I have what I would call a first generation 1908 vs later. Both 10” both patent pending but one is a rougher type of steel with hammer marks possibly testing strength of neck The unusual part is the top is flattened off where movable jaw comes out top. While not on 1907 diagram it is on the...
You can see a nick in ratchet where pipe would fit over handle. However, it can be used without handle as well ( despite designed intent for more torque) so it still “kinda” qualifies as first stubby ratchet. Grab and use.
If you followed thread there is a same size as the EE-1 I referenced earlier. The handle is secure and does not twist off like today’s large ratchets (ie snap-on) I have seen several of these. They prolly saved forging costs by hammer drop forging head part only, then attaching machined handle...
I am confident the EE stubby was made by EE Johnson as a machinist at Lowell Wrench Co. in the 1881-1886 period. And that the EE Johnson”2” was made after the stubby but wasn’t mass produced. It might have been a proto type to compete with the Sinclair patent.
Ok here’s the EE-8. It appears to be before the EE Johnson long ratchet. It mirrors the guts of your Ben it has. 5/8 opening in gear vs 1/2 the walls by the pawls are narrow. So the EE Johnson “2” really was after the No. 1. The Stubby appears to be in the 1881-1886 (EE JOHNSON Years) and befor...
In that one you have a machined gear I was comparing it to your other 1864. This one. So the EE should have a machined gear. If the walls are thin like yours then we will know this came after the stubby.
The biggest and most significant change I see is the main gear is now machined vs cast. The head is either bigger or beefier as well. From pawls to edge of case is thicker. It’ll be interesting to to the EE-8 stubby. I’m thinking it has a machined gear as well.