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Jarhead0408

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Do you have the blurry pic?

I may have loaded the hand truck the other way personally but nice score.
I do have the blurry pictures...

I agree with you on the placement, but the meatball wouldn't quite clear the blade on the handtruck and by the time we got it out of the trunk I didn't want to further risk a hernia by lifting it again.

I'll edit the original post and add the blurry photos there. And THANKS!
 
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I hope y'all will overlook the excess photos I took instead of just posting one. It's not everyday I come across a big one. My last big/rare one was a Wilton SJ-60 I saved in Virginia a few years back.

A few weeks back I found a blurry photo on Facebook Marketplace of this vise with an asking price of $200. I couldn't tell the make or the model, but I knew it was big and old. I managed to narrow it down to being a Prentiss, and a large one, but I wasn't sure of the model yet and didn't want to spook the seller into looking into its value.

Since they were one town over at about 22 minutes away, I asked if she would hold it for me until I got back on the weekend. I offered to pay an extra $50 if she would. She agreed and after I trucked back in state it was time to go pick it up.

It used to belong to her ex-husbands grandfather who was an electrical engineer for G.E. up in the northeast. After the divorce he didn't want it anymore and told her to keep it. It was in her garage for a few years before she decided to sell it.

While it is not the 295 pound 8" jaw Prentiss Model 58 that I was hoping it was, it turned out to be the little sister to it at 210 pounds for this pre-1948 7" jaw Prentiss Model 57 Railroad Chipping Vise. She's a beast!1000047112.jpg

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Did you hand load that into your trunk? 😱
 

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Did you hand load that into your trunk? 😱
The lady's new dude helped me to load it in there. Way easier getting it in than getting it out due to the angle and gravity haha.

My son and I got it out, but I'm going to look into a second hand, portable Hoyer lift to have on hand in case any other monsters come along.

As much as I wanted this to be the 295 pound Model 58, somebody could've gotten hurt.
 

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I picked up this little 3-1/2", 9lb angle iron vise in a coastal antique shop yesterday. Has a miter key cast into the base to follow a table slot and degree marks to indicate the angle. I am assuming it came on a saw of some type but haven't found it yet. Also has a bar holding hole cast into it, possibly for a stop rod for making repetitive cuts. No identifying marks. Not sure quite what to make of it yet. Any ideas? Ed.
 

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I picked up this little 3-1/2", 9lb angle iron vise in a coastal antique shop yesterday. Has a miter key cast into the base to follow a table slot and degree marks to indicate the angle. I am assuming it came on a saw of some type but haven't found it yet. Also has a bar holding hole cast into it, possibly for a stop rod for making repetitive cuts. No identifying marks. Not sure quite what to make of it yet. Any ideas? Ed.
Seems extremely specialized, but if you had the saw to match, it would be ideal for making lots of angle frames.
 

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I picked up this little 3-1/2", 9lb angle iron vise in a coastal antique shop yesterday. Has a miter key cast into the base to follow a table slot and degree marks to indicate the angle. I am assuming it came on a saw of some type but haven't found it yet. Also has a bar holding hole cast into it, possibly for a stop rod for making repetitive cuts. No identifying marks. Not sure quite what to make of it yet. Any ideas? Ed.
Very interesting !!
 

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I picked up this little 3-1/2", 9lb angle iron vise in a coastal antique shop yesterday. Has a miter key cast into the base to follow a table slot and degree marks to indicate the angle. I am assuming it came on a saw of some type but haven't found it yet. Also has a bar holding hole cast into it, possibly for a stop rod for making repetitive cuts. No identifying marks. Not sure quite what to make of it yet. Any ideas? Ed.
I’m in the camp of “if it looks like a woodworking tool, but is way overbuilt, it might be a printers tool”. I’ve seen planes, miter gages, and something else that is escaping me right now, that looked like it’s WW counterpart, but stupid stout. Looked up the patents, and all three were printer’s tools. Maybe?
 

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I've looked through a lot of pictures and done a lot of internet searches today but haven't found anything close to a match so far. Even searched vintage print shop tools and came up empty. I'm sure info on this odd little vise will turn up sooner or later. Ed.
 

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How about this? Looks like family at least.

Thank you for that RTM. I think you have cracked the case. Very similar and a significant lead to follow. Ed.

On Edit: Just went out and tried it on the table of my old cylinder grinder. The jaw shape does do a good job of securing bar stock, probably without marring it. It isn't Rivett as the T slot is wider and the height is a bit lacking but there are a lot of similar grinders to look at. Probably an optional piece if it was for a cylinder grinder as most work was secured in collets. I've got a Delta Toolmaker surface grinder to check it out on too. Narrowing the possibilities down. Ed.
 

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I picked up this little 3-1/2", 9lb angle iron vise in a coastal antique shop yesterday. Has a miter key cast into the base to follow a table slot and degree marks to indicate the angle. I am assuming it came on a saw of some type but haven't found it yet. Also has a bar holding hole cast into it, possibly for a stop rod for making repetitive cuts. No identifying marks. Not sure quite what to make of it yet. Any ideas? Ed.
Sawing or grinding round stock tends to be dangerous because the stock can start rotating.
This would solve that issue.
 

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I am pretty sure at this point that the vise shown in RTM's post is the same make as the one I found. It is priced much higher than what I paid. I am missing the right angle piece that attaches the two half's. In the vise I have both the base and the upper are threaded for a 7/16 x 14 bolt. As they are both threaded there is currently no way to tighten them accurately together without drilling the threads out of one side. It does fit any table with a 1/2" T slot including the Delta. Ed.
 

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As they are both threaded there is currently no way to tighten them accurately together without drilling the threads out of one side
Thinking outside the Machinist box, and into my photography days of yore, I had a tripod where the attaching bolt was turned down below the threads. Your screwed thru the base, then it hit the open threads, and could thread into the camera base, and tighten down.

Of course, you need to have all your lengths right, and turn the Shaft down to under the minor diameter just a hair. Us hacks could probably do it with a drill and a narrow powered stone.
 
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