Height vs length of shop?

[NES]

In the near future I would like to build a shop. Both the shops would be 60' wide. With the roof pitch going along the width of garage. Which would be a 4/12 roof pitch. I also want to build a one story house with a steep roof pitches. That way the shop wouldn't be taller than the house.

I was thinking for depth going 42' deep with 16' ceiling. Or 48' deep with a 12' ceiling. Which would you go with?

 

[sonoronos]

IMHO extra square footage is way more valuable than extra ceiling height. 6' deeper means an extra 360 square feet.

 

[NUTTSGT]

It's usually cheaper to go up than go out.

What's the plan for the building ?

12' side wall will probably get you no more than a 10' tradition overhead door.

The 16' should get a 14' O/H door.

 

[NES]

It's usually cheaper to go up than go out.

What's the plan for the building ?

12' side wall will probably get you no more than a 10' tradition overhead door.

The 16' should get a 14' O/H door.

To store a boat in the one garage door which would be 19-23- long. The other garage door to put a vehicle in that I can work on. To have a two post lift in that stall. Both garage doors would be 14' wide. The spare space on the side would be a utility room, shop sink, bathroom with shower, office and living room. They would be 9' from the garage door. I could also have room along the back wall of garage for tools and equipment. The other thing would be to have a 1950s John Deere farm tractor.

 

[Snip]

Maybe split the difference and do the 48 but with 14' ( I'm at 40x66x14) ceiling. Cost to go 2' taller would be minimal and you would be keeping the larger footprint. You will run out of square foot room before you run out of cubic feet. 14' still gives you decent headroom for a rolling gantry, ceiling fans along with a overhead tube heater. I had thought about 16' height but didn't want shop to be taller than the house. For me a 14' tall door was not a must have, actually just the opposite as I made a living for many as a Kenworth mechanic and only having a 12' door would mean that nothing that size would ever cast a shadow inside my shop,lol. The one downside to consider when not going a full 16' would be it does limit your mezzanine height if you ever decide to have one.

 

[iagsxr]

If you have a 14' tall overhead door anything that can go down the road can go in your shop. My shop has 14' sidewalls and 12' door. I haven't ran into anything I couldn't get inside yet but have bumped ceiling fans with forklift mast.

Have 8' tall pallet racking on the back wall. I can't stand up on the top shelf and have to be very careful putting things up there the forklift to not hit the ceiling.

If I were going to do it over today I'd do 16' walls, 14' door and build a mezzanine in place of the pallet racking.

 

[jack stand]

Just a word of caution since you mentioned a concern about appearance (height)
It's going to be difficult to make a 46'-48' x 60' building not dwarf a single floor house regardless of the overall height difference or the shop wall height. 100+ feet of separation will help more than anything.
I'm not trying to discourage you, your building it for the guy paying for it (YOU), but if the Mrs. is behind these height concerns......
Just speaking from building experience, no matter what you do, that's a big building compared to any single floor house nearby.

 

[nadogail]

IMHO, a garage should be long enough and high enough to accommodate your intended use; that is why you need to define your intended use before starting design and construction.

Let logic not dreams drive your project.

Boats don’t belong in garages, maybe ok in a Boathouse

 

[NES]

Thank you for the responses. I'll go with a 48' deep garage with 14' ceiling. Still have the garage be 60' wide. With two 12' tall by 14' garage doors. With having a 14' ceiling it would allow me to lift a truck all the way up on a two post lift. Plus there would be more space between the bow of the boat and ceiling. I could still build a one story houses with 12/12 roof pitches. The shop would still not be as tall as the house itself.

 

[kwb]

Boats don’t belong in garages, maybe ok in a Boathouse

Obviously not a boat owner.

Funny thing about boats - they are usually pretty good about keeping the water under them out. Most every recreational boat I have been around is pretty bad about shedding off the water that falls from above out. Keeping them out of the weather is the second best thing you can do for a boat. Best thing is to use it.

 

[Jakemedic]

My Amish builder told me to use even dimensions 48 x 60 is good but 42 isn’t. His thoughts were minimal waste I believe. Mine is post frame though.

 

[NES]

Obviously not a boat owner.

Funny thing about boats - they are usually pretty good about keeping the water under them out. Most every recreational boat I have been around is pretty bad about shedding off the water that falls from above out. Keeping them out of the weather is the second best thing you can do for a boat. Best thing is to use it.

Nothing is worser than leaving a boat outside with no cover on. The stringers and transom will rot out. The seats and gauges will look horrible. I'm also very caring about boats. If boat is not being used have the cockpit cover on. Along with the full cover. When towing the boat have the cockpit cover on.

 

[ez-duzit]

Nothing is worser than leaving a boat outside with no cover on. The stringers and transom will rot out. The seats and gauges will look horrible. I'm also very caring about boats. If boat is not being used have the cockpit cover on. Along with the full cover. When towing the boat have the cockpit cover on.

A carport takes care of most of the problem.

 

[dcg9381]

IMHO extra square footage is way more valuable than extra ceiling height. 6' deeper means an extra 360 square feet.

I totally agree, but a bigger footprint costs a lot more than going up. 16' eve can get you a lot of "up" space, even if you use part of the building...

But I understand that you don't want the shop look to overpower the house.