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Forged Steel Products Co. Vacuum Grip Pliers Thread--Pre Snap-on

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OMG! I’ve been scheming on a trip to see the plier factory building, even without the expectation of finding anything! An event like this is just the thing to enlist the enthusiastic driving support of MrsLS.
So we send you all of our pliers, so they can see the motherland, and then you send them back afterwards? Kinda like sending the kids to gramma's for the summer?

We can trust you to send the back, right? Not like kids who will wear out there welcome, or tire gramma out, so I wonder if we should worry.
 
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I wish there was more info on the factory access.
Agreed. The intersection on the flyer is shared by a pawn shop and what might be an auction house or antiques store. Yet the site of the factory is several blocks SSW.
Still, I do not foresee disappointment for me if it prove fair weather; there is a community park and other attractions in the general area, and with any luck, a garage sale or two. I haven’t laid eyes on the lovely Juniata (Jew-knee-AT-uh) in years. If the event itself is lame, there are alternatives to just turning around and heading home.

BTW, (for me at least) Apple Maps consistently marks “Newport PA” just SW of Wilkes-Barre, midway between Nanticoke and Glen Lyon (fictionalized as “Coaltown” in Miracle of the Bells), in a completely different part of the state known for anthracite mines. I hunt around there. There is no pliers factory.
The Newport of FSP fame is NW of Harrisburg, central PA.

In other news…30DDC499-A075-44E5-BBB6-46BC008EC1B1.jpeg507B9F25-647F-408A-B6E7-43D3B6CB4156.jpeg8C3F0B6E-1734-4B45-9F5C-03D06EBC0420.jpeg
I had picked up this pair of 7” nippers, and had thought the pin would come out easily, allowing a little straightening and complete rust removal. Foolish, arrogant thought! I think the hole is chamfered, so they just got tighter and more mangled. I have them back into approximate shape, but - lesson learned - I will not be trying to take riveted pliers apart in the future.
 
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There is no access to the factory site, at least on a random Saturday. The building is now multiuse, including a magisterial court…so I guess there IS interior access, if you’re willing to run afoul of the law.
 

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D3DD615A-F718-4467-9763-2182D2D33466.jpegBut the set up was a few blocks away, an ANNUAL event. The block was dominated by food trucks and chatty crowds. At first, I thought I had missed the pliers event, because of getting stuck behind an accident on rt78. F1E6C656-F2B3-4725-B028-6410DABA56B0.jpegBut after I checked around, I found a few folding tables set up (fittingly) in front of a PA inspection station, where EMTs had two vehicles at the ready. One table had binders of photocopied news articles, employee lists, etc. Three others had pliers laid out, and there was room for mine! (foreground).6F6B9A88-2437-4D78-99B1-67792B996DDA.jpeg
But the real treat was talking with Dale, whose father had worked at the plant, and seemingly knows more about FSP than anyone else I’ve met. He had a trailer dedicated to displaying FSP output, which includes, not just pliers, but Blue Point screwdrivers, chisels, punches, and the iconic Blue Point Supreme DOEs (mostly in the chests).
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He also mentioned that the shipping container for sending water pump pliers from Newport to Meadville to have the patented Channellock grooves milled by Champion deArment and then sent back had been at the event last year.
WHAT?!!!
I asked if he had heard of GJ. No. So I swapped contact info, hoping to draw him in.
-Steve
 
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Great pictures, LS!
Impressive collection--and Dale's is pretty good too! I was looking and absorbing all the tool **** and thinking, "I hope LS tells him about GJ and the FSP thread and asks him to share some of his knowledge with us." It's good to know your head is screwed on tight and you can still keep your wits about you in the midst of all that distraction! Thanks!
 

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Thanks for posting the Pics, LesserSon. I'm a bit of a Forged Steel Products fan boy. I have several of the usual pliers. The stars of my collection are a pristine pair of Indian motorcycle valve cover pliers, both styles of piston ring groove pliers and the hog ring pliers.

That old factory building is super cool. The collection in Dale's trailer is impressive. Since you mentioned that this is an annual event, I may have to time one of my trips to PA to allow me to visit the event next year.
 
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Just thinking I should share a picture of the first production of FSP pliers they are marked FSP not yet named Vacuum Grip believed to be 1920

Welcome to GJ and this thread FSP Vac. Tools and thanks for posting! Catchy avatar name, too!

Let me reiterate that I am by no means an FSP or Vacuum Grip expert. I'm just a fan that fell into an instant collection and started this thread. That said, I'm interested to know what makes you believe your pliers are a first production from 1920 or earlier?

A couple of things have me scratching my head:
1. The FSP logo is unlike any I have seen (again--not an expert) and seems way to modernistic for the early 20th century. Manufacturers of that period were usually interested in establishing name recognition and were not shy about marking their products with specific identifying info like their full name and location. Although not unheard of, abbreviated names usually only appear due to lack of space or after branding has been firmly established.
2. Even though available on the early No. 26 thin nose combo pliers, the double jaw bite was rare for the time and I have not seen them on the No. 45 before.

Hopefully, you can supply your reasoning and perhaps other members who are more schooled in the brand can chime in.

Again, welcome and thanks for posting!
 

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Welcome to GJ and this thread FSP Vac. Tools and thanks for posting! Catchy avatar name, too!

Let me reiterate that I am by no means an FSP or Vacuum Grip expert. I'm just a fan that fell into an instant collection and started this thread. That said, I'm interested to know what makes you believe your pliers are a first production from 1920 or earlier?

A couple of things have me scratching my head:
1. The FSP logo is unlike any I have seen (again--not an expert) and seems way to modernistic for the early 20th century. Manufacturers of that period were usually interested in establishing name recognition and were not shy about marking their products with specific identifying info like their full name and location. Although not unheard of, abbreviated names usually only appear due to lack of space or after branding has been firmly established.
2. Even though available on the early No. 26 thin nose combo pliers, the double jaw bite was rare for the time and I have not seen them on the No. 45 before.

Hopefully, you can supply your reasoning and perhaps other members who are more schooled in the brand can chime in.

Again, welcome and thanks for posting!
I should have also posted the picture of the other side of the pliers that has the forged steel products name and location here is that picture also the company was well financed by investors at start up . The company was made up of previous employees from the Kraeuter tool company , FSP was a company with knowledge and funding to hit the ground running from the start EA218754-6205-4CEA-978F-3D716AB154F1.jpeg
 
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Well, that answers that! Although, I'm still surprised at that FSP logo.
It surprised me also when I found the first pair of them. I now have three pairs all the same number, If that one surprised you this is not the best example but here is what I believe is the first production that had the Vacuum Grip name on, it is stamped in block letters before the Vacuum Grip script was introduced F496E516-7041-432A-B865-60E4D250D3D0.jpegA816AE31-00D1-4C94-ACF4-CE45EEBF1744.jpeg3AA0CE1C-D3E0-477A-8FEA-E39F33182308.jpeg
 

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Picked up a pair of No70-A expanders today.
Question: do you think the jaws have been reground, or do they seem original?
Good question. And one that may not be readily answered in comparison to this example of No. 70-A's, which have clearly been modified. (I had found these last year, neglected to post them, and just re-found them when looking for something else.) Put it this way. If yours have been modified, mine have been even more extremely modified. Yours may be original after all.
 

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^^^ Well, there are plenty of home-etched names on tools, but I've yet to see any with factory-etched names in a velvet lined pouch!
 

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I never intended to start a collection of Real Vise Grips from Nebraska. I have hundreds of them. I have to say, this collection is much more interesting than mine. The variety is greater. I have about 10 or so of the pliers from this thread. I did not know there was this much history. Good job!
 

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I never intended to start a collection of Real Vise Grips from Nebraska. I have hundreds of them. I have to say, this collection is much more interesting than mine. The variety is greater. I have about 10 or so of the pliers from this thread. I did not know there was this much history. Good job!
Thank you, My Grandfather was a machinist at the factory, he had great stories that got my interest I started collecting at the age of fifteen and now have over 350 pieces
 

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Purrrrrdy.

Do you go to the annual "Homecoming" event we were talking about upthread? @LesserSon attended last year. Maybe you guys walked right past each other or talked.

Yes. Keep 'em coming.
Yes , I haven’t missed any of the Homecomings. I met @LesserSon at the last Homecoming, He told me about this sight, he displayed his plier collection also.
 

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Here are the three piston ring groove cleaners that FSP produced
 

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