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    Vintage craftsman, plomb and bluepoint.

    I'm interested in a few, but the picture links aren't showing up - bandwidth exceeded error.
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    HOT DEAL Index!!

    It's a good price for that particular middle chest. However, that middle chest is the shorter one (10" deep drawers). If you already have the shorter top chest and need a middle chest and are okay with the depth, then it's good.
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    HOT DEAL Index!!

    For anyone interested, these sets are still $5. The Doraville GA HD had 4 in the tool section, with a large $19.88 price tag. They rang up at $5, so I bought 2 more. That store now has 2 sets left.
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    We've seen hundreds of threads about QC problems with different brands, from Snap On to Harbor Freight. Bit of a bummer in that we need to double-check, but the long patterns are still beautiful wrenchs. And for every post about raised panels never letting one person down, there are others who...
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    It's poor QC more than poor manufacturing. I worked in a high speed manufacturing plant for 10 years. Out of spec products get made. QC should stop them from getting to the consumer.
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    I'll continue to recommend the Cman Pros. It just might mean an extra trip back to Sears to warranty replace any that don't meet your acceptable tolerances (now, before the singles are replaced with imports). Or buy a $10 HF caliper and bring it with you and check the wrenches in the parking...
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    And I'll continue to disagree. 8 2/3 out of 9 sets measured tighter than raised panels. 6 wrenches had issues. That's a QC issue, not a reason to bash an entire product line. And while your specific set of RP's did better than a few wrenches in the 2 sets of Pros you tried, the fit variance...
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    Just to be clear, this thread was in no way meant to bash Craftsman Professional wrenches. I absolutely love the set I have. I also plan to keep the second set. As I showed, the variations in Craftsman raised panel sizes are even higher than those of the Craftsman Professionals. I also...
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    All wrenches in this test were made in the USA. :thumbup: Yes, HF calipers. They're consistent and repeatable. So even if the exact measurements are off, they do show the (unfortunate) large differences between the wrenches. :eek:
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    You can see that my USA Cman Pros purchased last year all measure tight and consistent (between .02 and .08 mm over), and my Cman raised panels are all over the map, from .0025" over to .30mm over. Unfortunately, it seems that a few USA Cman Pro sets got out that lack consistency as bad as my...
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    The other wrenches in the set were all fine, with 2 wrenches (11/16" and 3/4") actually measuring tighter and thicker than mine. Here are a few more Cman Pro and RP measurements:
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    More disturbing is the top of the new open end is short. Blurry picture, but mine (top) has even ends. The new one has a very short top.
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    Open ends - my Cman Pro (.2505 tight), new Cman Pro (.2545 tight, but not as), RP (.2525 in between).
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    Open end thicknesses - mine .186", new .165".
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    Here are the quarter inch Cman Pros, the one I noticed the most. Box end widths - mine .175", new .147".
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    This shows the open end widths of the 18mm Pros, mine 8.03mm, new 7.53mm.
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    This shows the box end widths of the 18mm Pros, mine 11.28mm, new 10.19.
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    This is my 18mm Cman Pro (18.06 tight), then the new 18mm Cman Pro (18.28 loose). I don't have an 18mm RP, so I measured my 19mm: (19.30 loose!)
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    Craftsman Professional vs Raised Panel, measurements = yikes

    This shows the box ends of the 17mm Pros, mine is the one on the right.
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