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CHI_Tool&Die

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Bondhus XL ball end hex keys for work. I had a set but gave them away to a coworker after I recently purchased some Wiha hex keys. Bought another set because the Wiha keys **** outside of the holder. I would have went with Eklind, which I prefer for a couple of reasons, but I already have a ton of Bondhus stuff at work, their warranty process is easy, and they offer a few more options then Eklind.

That said, Bondhus cannot make XL keys straight if their lives depended on it. My first set had an 8mm shaped like a banana and the 4mm and 3mm keys had two bends each. This new set is no better. But they work and that’s ultimately the only thing that matters.
 

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BobsYourUncle69

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I've wanted one of these 1/4 set s for a while but couldn't stomach the cost. I was watching one on eBay , NOS , watched the price drop to around $100 then finally got one. Still a bit rich for this I feel but I doubt I can get it for less than this.
Like my 1/2 ratchets , this is 3 positions , on/lock/off. That's the main reason I wanted it.

COO Germany as per the packaging but I don't see the COO stamped on the sockets so I'm going to assume the actual sockets are either Taiwan or South Africa as neither of those plants label COO on sockets.

The 12mm skip is annoying though. That's the only skip.

As someone who likes Gedores wrenches ,sockets sets and tools in genral , This set is a dissapintment.

The ratchet is great , I like these ratchets but the sockets fit the same as the Gedore red sockets do , a little on the loose side. On inspection , the chrome satin chrome finish might be a little different , the krnurling is different but I swear these are the same socket and the lack of COO stamped on the socket makes me think so even more.

The fit is completely different to my German and South African 3/8 and 1/2 sets which have a very precise fit to everything. The packaging says " made in Germany " and that this was NOS so I was hoping that I was going to get either German or SA sockets but that isn't the case here.

In cases like this , COO and the accurate representation thereof matter as you know what to expect , well , did anyway.

This is not a $200 socket set ( I paid a little over half of that ) I just as well could have only bought the ratchet and used any 1/4 sockets. I hope they don't start doing this with the 3/8 and 1/2 sets too

Any suggestions on 1/4 sockets that fit more precisely ? That don't wobble around too much ?
 

lu787a

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As someone who likes Gedores wrenches ,sockets sets and tools in genral , This set is a dissapintment.

The ratchet is great , I like these ratchets but the sockets fit the same as the Gedore red sockets do , a little on the loose side. On inspection , the chrome satin chrome finish might be a little different , the krnurling is different but I swear these are the same socket and the lack of COO stamped on the socket makes me think so even more.

The fit is completely different to my German and South African 3/8 and 1/2 sets which have a very precise fit to everything. The packaging says " made in Germany " and that this was NOS so I was hoping that I was going to get either German or SA sockets but that isn't the case here.

In cases like this , COO and the accurate representation thereof matter as you know what to expect , well , did anyway.

This is not a $200 socket set ( I paid a little over half of that ) I just as well could have only bought the ratchet and used any 1/4 sockets. I hope they don't start doing this with the 3/8 and 1/2 sets too

Any suggestions on 1/4 sockets that fit more precisely ? That don't wobble around too much ?
You should take a look at Koken. I think they have a deserved rep as the tightest fit between the socket and the anvil for both their regular and especially their Z series. Their sockets are still noticeably tighter when I pair them with some Tekton ratchets.
 

SouthernIllinois

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A little Matco love today.

I blame the little light entirely on Clay and Matco Michael from the Koon Trucking YouTube channel.

They highlighted this tiny light on a video and I had to get one!!!

I also have a pocket screwdriver and prybar fetish so I got a couple more to qualify for the free shipping (I don’t have a local Matco guy)

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Hakeem

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Mac Truck Wednesday! No more using needle nose pliers to remove o-rings.

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What’s the difference between the “spoon tip” and the “contour tip”?

New wave of Icon G2 ratchets:

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Those 1/4” stubbies are super tempting, especially for the price. Be sure to let us know how they are, please
 

Jtels85

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Getting anything off their flyer ?

Not this month. Flyer 4 started this week and features a 6 piece XL pick and seal removal set for $109.99 The handles are larger than this set, and double the price, which is why I opted for the smaller set. That and I already have a set of MAC hook/picks.

I'm waiting for some USA impact sockets to hit the flyer again. He has a nice set of 1/4" drive metric USA wobble impacts, but the price is over $400. I cringed.
 

rword

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Not this month. Flyer 4 started this week and features a 6 piece XL pick and seal removal set for $109.99 The handles are larger than this set, and double the price, which is why I opted for the smaller set. That and I already have a set of MAC hook/picks.

I'm waiting for some USA impact sockets to hit the flyer again. He has a nice set of 1/4" drive metric USA wobble impacts, but the price is over $400. I cringed.
Yea I was eyeing the xl pick set. Last flyer I got the 2 for 1 bundle on the ratchet screwdriver set/1/4 wrench set
 
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Up to this point I had gotten away with only a 22mm wrench. :ROFLMAO:

It's all about access.

I've been able to use a 22mm wrench in the past. Not sure I remember ever using any sensor tools in the past.

However I replaced the cats on my car last week and I had to use a sensor crowfoot for the front cat/exhaust manifold assembly. A 22mm wrench just wouldn't work. It did however work for the secondary cat underneath.
 

willf650

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Bit the bullet and bought it on the company credit card. It’s better to ask for forgiveness then beg for permission.

Home Depot and the buy a tool get free battery deal got me again.
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edit: This thing wasn‘t up to the task of 1/2” holes so I returned it. It can do it but not fast enough for professional use.
 
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CHI_Tool&Die

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First time on the Snappy truck since December. The small pry bars are way more handy than I would ever have thought. I use them a lot at work so I grabbed a few more. The DOE wrench is to test to see how I like Snappy wrenches. It’s pretty nice but coming from German wrenches, it’s a bit of a thicc boi. But I wanted to give them a chance since my beloved Gedore wrenches are becoming harder to source and are getting to damn near Snappy prices.
 

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lund

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It's all about access.

I've been able to use a 22mm wrench in the past. Not sure I remember ever using any sensor tools in the past.

However I replaced the cats on my car last week and I had to use a sensor crowfoot for the front cat/exhaust manifold assembly. A 22mm wrench just wouldn't work. It did however work for the secondary cat underneath.

At least where I live (rust belt), O2 sensors tend to be very rusted and corrosion bonded. So a crowfoot (access) and regular impact-type O2 sockets with a wire split are by far the most useful for getting them off. It can take some hammering to get them free. I am not sure more is needed beyond that. Maybe a pro doing a lot of them would find some of the angled wrenches and ratchets useful in some situations. But they are probably not needed. In my limited experience, they are often too stuck to use a regular open-end wrench without a good chance of rounding the mounting hex and slipping. I never had much luck with penetrants helping ... plus they are right by the CAT so you do not want to get that in the pipe (some cars have a downstream CAT after the downstream O2 sensor also).
 

mikeinri

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At least where I live (rust belt), O2 sensors tend to be very rusted and corrosion bonded. So a crowfoot (access) and regular impact-type O2 sockets with a wire split are by far the most useful for getting them off. It can take some hammering to get them free. I am not sure more is needed beyond that. Maybe a pro doing a lot of them would find some of the angled wrenches and ratchets useful in some situations. But they are probably not needed. In my limited experience, they are often too stuck to use a regular open-end wrench without a good chance of rounding the mounting hex and slipping. I never had much luck with penetrants helping ... plus they are right by the CAT so you do not want to get that in the pipe (some cars have a downstream CAT after the downstream O2 sensor also).

I'm a DIY guy, so I'll defer to pros if this is wrong, but I've seen some online videos and forum comments saying to save the "fancy" tools for installing the new one.

Seems like the best / fastest way to remove stuck ones is to just cut the wire off at the sensor and use normal impact sockets (with heat, etc. as needed, and of course be careful not to damage threads).

I'm sure there are instances that won't work, of course.

Mike
 
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