs would be better than craftsman>

Try to see it from the glass half full side- Craftsman Sockets are better than you thought :lol_hitti

stroh · Jul 12, 2010

Went to the website to sign up for the newsletter and Wisconsin is not on the drop menu for placing your address :wtf:

. Going to contact them later to let them know. Noticed also at the bottom of the page it is Apex tool group not Danaher. Merkava 4 should enjoy that :bounce:

beelsr · Jul 12, 2010

They offer some 1/4" sockets that aren't in the Cman line... 1/8" 6pt (shallow & deep) and 15mm in both 6 (shallow & deep) & 12pt (shallow only).

The "I need to fill every peg in my Hanson" guys will appreciate that... :bounce:

Fedwrench said:
Merkava, yes those Armstrong sockets aren't very pretty and except for being offered in a few more sizes under the Armstrong name, they're the same as Craftsman. Yes, they even have your favorite double staked retention notches in the female square drive end.

Teken · Jul 12, 2010

beelsr said:
They offer some 1/4" sockets that aren't in the Cman line... 1/8" 6pt (shallow & deep) and 15mm in both 6 (shallow & deep) & 12pt (shallow only).

The "I need to fill every peg in my Hanson" guys will appreciate that...

beelsr · Jul 12, 2010

i was hoping you'd see it... :beer:

Mr.Nutcase · Jul 12, 2010

Fedwrench said:
There's a new Armstrong catalog available for download at Armstrongtools.com There seems to be more pliers, tool storage, blue-black versions of the Craftsman Pro screwdrivers, and Armstrong appears to have absorbed the 36 tooth, pear shaped quick release ratchets with knurled handle from the K-D line. Unfortunately, the round head fine tooth quick release version didn't make the move from KD to Armstrong line. There's probably more KD items that moved. There's also an offer for a free t-shirt if you sign up for their newsletter.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0012WN8L8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Fedwrench · Jul 12, 2010

stroh said:
Fedwrench. Are you saying they are just rebadged craftsman or vise versa? I Thought the Armstrongs would be better than craftsman>

I'm saying they're the same sockets regardless of which name is stamped on it. The size, fit, finish, and weight is the same. There is a difference in finish quality between individual sets of Craftsman sockets and the ones you get in those huge sets. Visit a sears and look at the sets of sockets hanging on the racks or the individual sockets especially the newer Dual Marked sockets. Most of the individual sockets and the racks of sets aren't finished too bad. Compare those to the large piece sets and half price combo sets of sae and metric sockets and there is a difference in finish quality.
I would have thought that the Armstrong sockets would have been more like the Matco sockets but, they're not. The Craftsman and Armstrong chrome sockets are the same right down to Merkava's favorite double stake retention in the square drive. I don't know why Armstrong makes a 3/8 drive 26mm socket but, skips 24mm? :headscrat

Fedwrench · Jul 12, 2010

Mr.Nutcase said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0012WN8L8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I was referring to the flex head version (which I like still to this day), not the fixed version. Sorry, I should have made it more clear.

bchee · Jul 13, 2010

Fedwrench said:
they even have your favorite double staked retention notches in the female square drive end.

Just curious what you guys REALLY think that feature is for?

They claim it holds the socket on better, but deep-down I think it's for something else. Maybe a way they started marking their defective sockets or something.

Fedwrench · Jul 13, 2010

bchee said:
Just curious what you guys REALLY think that feature is for?

I personally think it lowers the cost of manufacturing the socket. I don't think it improves anything other than profit but, that's just me.

bchee · Jul 13, 2010

That makes sense too. I wouldn't argue with that.

beelsr · Jul 13, 2010

you could always read the patent application and see what claims are made.

Merkava_4 · Jul 13, 2010

Fedwrench said:
I personally think it lowers the cost of manufacturing the socket. I don't think it improves anything other than profit but, that's just me.

That's the first thing I thought when I first saw it; that and my second thought of "you cheap bastards."

bchee · Jul 13, 2010

beelsr said:
you could always read the patent application and see what claims are made.

how do you do that?

Merkava_4 · Jul 13, 2010

bchee said:
how do you do that?

It'll show up on a Goggle search if you know the exact name of what Craftsman calls it. :dunno:

bchee · Jul 13, 2010

I remember posting the ad picture from a Sears catalog. I'm looking for it.
I didn't realize there was a whole thread about it
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21527

beelsr · Jul 13, 2010

the link is in another post around here somewhere...

bchee said:
how do you do that?

Merkava_4 · Jul 13, 2010

bchee said:
I remember posting the ad picture from a Sears catalog. I'm looking for it.
I didn't realize there was a whole thread about it
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21527

Thanks for the search bchee, I just went and bumped the thread. :spit:

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