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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Re: New member, 30x48x12 build in Michigan and some fun with my new thermal camera :) Al Gillespie, Superior Radiant in Flint, Michigan. I was and am quite happy with my purchase and dealing with him. He answered all of my annoying questions and I think even met up with me on the weekend of...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Sigma, I am glad someone can learn from some of my experience (read mistakes/ trial and error) :). I am quite liking the French cleats also. I am not an experienced woodworker by any means, and I am sure I could research to find the following answers, but the only thing I do not like about the...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    I made a 3' shelf, that will hold at least 260 lbs (I stood on it....) and a 4'x8' sheet metal rack. I suppose if I were more experienced i'd be quicker, but taking the time to make the shelving square and use proper screws/drilling pilot holes etc takes quite a bit of time.....none of it is...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    So more progress, i'll need to update my drawings as I have modified things a little, but things are progressing. I just ran the numbers to finish the interior (siding and ceiling) and it is a little over $2k :(........speaking of that I ran the numbers the other day for how much I have invested...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    NWOhio, Thanks, I have certainly learned a few things during this build. All things to use towards my next build, if that ever happens :). I am liking the steel too and honestly after you considering painting wood (OSB or plywood) the cost is surprisingly similar. Down side is more difficult to...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    I cut out the electrical areas....I might have cut a touch too much around the main panel.....trimming should be interesting. After I cut out the area around the panel, the surrounding areas lost some stiffness (no surprise), so I screwed some extra blocking/bracing/wood in a few strategic spots...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    So I still need to cut out the area for my electrical box, I think I am going to leave a relatively large area open to make it easy to pull wiring in/out of the box, if needed. I am also going to use red screws around the box where wires could otherwise accidentally get pierced if a really long...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Ok so I decided to buy some sheet metal and give it a try...I do like it. Quick research seems to suggest the trim work really is not that difficult, and not having to paint is a big bonus. I did setup a quick experiment with 48" OC, 16" OC and 32" OC and although 48" is still actually...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    So if I decided to do sheet metal, i'd go this route mostly likely....i'd have to try a sheet or two and see if it was stiff enough for my liking.
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    So after another full day of thinking about the pros/cons and upcoming working I have come the the realization that: For 1/2 plywood, it is recommended no more than 32" span....if I do pretty close to that (instead of 4' OC or 2' OC) I can actually partially box in two of my windows, plus the...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Using excel/paint, here is another way of looking at what I am thinking. You can also see how I am debating to run the 2x6 across the entire garage to act as part of the wall covering (no overlap) or to put up the OSB and then install the 2x6 only where I want/need it (overlap). Opinions?
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Wow, it has been about a year since I last posted....or made any real progress on the barn.... Well I have finally started the next portion of my project (installing the wall/framing and still insulating). So I am in a typical struggle, wanting to be frugal, wise and have low labor since I am...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Hey Marsch, Thanks :). I do not mind at all, going from memory I believe the "kit" was ~ $7500, I paid like $4500 for install. The of course you have the concrete, electrical, natural gas, windows, garage doors (~$700 each), insulation etc., it adds up but I am happy to have mine.........i'll...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Hey Drives, that is a good way to learn :). One of the nice things about TIG (instead of MIG) is that it is very easy to see the metal "puddle", you can still see it with MIG but since it is a little faster it seems most people just do it based on experience (how long they spend at a spot and...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Drives: Honestly its budget and personal preference driven. If I had the money and wanted a nice TIG that'd do almost anything I wanted, i'd get a miller dynasty 200dx...great machine. However, I cannot justify that price....I ended up with a AC/DC tig by everlast for ~$1000, DC tig works fine...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Drive: I am an open book :). I do race and have most of my life. I started when I was about 8 years old and continued into college. College "stole all of the racing money" but I still did some performance driving on the side. I now have a job that I get to do some "performance" driving, and my...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Wizard, hopefully it will be alright :). I remember looking at a few online recommendations based on zip code and for this area it seemed to be 20 or 25, I don't recall exactly. It did make it through last winter....so i'll take that as a good sign. Yup, 15 minute drive to work each day. I work...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Wizard, I am pretty positive they did. I don't recall the exact number but I think they accounted for a 20 or 25 PSF live load. I think a 4:12 pitch is pretty common though? Thanks for looking out though! BTW I live near Chelsea, MI. I got the "kit" from Chelsea Lumber who are pretty well known...
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    Stngfever - Looks like a nice setup, should give plenty of heat and quickly :). Getting deals can certainly help drive decisions....I know some of mine have been.
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    30x48x12 Michigan Carr Garage

    So if anyone is curious, I have been experimenting with different size cuts as I go....which has certainly left some gaps to fill....but that is OK (yay for scrap and foam). The first picture shows what foam looks like from the can (I am a big fan of the "pro" gun)....the other pictures use the...
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