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[jar944]

As I said above
"A thin Kerf bade can be used for plunge cutting on a table saw.
(cabinet ventilation holes)"

https://www.finewoodworking.com/2008/12/01/qa-can-a-miter-saw-blade-be-used-on-a-tablesaw#:~:text=Yes, you can.,hook angle on their teeth.

Nothing against FWW but that answer is a "it will fit" but... negative hook blades are not great on a ts. The increase in effort to push wood through a miter saw blade moved on a table saw us just not worth the minor savings. Same issues (bit more dramatic) running a high hook ts blade on a miter saw. Even on a chop saw the tendency to grab is exponentially higher.

They fit is not a great reason. You can also use a full kerf table saw blade to plunge cut vent holes. Imho thin kerf blades are a solution to a problem that doesn't exist and are the cause of their own issues. The proper full kerf blades on table saws and or miter saws are more resistant to deflection and produce inherently better cuts even on marginally powered saws.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

Thanks everyone. I ordered a DSW715 on Amazon tonight for $199. Unfortunately it won’t be here until the 22nd. I’ve seen mixed reviews of HD and Lowes matching it, will try tomorrow to see if I can get it faster.

I went to Lowe’s to get the 7.25 slider for a few reasons, sale had expired so I went online. Stumbled on the DW and followed your advice.

I will say that the fit and finish is far better than the other entry and mid brands from my experience playing with them in the stores. I am crying, hopefully only once.

My only complaint is that it doesn’t have a laser.

 

[Crabman]

I have the older model of that saw and it has served me well for many years.

I hope you will be happy with it, congrats!

Bruce

 

[Uncle murph]

I agree with everyone suggesting the Dewalt 12in non slider. The saw is super accurate and you can see your blade and the material very well. Also when buying a blade don't cheap out makes a huge difference in saw performance

This,a **** blade will affect the quality of your work and its not just the number of teeth or how sharp it is.Buy a quality blade!

 

[Stuart in MN]

Depending on how much you'll use it, an old fashioned manual miter saw could be an alternative. They work well (just require a little elbow power), cost less and can be found used - I've seen them at the local Habitat for Humanity ReStore.

 

[dave*99]

Thanks everyone. I ordered a DSW715 on Amazon tonight for $199. Unfortunately it won’t be here until the 22nd. I’ve seen mixed reviews of HD and Lowes matching it, will try tomorrow to see if I can get it faster.

I went to Lowe’s to get the 7.25 slider for a few reasons, sale had expired so I went online. Stumbled on the DW and followed your advice.

I will say that the fit and finish is far better than the other entry and mid brands from my experience playing with them in the stores. I am crying, hopefully only once.

My only complaint is that it doesn’t have a laser.

Good choice, next we will bombard you with suggestions for blades to put in your new saw.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

Both Lowes and HD were willing to price match, and Lowes has it in stock. I hope to pick it up today. What a ride! Went from $40, to $110, to $100, to $200. I can always count on @loganb and the rest of GJ to spend my money on a new hobby! Maybe don't suggest blades until the sting of this one wears off!

As an aside, Amazon now has it direct (changed over night, surprising) and it would ship by Saturday instead of 19th - 22nd.

 

[loganb]

I look forward to helping suggest other expensive ways to fill your garage up....

He has lots of space in case anyone needs help on what to suggest next....he has a 3 car garage and has the audicity to think all 3 cars should sleep in it each night! We must fill at least 1 of the stalls with tools and other items that collect dust and contribute to flat surface disease!

 

[mrpizza]

I ended up with the HF Hercules saw the other day. Inside track dropped it to $319. Hopefully the last saw I ever buy. I upgraded from an OLD craftsman 10" non slider with a taped up power cord and the motor so weak it bogs down in a 2x4 with a brand new blade. (diablo)

 

[niget2002]

I have an older Rigid brand 12" non sliding from when they were being clearance out. I love the thing. I run Diablo blades on mine.

 

[jar944]

Maybe don't suggest blades until the sting of this one wears off!

Since you had at least 20 minutes to let the sting go away..

I like tenryu full kerf blades.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I was going to comment yesterday but got busy at work. IMHO, a miter saw is something you get what you pay for, buy once, cry once.

Congrats on the new purchase.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

Since you had at least 20 minutes to let the sting go away..

I like tenryu full kerf blades.

Jar, two questions:

1) Is your screen name by chance related to the Porsche 944?
2)are you related to @loganb ? I have yet to meet anyone else who virtually spends so much of another persons money. Certainly you must have the same DNA to have such a horrible talent!

 

[Greenlawnracing]

I was going to comment yesterday but got busy at work. IMHO, a miter saw is something you get what you pay for, buy once, cry once.

Congrats on the new purchase.

I'm no stranger to that, especially on things I use a lot such as my bicycles.

It is tougher on something I'm new to and don't know how deep I'll get into. So the entry tiers like Ryobi and Ridgid have served me well so far. But give that I got two Ryobis that were toss off of a cliff, it was time to stop crying and get one good bawl out so that I can make a lopsided $4 candy dispenser for my little girl that I could buy at Hobby Lobby for $.99.

 

[loganb]

2)are you related to @loganb ? I have yet to meet anyone else who virtually spends so much of another persons money. Certainly you must have the same DNA to have such a horrible talent!

His woodworking skills on this board are of the level that songs should be written and sung in honor of....I'm not yet worth of cleaning up the immense sawdust piles he generates

And give yourself more credit....with your taste for expensive bicycles I'm sure you've helped convince more than 1 someone to spend additional money on hobbies...we're just returning the favor

 

[jar944]

Jar, two questions:

1) Is your screen name by chance related to the Porsche 944?
2)are you related to @loganb ? I have yet to meet anyone else who virtually spends so much of another persons money. Certainly you must have the same DNA to have such a horrible talent!

Lol

No, not related to the 944 Porsche. Though I've always wanted one.

No relation that im aware of..lol I'd venture to guess 75% of the members here enjoy suggesting tools that may or may not be in line with the parameters of the original request. I'm actually surprised no one suggested a festool kapex or a omga t50 350 miter saw...

 

[alinc100]

Since you had at least 20 minutes to let the sting go away..

I like tenryu full kerf blades.

Tenyru makes very good blades. I cut/miter 1-1/4" x 1-1/4"x1/8" anodized aluminum angle daily and the Tenryu blade for aluminum has been the most durable ,most consistent blade on our 12" Dewalt chop saws. And they really don't cost much more than SOME of the more available Big Box blades.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

And give yourself more credit....with your taste for expensive bicycles I'm sure you've helped convince more than 1 someone to spend additional money on hobbies...we're just returning the favor

Then to quote you:

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[NUTTSGT]

I'm no stranger to that, especially on things I use a lot such as my bicycles.

It is tougher on something I'm new to and don't know how deep I'll get into. So the entry tiers like Ryobi and Ridgid have served me well so far. But give that I got two Ryobis that were toss off of a cliff, it was time to stop crying and get one good bawl out so that I can make a lopsided $4 candy dispenser for my little girl that I could buy at Hobby Lobby for $.99.

The smile on her face will make it worth it.

Priceless.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

Lol

No, not related to the 944 Porsche. Though I've always wanted one.

No relation that im aware of..lol I'd venture to guess 75% of the members here enjoy suggesting tools that may or may not be in line with the parameters of the original request. I'm actually surprised no one suggested a festool kapex or a omga t50 350 miter saw...

No you don't - I had one for five years or so. If you love honing your mechanical skills and spending your retirement on unobtainable parts...well then yes.... you want one. It was fun I suppose, but my neighbor was a Porsche mechanic. Once I moved, I sold it as I didn't have that resource. One day when I have more time and money on my hands perhaps I'll buy another!

Spot on......75% of the convo gets derailed. But, I suppose I did end up with a good recommendation.

Now I did go into this thinking that I'd get something like "yep, that's the best one for the money pull the trigger", or "for the same price I really loved _________". Not "Honda Accord or Toyota Camry"......with a "Telsa Plaid or stay on the porch" response!

Thanks again!

 

[67carl]

That would be an excellent choice for woodworking.

We have a lot of these on Craigslist locally, you do also, here is a search for "saw".

oklahoma city tools for sale "saw" - craigslist

oklahoma city tools for sale "saw" - craigslist

oklahomacity.craigslist.org

A lot of these only get a little use and you can save some money and get a nicer unit.

I have a Dewalt 12" which is great, but takes up some space.

Here is a nice used one:

oklahoma city tools - by owner - craigslist

oklahoma city tools - by owner - craigslist

oklahomacity.craigslist.org

Will cost some time.

Good luck finding the right fit.

I haven't read through all the responses yet, but when I saw this ad for the Dewalt 12 inch compound miter saw I had to comment. I recently bought the Dewalt 12 inch dual bevel compound miter saw, and it has been fantastic (replaced an old Ryobi 10'). If that saw is still for sale, snap it up!

 

[Greenlawnracing]

I haven't read through all the responses yet, but when I saw this ad for the Dewalt 12 inch compound miter saw I had to comment. I recently bought the Dewalt 12 inch dual bevel compound miter saw, and it has been fantastic (replaced an old Ryobi 10'). If that saw is still for sale, snap it up!

Bought the exact same saw brand new for $25 more today. Glad to hear that everyone loves it!

 

[67carl]

Bought the exact same saw brand new for $25 more today. Glad to hear that everyone loves it!

Guess you could say I'm on the DeWalt bandwagon!

 

[Greenlawnracing]

Guess you could say I'm on the DeWalt bandwagon!

I started making this for my little girl tonight, and am quickly becoming a fan as well!!

https://www.fouroakscrafts.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Candy-Dispenser-Plans.pdf

 

[loganb]

I'm actually surprised no one suggested a festool kapex or a omga t50 350 miter saw...

I almost suggested the green koolaid just to get a rise out of him....but I held back

I did text @Greenlawnracing this picture today as a jobsite visit had me in front of a "real" hardware store that I hadn't been in yet but wanted to stop by



Pretty sure first time I'd seen Tenryu in a store, but it is a professional/trade targeted store instead of a homeowner type one so makes a bit more sense but nice to know have some local options for better blades

 

[Greenlawnracing]

I almost suggested the green koolaid just to get a rise out of him....but I held back

I did text @Greenlawnracing this picture today as a jobsite visit had me in front of a "real" hardware store that I hadn't been in yet but wanted to stop by



Pretty sure first time I'd seen Tenryu in a store, but it is a professional/trade targeted store instead of a homeowner type one so makes a bit more sense but nice to know have some local options for better blades

So, @jar944 and I have a fundamental question for you:

Are they in your cart yet?

 

[dfiler2]

I think you made a good choice, you mentioned it doesn't have a laser line, IMO that's a good thing. You can get a shadow line kit that's made for that saw, best thing ever.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

I think you made a good choice, you mentioned it doesn't have a laser line, IMO that's a good thing. You can get a shadow line kit that's made for that saw, best thing ever.

This?

Dewalt® DWS779 XPS Work Light Upgrade Kit

#html-body [data-pb-style=UOIMC19]{justify-content:flex-start;display:flex;flex-direction:column;background-position:left top;background-size:cover;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-attachment:scroll}<p>The XPS work light cut-line technology for the Dewalt DWS779 miter saw is vastly...

www.mmtoolparts.com

 

[dfiler2]

Yes, that's it, it really was a game changer for me. I read about them here and tried one and love it.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

Welp, I'm halfway into my bench tonight! One thing I struggled with is consistent bevels, and @loganb reminded me that I should be using stop blocks.

My "workshop" all lives in the cubby in my garage, set up and break down every night after a few hours of work so I can get the truck back in the garage. My bench is just a Worx Pegasus 051. The saw sits on there during use, although when I chopped an eight footer I found it easier to do on the floor.

Googling stop blocks gives me tons of options. Reading this article, it seems like bolting a 1X4 and clamp is a good solution. I also see some aftermarket ideas. What do you recommend?

I do think a miter saw stand I can fold up is in my future

 

[Greenlawnracing]

Yes, that's it, it really was a game changer for me. I read about them here and tried one and love it.

Is it just for light, or does it indicate where it is about to cut?

 

[dave*99]

Is it just for light, or does it indicate where it is about to cut?

Is casts a shadow of the blade’s teeth on the workpiece. So you see where it will cut.

 

[mwalsh9152]

if you dont need the slider, stay away, you can get more for your money. I have a 10" Craftsman dual bevel that I use in my business, and it has been used A LOT. No complaints other than that its loud, and the 10" cant cut a 5.5" board at 45 degrees.

I bought a 12" single bevel Dewalt, and I have zero complaints about it. Does everything I need of it, and you can buy it for $199 currently.

 

[beemerphile]

I used this Bauer from HF to do all of the trim in my current house build. No regrets. The shadow line cutting guide works much better than any LED cut line I have used. The stand is very good as well.

 

[67carl]

Welp, I'm halfway into my bench tonight! One thing I struggled with is consistent bevels, and @loganb reminded me that I should be using stop blocks.

My "workshop" all lives in the cubby in my garage, set up and break down every night after a few hours of work so I can get the truck back in the garage. My bench is just a Worx Pegasus 051. The saw sits on there during use, although when I chopped an eight footer I found it easier to do on the floor.

Googling stop blocks gives me tons of options. Reading this article, it seems like bolting a 1X4 and clamp is a good solution. I also see some aftermarket ideas. What do you recommend?

I do think a miter saw stand I can fold up is in my future

I put mine on a folding and rolling stand as I, like you, have to break everything down after I use it. It's nice to prop it up against a wall and when I need it, roll it into position, stand it up and it's good to go.

Miter Saw Stands - Harbor Freight Tools

Harbor Freight buys their top quality tools from the same factories that supply our competitors. We cut out the middleman and pass the savings to you!

www.harborfreight.com

I got this one but it's on clearance so it is going awsy. It's beefy, sturdy and heavy. There's a picture on post #63. Looks like there's a new one, but I don't know anything about it.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

I put mine on a folding and rolling stand as I, like you, have to break everything down after I use it. It's nice to prop it up against a wall and when I need it, roll it into position, stand it up and it's good to go.

Miter Saw Stands - Harbor Freight Tools

Harbor Freight buys their top quality tools from the same factories that supply our competitors. We cut out the middleman and pass the savings to you!

www.harborfreight.com

I got this one but it's on clearance so it is going awsy. It's beefy, sturdy and heavy. There's a picture on post #63. Looks like there's a new one, but I don't know anything about it.

Got any pics of your compact set up?

 

[Nutria]

This one came with my (garage sale) Dewalt. Super happy with it, given limited garage space.

Dewalt DWX726 25 in. x 60 in. x 32.5 in. Heavy-Duty Rolling Miter Saw Stand - Yellow/Black

Dewalt DWX726 25 in. x 60 in. x 32.5 in. Heavy-Duty Rolling Miter Saw Stand - Yellow/Black

www.cpooutlets.com

 

[67carl]

Guess you could say I'm on the DeWalt bandwagon!

Got any pics of your compact set up?

The pic in my original post above shows what it looks like in use. Easy to unlock and slide the saw on the rails left or right.

It's a big saw, so even when the stand is folded up and in the vertical position, the saw sticks out quite a bit. The only issue I have with it is the stabilizer "feet" on the end are too small. The saw extends out so far past the feet it tips over in that direction. An easy fix, which I haven't gotten around to doing yet, is to drill a hole in each metal foot and attach a wide piece of wood to make it bigger.



I've got it stored in my "3 seasons" room, resting against the table saw (also on a foldable stand - but its a DeWalt).


View from the other side.

 

[Mike65]

I have a 10" Delta compound miter saw that I have had for about 22 years & has worked flawlessly.

 

[Greenlawnracing]

The pic in my original post above shows what it looks like in use. Easy to unlock and slide the saw on the rails left or right.

It's a big saw, so even when the stand is folded up and in the vertical position, the saw sticks out quite a bit. The only issue I have with it is the stabilizer "feet" on the end are too small. The saw extends out so far past the feet it tips over in that direction. An easy fix, which I haven't gotten around to doing yet, is to drill a hole in each metal foot and attach a wide piece of wood to make it bigger.



I've got it stored in my "3 seasons" room, resting against the table saw (also on a foldable stand - but its a DeWalt).


View from the other side.

Looks slightly bulkier than I thought, but I’m guessing you just leave it attached and roll it into your three seasons room? I’d have to set it on the floor of my cubbie I suppose.