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Squankum

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Did I mention I like Knipex? Yet another pair of Cobras, this pair's for the domestic/kitchen side.

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These electrician's snips were $25.99 from Amazon. People like these things, I hear.

At this link I compare them to the Harbor Freight "Doyle" brand, $14.99, and declare the Doyle identical and the winner.

 
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Nobody-named-Olli

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(…) I'm afraid to try NWS, as people say they're better than Knipex, and I love Knipex.

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Rest assured they are not. ;) Different, yes. Some types/models/sizes Knipex doesn’t offer, yes. Quality product, yes. Generally/ overall better, no. Fit and finish, in my experience, subpar on some models, especially the early ergo pliers.

Kind regards,
Olli
 

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I thought this was an interesting find on Amazon.... Essentially a clone of one of my favorite compact 'nano style' socket bit sets, the Wurth. Cheap too...

Not identical in materials or finish, but 1:1 in tool specs.

Sockets/ratchet are interchangeable with the Astro 1/4" Nano dual drive system, 11mm with the same lock ring.

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CHI_Tool&Die

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I thought this was an interesting find on Amazon.... Essentially a clone of one of my favorite compact 'nano style' socket bit sets, the Wurth. Cheap too...

Not identical in materials or finish, but 1:1 in tool specs.

Sockets/ratchet are interchangeable with the Astro 1/4" Nano dual drive system, 11mm with the same lock ring.

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I bought the Matco version a few weeks back and it’s been really handy.
 

Bigblue&Goldie

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I picked up the Quinn 1/4, 3/8, 1/2" and bit socket master sets for $300.76 out the door. I'm trying to put together a comprehensive set of hand tools for our place up north. I have a lot of friends and family that drive Stelantis and GM products, so I want to make sure they can get to the dealer on their own accord when they are visiting........

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lund

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I picked up the Quinn 1/4, 3/8, 1/2" and bit socket master sets for $300.76 out the door. I'm trying to put together a comprehensive set of hand tools for our place up north. I have a lot of friends and family that drive Stelantis and GM products, so I want to make sure they can get to the dealer on their own accord when they are visiting........

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I never understod the fixation with multiple complete automotive tool sets at several locations. It is hard to fix much without parts outside of basic stuff. You guys keep so much parts and supply inventories to allow substantial remote repairs ?!?!

I own/rent a 2nd house in cali and i travel 1x a year there to do a big flurry of work for a few days to a week (depending on needs). So i have a substantial parallel tool set and a lot of supplies in the basement. But nothing like multiple complete socket sets of 3 drive sizes!!! I also almost always have to order and accumulate supplies for the next years' round of work or it becomes impossible (spend too much of a limited time allotment running to stores or waiting for orders to come in leaving no time for substantial work). Also, even when I do auto repairs at home I usually order stuff a week in advance online (say RockAuto mostly) and find if I miss needs it is often hard to get much at local shops and dealers over the weekend. So most significant repair work takes some planning and setup.
 
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Bigblue&Goldie

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I never understod the fixation with multiple complete automotive tool sets at several locations. It is hard to fix much without parts outside of basic stuff. You guys keep so much parts,and supply inventories?!?!

Nope, I only keep maintenance supplies, but our place is in a town (Flagstaff) with dealerships representing most of the major automotive and power sports manufacturers along with the major parts stores, so parts are abundant. Also, when it's 115° at home, I can do my maintenance and repairs up north where it's only 80°. The primary purpose of these tools is to keep my toys up.

On any given weekend I could be working on vehicles ranging from my kid's RZR170 to my F-450. Flagstaff is often a midway point for my friends and family headed to Los Angeles, Moab, Lake Powell, and Amarillo with trailers/RV's. It's also a favorite hunting location. If I'm not home, any one of those people can get into the garage and grab what they need to get back on the road. Worst case scenario, it's HF (also in town) so they keep it and I just go buy new stuff.
 
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I’ve been buying 3/8 drive impact stuff lately.

Today the 3/8” drive NANO swivel sockets arrived from Amazon.
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I went to HF to get 3/8 impact extensions and bought these two sets.
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I also saw this open box 3/8 drive ICON Metric impact socket set on 35% markdown. The let me examine them and the sockets were brand new and still covered in shipping (anti corrosion) oil. The set appeared to be complete so I pulled the trigger.
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When I wiped the oil off at home I realized the set had two 9mm sockets and no 8mm socket. I thought about returning the set within the 5 day return window, but decided to order a replacement 8mm ICON socket for $4.99 plus tax. With free shipping. After ordering the socket I still saved over 22% and have an extra 9mm socket.
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I've been thinking about getting a cordless impact gun--mostly limited to Craftsman V20 and DeWalt 20V as that's the batteries I've got.


Is there any reason why I'd get a 3/8 one? All my existing stuff is 1/2.
 

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I've been thinking about getting a cordless impact gun--mostly limited to Craftsman V20 and DeWalt 20V as that's the batteries I've got.


Is there any reason why I'd get a 3/8 one? All my existing stuff is 1/2.
Get the 1/2 one!

I’ve been using 1/2” impacts for over 40 years and never thought about getting a 3/8 impact until a recent purchase that lead me down that path.

About a month ago I bought these NANO low profile sockets in 1/4” and 3/8 drive along with the special ratchets.
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Last week I decided to look for a 3/8 air impact to use with these sockets and saw that the 3/8 HF Earthquake is on clearance for $49 and bought one. After that it started to snowball because I wanted to fill out a set of sockets for this new impact.
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Last month Eric O did a tool of the day on the 3/8 NANO pinless swivel impact sockets being great for working in tight spaces on cars, so decided to get those. The last phase of the snowball is waiting for the next ICON sale to complete the 3/8” drive impact set with metric deep sockets along with SAE regular and deep sockets.

If the 3/8 set comes in handy for working on cars, I may look to get a pneumatic butterfly impact. I worked with a guy who used a 3/8 butterfly impact for practically everything on cars.
 

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I never understod the fixation with multiple complete automotive tool sets at several locations. It is hard to fix much without parts outside of basic stuff. You guys keep so much parts and supply inventories to allow substantial remote repairs ?!?!

I own/rent a 2nd house in cali and i travel 1x a year there to do a big flurry of work for a few days to a week (depending on needs). So i have a substantial parallel tool set and a lot of supplies in the basement. But nothing like multiple complete socket sets of 3 drive sizes!!! I also almost always have to order and accumulate suppliesfor the next yearsround or it becomes impossible (all time running to stores or waiting for orders to come in leaving no time for substantial work).

This forum has lots of people that just enjoy tools.

It's totally understandable.
 

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I wanted to try these out but not for the $40 Lowes wanted.
A local liquidation B&M just got them in and priced them less than half that much so I grabbed them.
As with most of the V-Series tools I have seen, they are finished very well.
I still feel like Craftsman and Lowes dropped the ball on this line. It could have become so much more.

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I never understod the fixation with multiple complete automotive tool sets at several locations. It is hard to fix much without parts outside of basic stuff. You guys keep so much parts and supply inventories to allow substantial remote repairs ?!?!

I own/rent a 2nd house in cali and i travel 1x a year there to do a big flurry of work for a few days to a week (depending on needs). So i have a substantial parallel tool set and a lot of supplies in the basement. But nothing like multiple complete socket sets of 3 drive sizes!!! I also almost always have to order and accumulate suppliesfor the next yearsround or it becomes impossible (all time running to stores or waiting for orders to come in leaving no time for substantial work).
As has been stated, there’s a love of tools, but more importantly, I have a lot of friends like @Bigblue&Goldie that have a lot of toys in multiple locations. The time saved by having what you need where and when you need it is justification enough. And when you’re dealing with multiple different platforms, you need the variety. I’m always thankful for my ‘well-tooled’ friends (don’t read that the wrong way! 🤣) as they’ve gotten me out of a bind on many occasions!
 

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Yeah, I'm not going overboard. I had an old 27" roll cab that I moved up there. I replaced my combination wrenches with Wrightgrips last year, so my old sets got moved up the hill. I bought a set of screwdrivers and a few other odds and ends and any duplicates in my home box got relocated as well. As it stands I doubt I have $350 in purchases as it's mostly stuff I've had.
 

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Is there any reason why I'd get a 3/8 one? All my existing stuff is 1/2.
If you need to grab and go a whole kit, for work on the go, etc... the 3/8 being 20lb less is kinda nice...and also they are cheaper if you are adding onto existing capabilities. They also tend to have different default height/depths depending on where you source them.

The other side is... 1/2s tend to hit harder if you have a marginal gun, you may already have them, you may like the longer stand-off distance, and not to mention "what works well already... works" principle...

Just for reference...

31 lbs for the HF quinn 1/2 master impact set $180ish
12 lbs for the HF quinn 3/8 master impact set $100ish
 

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Not really an "arrival" - but I had spent some time trying to get my hex bits organized and made this!

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I'll probably make a 2nd one, since I still have bits left over. These will take much less space than those hex bit boxes

I started making a few more of these (first for all my bits... then to gift to friends) in the CNC shed, and then I wanted to experiment with getting them sandblasted + anodized. Found a shop that could do that, so I had a batch made... (silly to ano just 1). Really happy with how they came out!

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I wanted to try these out but not for the $40 Lowes wanted.
A local liquidation B&M just got them in and priced them less than half that much so I grabbed them.
As with most of the V-Series tools I have seen, they are finished very well.
I still feel like Craftsman and Lowes dropped the ball on this line. It could have become so much more.

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Made in France?
 
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Squankum

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I picked up the Quinn 1/4, 3/8, 1/2" and bit socket master sets for $300.76 out the door. I'm trying to put together a comprehensive set of hand tools for our place up north. I have a lot of friends and family that drive Stelantis and GM products, so I want to make sure they can get to the dealer on their own accord when they are visiting........

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That much Quinn, you'll need to sing the song when you use them!

 

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Ordered Wednesday (Worship of tools day), arrived today.

Vevor DC235 9” concrete/ demo (wet) saw. I’m taking a leap of faith here and will give extensive and honest feedback once I put it through the paces. I hope Shanghaimuxinmuyeyouxiangongsi won’t be letting me down. :)


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Kind regards,
Olli
"Your brand name must contain at least 30 characters. Do not use $,%,&, or @."
 

IMC

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I buy! How much?

I just posted them in Classified section!


Maybe this is how I'll recuperate from this side-quest haha
 

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RE: "Nothing inspires greater confidence than a Shanghaimuxinmuyeyouxiangongsi electric wet saw".

What's the target country Shanghaimuxinmuyeyouxiangongsi-ibn-al Vevor markets the 220V 60Hz saw for with blade dia. and depth of cut given in inches and the rest in mm and kg?

Olli, the saw won't work properly in Germany: you need one with 22,86mm blade and 88,9mm depth of cut. You have to call Shanghaimuxinmuyeyouxiangongsi and exchange it before the 3-hour manufacturer's warranty expires.
 
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With all the talk about Apex bits lately, I was searching eBay and came across an non-descriptive "Apex bit / socket set" lot for cheap. I recognized the part number on the larger 8mm bit and took a chance that it was a metric set.

Here is what showed up. 1, 2, 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and a random 9/64". 4 of the bit holders are Wright and the other 5 are Apex. All 1/4 drive.

As they arrived:
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I decided to pull all the bits and refurbish the set. Fully polished and cold blued the sockets and cleaned / polished the bits. They look great now.

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Put back together. The Apex bits fit nice and snug in both the Apex and Wright bit holders. I am quite pleased with this set.

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I filled out my 3/8” drive ICON impact socket set today. I logged into my insider track club account last night and found this 35% off ICON sockets coupon and used it to buy everything below today. The 35% off even worked for the impact extensions!

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Here is the coupon, I think it is only for inside track members and it expires today!
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As has been stated, there’s a love of tools, but more importantly, I have a lot of friends like @Bigblue&Goldie that have a lot of toys in multiple locations. The time saved by having what you need where and when you need it is justification enough. And when you’re dealing with multiple different platforms, you need the variety. I’m always thankful for my ‘well-tooled’ friends (don’t read that the wrong way! 🤣) as they’ve gotten me out of a bind on many occasions!

In my case, I have two teenage sons I am training to work on things. So when I accumulate more tools than I need (replacing what I have with something better and/or multi-location work that I do), I tend to save the excess to give them a boost in the future when the leave the house and finish school/college. Thinking back to my 20s, it took me a long time to accumulate what I needed while working on many things (cars, homes, electrical/electronics, furniture, machining, ...). If my sons can start out with more tools that fit that jobs, such work goes much better and should help them out.

The ones I am most skeptical of that I see here from time to time are people who accumulate big road tool sets to keep in the trunk for car breakdowns. To me, that seems mostly fantasy unless you are diving around in a parts van with jacks, blocks etc. You cannot do much without parts are supplies and it is difficult to know what will be needed before somewhat random problems occur. Plus working on the side of the road is often a bad idea. Conditions are unlikely to be good, and it can also be VERY risky and a bad idea to try to do anything that you cannot finish in a few short minutes.

A funny story on roadside repairs: When I finished college I started working on a lab and had a very old beater car that I got for free since it was such junk. I learned a lot fixing the multitude of breakdowns that it had. Because it broke down a lot and I was young and crazy and was saving $, I had a lot of parts in the back and tools etc (jacks, stands, wrenches, etc) to do real repairs. My boss asked me for a ride one day. Of course, the inevitable happened. The car developed a problem and was barely limping along. My boss was a very safety oriented type person. He nervously asked me if I was a member of AAA. I replied; "No I do not join &*#! Communist organizations. We are self-reliant American men. If it dies, I will fix it, and you can help. I have parts and tools (pointing in the back). " My boss went pale. He never asked me again for a ride. I am not sure how I stayed employed after this and other similar rounds. But, I guess in science, you can get away with some degree of eccentricity and extremism provided you perform well enough on the job.

So I speak from experience on not regarding significant roadside repairs as a good idea. Once I even replaced a failing drive axle by parking my car behind a lab building to hide enough for a few hours behind a dumpster while swapping parts that I biked in. Stuff like that often did not go optimally and even if it did work probably risked trouble (if I was caught by lab security, the lab probably would have had everyone doing extra training on what not to do in parking lots!). Doing such on the side of an interstate ... NO NO NO ... even at my peak level of craziness. Now that I am raising my teenage sons, I try to set a better example on not doing wacko things so they will not try to copy at high risk. My wife would also slowly torture me to death if anything bad happened to them that I might seed via copied patterns. So in recent years, I try to keep within reasonable bounds and roadside car repairs are not on the list.
 
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lund

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First Keiba purchases (won’t be my last):

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This is an example of what I was discussing earlier with Japaneses specialty tools sometimes being quality on another level. Notice the Keiba linesman type pliers to the left: They have a bronze ring built into the joint to provide self-lubricating low friction on an almost zero play fit. Probably all materials are optimal and grinding is spot on. When you use pliers like this on demanding jobs, you notice the difference. The shocking part is these kind of Japanese pliers might not be so expensive for what you get. Such Japanese companies often have very high attention to detail and quality. Probably significantly better than Snap On, BUT at much lower price points. This is not holding anything against Snap On either (they are good, but expensive for what you get if you do not need tool truck service). The upper-level Japanese brands are just *that good*. So if you work on electrical stuff heavily, they are well worth it. No, you will not have an easily actionable warranty. But trust me, if you break or damage them, chance are you are doing something exceptionally stupid (using them as a hammer say or a high leverage pry bar) making it questionable if it is right to ask for warranty replacement anyway. They are also used to dealing with Japanese people who would be very unlikely to ask for a warranty if they do something wrong. They know their products should not fail if used properly, so they would want a very believable explanation of a material or quality failure to replace them.
 
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Bit of a Matco haul:

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Got these Pro Non Slip sockets under the recommendation of @Callelle. I haven’t had much of a problem with my regular 6pt sockets but these are cool and unique and were on sale, so into the rotation they go.

Also got these dual drive RBRT style Torx sockets.
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The profile doesn’t look too different from regular Torx bits but the difference is enough to work magic on stripped and rotted-out Torx screws. I highly recommend picking the individual sizes you’re most likely to see, whether from Matco, GripEdge, or whomever. They really work well.

These are stubby and can also be driven with a 17mm wrench. The machining is exquisite on these:
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This is an example of what I was discussing earlier with Japaneses specialty tools sometimes being quality on another level. Notice the Keiba linesman type pliers to the left: They have a bronze ring built into the joint to provide low friction on an almost zero play fit. Probably all materials are optimal and grinding is spot on. When you use stuff like this you notice the difference. The shocking part is they might not be so expensive for what you get too. Such Japanese companies often have very high attention to detail and quality. Probably significantly better than Snap On, BUT at much lower price points. This is not holding anything against Snap On either (they are good, but expensive for what you get). They are just *that good*. If you work on electrical stuff heavily, they are well worth it. No, you will not have an easily actionable warranty. But trust me, if you break or damage them, chance are you are doing something exceptionally stupid making it questionable if it is right to ask for warranty replacement anyway. They are also used to dealing with Japanese people who would be very unlikely to ask for a warranty if they do something wrong and they know their stuff does not typically fail if used properly so they would want a believable explanation to replace.
this is probably also an example of snap-on prices not necessarily being because they are the best tools but because they have factored in their warranty and business model.

yes, you are paying for a good tool, but you are also paying for services you may not want, may not have available or may not apply to your needs.
 

lund

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I have similar pairs to these (large and small) in old USA Craftsman. They work ok in a pinch and are better than nothing. But they are a little more fiddly than I care for when working on things. It seems you lose some feel with all the screw/clamp connections, slide selectors, etc. If cost and storage are no issue, or you use such things a lot, a full set of straight and bent nosed retaining ring pliers would likely be much better -- Especially right after you slip using one of these and the clip shoots across the garage! Yes, that happened to me a few times adding complication to jobs. Coupled with me often being in a rush, they at least make a good case for consistent use of safety glasses!
 
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