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Thanks, I'll look into putting this together. I'm not worried about cars - it doesn't function as a garage anymore, just a woodshop. Thanks for all the help, much appreciated.

What i'm considering now is two beams lengthwise, below the ceiling joists close to the joint at the rafters on each side. Close to where the lights are in the fourth photo. Each beam in two lengths, with a **** joint and a post in the center, and two posts on either end at the wall. The...

Here's a few pictures i was able to take - they show the vertical supports in the attic (there's not many, most of the ceiling joists have just one, some don't have any), a few of the roof that kind of show the rafter sag, and the interior that gives an idea of how far up the rafters were raised.

Bill thanks for looking into that for me. I can manage that size LVL. I'm going to take some pictures and come up with a sketched plan tomorrow and see what you all think.

I like this solution, however i wonder if there's a solution that requires a slightly more manageable sized beam. Is there a way to support the ceiling joists without supporting the entire load of the roof at this point? If I added two beams at the ends of the ceiling joists, that would in...

Correct - the 2x4 rafter tie/ceiling joist span is around 16' at that point. This is my original reasoning for adding a beam to support the added ceiling weight on the 2x4's. Perhaps a combo of a smaller (more manageable) beam in the attic, supported by 2 or more permanent posts to the...

lol, we'll then i suppose it's rediculous. Hard to gauge for me by eye, but i can't see it only being 3/4" in the worst spots. I'll take some pictures tonight and maybe try to get an actual measurement. A rediculous sag would likely require sistering rafters, then?

Billconner - Since i have some racks and other infrastructure already in place below, i think it'd actually be easier to just go through the gable end with an LVL, lifting it up there notwithstanding. I'd have to use scaffolding etc. No doors on the gables - i could add a post under each end...

Hi all, Thanks for having me here. This seems to be a popular topic but i wasn't able to find an answer here, apologies if i'm double posting. I have a detached gable garage, 24' x 36'. 2x6 rafters 24" OC, 2x4 rafter ties every rafter. The rafter ties are raised 1/3 of the way up the...