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Post #0076a - Construction work continues - More progress at accommodation module - Part LXXI

Fitting out the interior kicked off with preparing the concrete slab in the accommodation module for tiling but first up the tiles arrived on site.

Nothing exotic was chosen. A single grey 600 x 600 mm (2’ x 2’) floor tile is used throughout, a small grey and white square tile laid in a checkerboard pattern for the kitchen bench splashback, subway pattern splashback for the laundrette bench and stack pattern feature wall in the bathroom combined with textured white tiles.

All the tiles were selected from Beaumont Tiles. Looks like those shown are made in China and Vietnam.

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Off to a good start. The centre of the room has been identified and tile laying has commenced from the centre and also from a saw cut in the slab.

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When talking to the tiler he said the demanding, physical nature of the trade was catching up with him, even though he was only in his late 30s. He’s given up starting apprentices as they’ve all quit in the first week.

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Notice how the tiler has only laid two tiles away from the saw cut, so that a walkway is maintained to allow him to keep working towards the sliding glass door.

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Next up, the full tiles were laid towards the laundrette. From what I understand, to maintain efficiency, the approach is to lay as many full tiles as possible, leaving the tile cuts to another stage.

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Actually, this floor tile was a substitution due to the discontinuation of our first preference.

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Just curious :unsure: why lay tile before the drywall isn't at least primed?
I've done a few builds in Australia over the years, and I would say that is indeed a good question and I guess building practices vary over the world. A friend of mine used to live in Hong Kong, and told me that the usual practice for a bathroom was to lay all the tiles in an empty room, then bash holes through all the tiles , install plumbing , then replace all the broken tiles ( I do not know if this was actually true, surprised me to be sure !!).
Usually I find the tilers splash stuff up the walls so I'm glad I haven't painted them yet !!
So, usually : floor tiles, paint walls , skirting boards install ( or skirting boards before painting, depends on when the painters are available or if I'm doing it myself)
 
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Just curious :unsure: why lay tile before the drywall isn't at least primed?
@Mr onetwo @Coolabah is on the right track in terms of the trade order and bathroom walls can cop a bit of splash when the tiler lays the screed floor.

The main determining factor in this case is the painting was being done by spray painting which is becoming very common to achieve very high standard finishes. So, the process demands reducing the likelihood of damage to painted surfaces post painting. Hence all possible trades, where possible, are completed before painting.

Hence, the order here is: 1) door jambs, door headers, door/window trim before tiling where tiles are laid to meet these, 2) floor screed laid, floor tiling and some wall/skirting tiles, 3) staircase treads and risers, 4) door jambs, door headers, remaining door/window trim and skirting boards, 5) test fit and resize doors as needed, cut handle recesses etc. 6) cabinetry, 7) tile splash backs, 8) painting...
 
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Post #0076b - Construction work continues - More progress at accommodation module continued - Part LXXI

The next few photos show the completed tiles in the living area (except for grouting). To the left-hand-side of the plastic, cardboard floor protection has been laid and it doesn’t look like it’s been tiled.

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I opted to install a floor drain in the laundrette, even though one is not mandatory. To me, it's just common sense to have one.

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Meanwhile, the specialists laying the reclaimed timber on the staircase were also on site. To do this you need a stockpile of pre-cut treads and risers.

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The pine stiles or side rails will simply be painted.

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All done, except for final sanding and application of an anti-slip coating.

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To be continued.
 
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Post #0076c - Construction work continues - More progress at accommodation module continued - Part LXXI

With the tiles laid in the living area the tiler then progressed to laying a mortar screed in the bathroom.

This photo shows about half of the floor area done.

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Now completed, looking in from the main shed space.

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Taped off to prevent entry.

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Toilet suite area.

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Entry area to bathroom from living area. Again, I opted to include a floor drain, even though it’s not a mandatory plumbing code requirement.

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Vanity basin area.

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Shower cubicle area.

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The plasterers also returned and enclosed the laundrette by filling in the hole to the staircase and adding a ceiling.

Again, I opted to include a floor drain, even though it’s not a mandatory plumbing code requirement.

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@Mr onetwo @Coolabah is on the right track in terms of the trade order and bathroom walls can cop a bit of splash when the tiler lays the screed floor.

The main determining factor in this case is the painting was being done by spray painting which is becoming very common to achieve very high standard finishes. So, the process demands reducing the likelihood of damage to painted surfaces post painting. Hence all possible trades, where possible, are completed before painting.

Hence, the order here is: 1) door jambs, door headers, door/window trim before tiling where tiles are laid to meet these, 2) floor screed laid, floor tiling and some wall/skirting tiles, 3) staircase treads and risers, 4) door jambs, door headers, remaining door/window trim and skirting boards, 5) test fit and resize doors as needed, cut handle recesses etc. 6) cabinetry, 7) tile splash backs, 8) painting...
Indeed, and I guess order can change depending on Trades availability etc- bear in mind they'd rather attend once rather than twice, which I totally understand :)
In my recent build, (second storey addition and complete strip out and remodel, where I did all interior painting and cabinet work/ kitchen install etc ) order ended up being:
a) framing b) drywall or fibre cement panels 1) door jambs, door headers, door/window trim before tiling where tiles are laid to meet these, 2) floor screed laid, floor tiling and skirting tiles, 3) staircase treads and risers, c) paint walls , paint doors & woodwork, and woodwork (eg skirting boards) yet to be installed d) install cabinetry 4) remaining door/window trim and INSTALL skirting boards, 5) doors- cut handle recesses etc. 6) - 7) tile splash backs, 8) painting- touch up as needed
so - needs be as needs must I guess !

Enjoying your build progress !!!
 

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Not to be critical, but your choice of tile supplier suggests you like wasting money as much as Coolabah does. Maybe they were having a sale.

No doubt that's a bit harsh of me but on reading that bit of your update I recalled finding the floor tile we had picked, the exact same tile, at a non-descript tile place without a big fancy showroom display for exactly half the price of the place you got yours.

Anyway, your place is coming along very nicely and there seems to be an increasing risk of it being finished, for which I bet you can't wait.
 
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Not to be critical, but your choice of tile supplier suggests you like wasting money as much as Coolabah does. Maybe they were having a sale.

No doubt that's a bit harsh of me but on reading that bit of your update I recalled finding the floor tile we had picked, the exact same tile, at a non-descript tile place without a big fancy showroom display for exactly half the price of the place you got yours.

Anyway, your place is coming along very nicely and there seems to be an increasing risk of it being finished, for which I bet you can't wait.
I don't know Geoff, not to be critical (see what I did there ?) that certainly sounded exactly like most very critical comments that I've heard . Even if your assumption is correct, I'm not sure it needed to be said. Tile deals vary from state to state in Aus, and good on you for finding a cheap deal. Interestingly, in my recent build I purchased similar floor tiles through the cheapest supplier I could find- Beaumont tiles, who were also having a sale at the time. I picked up the tiles from their store to save delivery fee, and they were very helpful when I needed more tiles from the same batch in a hurry due to a tiler's apprentice snafu.
Edit: and Geoff, I appreciate a joke and being roasted, more so than most. But , hey , the occasional positive comment would distinguish your online behaviour towards me from joking amongst mates ( note: I have never met you ) to just plain bullying. Just MHO.
 
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Greg, two possibilities come to mind.

The first is that I've unintentionally actually offended either you or Kitdoctor. If so, I unreservedly apologise. The point was not to be critical of either of you, rather to be critical of the large, prominent tile supplier he used, and the margins they place on their products. Who do you think pays for those flashy showrooms and displays? Including you in the comment was, in my mind, just continuing the banter we've enjoyed on here for years. I note that I have always been positive in my comments about this impressive project, including in my last paragraph above.

The second is that you're actually winding me up now, in which case well done.
 

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Greg, two possibilities come to mind.

The first is that I've unintentionally actually offended either you or Kitdoctor. If so, I unreservedly apologise. The point was not to be critical of either of you, rather to be critical of the large, prominent tile supplier he used, and the margins they place on their products. Who do you think pays for those flashy showrooms and displays? Including you in the comment was, in my mind, just continuing the banter we've enjoyed on here for years. I note that I have always been positive in my comments about this impressive project, including in my last paragraph above.

The second is that you're actually winding me up now, in which case well done.
Yeh, winding you up of course but upon re-reading my post , I might have overdone it a bit :shock:
 
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The first is that I've unintentionally actually offended either you or Kitdoctor. If so, I unreservedly apologise.
@Geoff289, I'm not offended at all. Even I know they are expensive but they were the only tile supplier my builder held an account with.

Even worse, staffed by a bunch of girls who are too busy gossiping to serve customers and expect you to make an appointment when you ask for some assistance :LOL:
 
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A chapter just closed 😌 with the contract for the sale of our home in Darwin of 25 years going unconditional.

So, we are just waiting for settlement to occur 🍾 and it has a new owner.

I do hate buyers who haggle (amongst other traits, like not meeting deadlines) when they get a great deal buying the best property in the entire estate with many extras thrown in :mad: but there's nothing to be gained holding onto that for too long.
 
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