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Since I have neither I reply in ignorance, but the handle on a trusty cook looks just like the SO. For the price difference I was going to go for a TC. Especially since they post here on garage journal

Do you really want to trust your life (or getting shocked) to unknown tape? Only use 33 so i don't have to think.

Additional replacements in 1980 were J circle vice grip pliers (small needle nose, small, medium, and large regular vice grip style), I circle ratching box wrench. I have my dad's old crafstman tool box that I will break into when it cools down a bit. His old pear head ratchet did have the oil...

Thanks Jake. Since I've never used anything else they are still desirable by me! This thread and others about CM tools are very enlightening and had me reading almost every post. Thanks everybody.

General question, are -V- or =V= collectable? I got a bunch of these as replacements when they were stolen in 1980 (not that I will ditch them as I still use them). As a side to this all the screwdrivers are WF as are the pliers. I will continue to check the rest this weekend... not to...

Still riding my 1983(?) Nishiki Cascade (giant frame based on bottom bracket markings). I dont have a pic but when you search the first bike image shown is my vintage teal colored bike! The only thing original now is the frame. It has gone from laid down ******** off road bike when I was...

Funny you should ask.... For father's day my children replaced my 40 plus year old CM which smelled. BAD! I got used to griping about the odor. When they had to use the old screwdrivers they thought it was time to replace dad's old tools. No more acetate handles for me!

Not a tech but a guy who work on his street "racer"...regularly Listen to the guys here and do lots and lots of research. I recently replaced my mixed bag of screwdrivers with Proto due to advice here. They are the exact same as MAC but a different color. But have to admit I love my SO...

The drilling hammer is for use with "star" or spade bits and drilling in rock/boulders. Ball pein flat is soft so when the chisel is struck it does not deflect. Never use a claw hammer as the head is hardened specifically to drive nails