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i'll just leave it as they are not the same as he mentioned. i can give detals since they are not in our electronic files any more and i dont have all day to go rooting around on mylar's. i worked on the new impact projects so i have a little more knowlage about these then he is posting i just...

trade dress yada yada yada whatever. anyway. give me 2 current drills a dewalt and black and decker that you feel are the same. and ill tell you if they are. your comparing 2 tools that were the same 10 or so years ago that were around the same time as the line was coming out and the other...

milwalkie is owned by TTI now which is not a US company

things that you guys said are the same were things carried over from black and decker pro. a line that was discontinued around the same time frame as dewalt was coming out. so yea the high end black and decker stuff might have been the same as dewalt at the time. but none of those tools are...

hahah atleast some one else feels my pain.

im currently working on some stuff i can not discuss at this time... come march/ april time frame it will be released and then we can discuss it. my title is designer. but since you just want to question everything i say so im sure you dont believe this.

ok let me break it down further. dewalt yellow is a patnented color. hence it cost more since its a "low" production material only ordered by us. hence adding cost. with a product designed 40 years ago that we have moved from brand to brand. the molds need to be updated for the new materials...

:beer: thanks for the kind words man... you're who we design for.

thank you for bring up tools designed in the last 10 years. honestly its alot more then just that. not sure but usally the fire storm is gunna have a plastic gear set as the dewalt will be a powdered metal. plus doing 3 speeds is MUCH harder to do then 2 speeds. requires a completly new clutch...

im just telling it how it is... wilbilt is comparing tools obsoleted 9 years ago (the 974) and designed almost 40 years ago (the 290) i can tell you this dewalt tools are tested to a MUCH higher standard for life (hours of run) then the black and deckers. as for batterys you get a much better...

like i said it was designed in the 70's back before dewalt. it was just a B&D then B&D pro then dewalt. lots of things can affect cost. new tooling diffrent materials including color. (yellow material in a glass filled nylon is quite a bit more then black). but like i said your comparing tools...

ok thinking back yea came off wrong sorry. but yea i can honestly tell you things that old are before my time here and might have been back in the B&D pro line which was basicly re branded dewalt. 2nd i cant talk alot about the testing we due to do the stuff im working on now, and id rather...

never said i was an engineer. look at the name its the designer. also check my email address. im for real

do me a favor and stop looking at tools that old... the dw290 was designed back in the 70's as a black and decker impact. the 290 was also copied by just about EVERYONE. all those china knock offs have one.

i cant check your part numbers but i can tell you now your comparing a black and decker drill to a dewalt that was obsoleted 9 years ago. and a black and decker drill obsoleted 8 years ago.

OK jason sent me this link and i cant believe you guys are this damn stupid... if you honestly believe in your own mind that the black and decker drill is built and tested to the same standards as the dewalt was your a *****! give me catalog numbers and all tell you all the diffrences. as for...