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Ironically just yesterday I was watching this video from not well known YouTuber, and yes, product placement is one thing, but his review sounds genuine. Not like he didn't have issues with PM, but he speaks highly of it. And projects he is doing is way above my skill level. I am even thinking...

I thought about them. But PM as said above positioned themselves as "go to" for quality hobby lathe. Many guys on YouTube use them. I am pretty sure PM probably give them a good deal to promote their equipment, but.. I still rather support small but with good reviews business vs Grizzly and...

I’ve been researching and PM preferable. Missouri is big. Visit to Grizzly is one day 400 mile trip

They are bolt together for lockers. Bottom cabinets came assembled. I started unpacking and unfortunately one casualty already. I really hoped it wouldn't happen, but.. One of the bottom drawers - they did set something on top also it clearly marked everywhere not to stack

EXACTLY. I had 9x20 and it did all I needed. It just wasn't rigid enough to try some of the projects I wanted or imagined. It did all of the bushings and adapters I needed for car/motorcycle work. Thats why 12x40 or something like that would be all I need me think. And I really want to learn...

Are you comparing by packaging or how? They are 18ga and lockers 48in wide 2ft deep

Btw, my stairs is outside concrete so it’s not that bad. But dimensions still a problem Unrelated, what is a big deal with those 3ph motors? Wont that lathe work with 3-5hp single phase motor?

As I replied to others - help me get good one and get it into basement - I will pay a fee :)

Yeah. I know. It's a big dilemma. But I just want to use it and not be a "restorer". I have many other projects. Hardinge HLV looks like a dream machine. But again, whatever I get have to go down stairs. I am limited to about 1000lb and 30 inch wide so safe movers can get it into the basement...

Copper here, and it's inside a wall. I used blue (gas rated?) 3/4 pipe. I have it going to 2 garages and basement. Air access from anywhere :)

Decided on Saber and they arrived today. They gave me a discount, all in all OK. Boxes came like on a pictures, but I pulled few pieces to check and they all good. Steel is pretty thick and strong. Of course will know more after removing all, but it does look like all good.

How is leveling achieved with factory stand? Via adjustable feet and via shims?

I don't, I knew that, I heard that, I guess it's a triple-warning now. On a side note - I need to move it to basement. "Depth" of the crate 30 inches, should fit vertically through the door. I plan to hire safe movers, 1000lb should be no problem for those guys. Any issues with getting lathe...

Why?

Shims is what bothers me. I feel like once you start using shims - all rigidity you built in goes out of the window..

Not toolbox I thought about, but this looks along lines of what I think. Does it look sturdy enough though?

I understand what you mean. How do commercial lathe tables work? From what I can tell you only level by legs, not "top"

Then maybe some kind of metal frame (custom built) where I can pour 4-6in concrete top? I am 6'1" tall, little taller is OK. I can just place toolbox under top which will be bolted to the floor.

I am not necessary wanting to fabricate something. My main dilemma is space use. I'd rather have storage under lathe since I am not working sitting, and there is a lot of tooling/etc. Tool box under lathe makes sense to me.

I am thinking about getting lathe. I got rid of my 9x20, because of basement refinish and no space. Now that I am close to getting this done I am thinking which lathe to get. Thinking this: https://www.precisionmatthews.com/shop/pm-1340gt/ BTW, if you have anything to say about it - please do...