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    Ordering a red iron steel building, what to NOT forget?

    I'm looking at something in a similar size(30' or 45' wide) but I'm still in the research mode on who to buy from. I'm curious what pushed you toward Olympia and Heritage? Watching thread for more info.
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    Your claim of interior walls all being load bearing just proves you don't know a damn thing. You are the ****** who started the argument. How about you support YOUR argument with facts? Obviously, you have not a single fact. Take a hike and let the adults talk. Again, you are a non-value...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Pretty much. This is actually first person on Garage that I've run into that is one of the forum know-it-all asshats with no supporting info/facts.
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    A house and a shop are NOT totally different things. They are buildings. The interior is the only difference. There is nothing special about a house truss or a shop truss. Actually I DO know how heavy it will be down to the static load per square foot. Where have you provided ANY facts in...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    Hmm... I guess people hundreds of years ago with NO steel ever build an earth-build structure. In your "expert" opinion, it is obviously impossible to do without some "SERIOUS" steel. I've at least talked with one person who is in the middle of the process and an architect over the process...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    As has been mentioned, I've been told by two people that the costs are similar between buried vs stick framed. One in the wrong state(TX vs my CA) and one in my county. I can see costs getting VERY similar(I've done a fair bit of construction and estimations in the past): Digging - in my case...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    This was my concern also... not that the "structure" would be expensive but that the engineering costs would be VERY expensive. Thus I was VERY shocked when I was told costs were consistent with stick build of same size. I don't care to go metal frame. It is about security and I would...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    The added bonus for my location is I do get snow. This year, I got three 1' storms since January. I think the design is the challenge. For cooling, my location doesn't get "too" bad. Usually 90s in the summer. For heat, I think that becomes a challenge with a large building:wtf: I'm not...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    Nice... that is what I somewhat worried about. When you say power trip stuff, are you talking about: 'The plan called for 12" nailing in the field, here is one that is 12.25"' Except when the driveway points directly at the corral spot :( I won't say it hasn't to be hidden. But if the cost...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    I'm still in the "what am I getting into phase" so if costs get too unreasonable, I go traditional. As for a view out the buried garage, here is an example of what I'd get: This was taken off the NE corner of the house in the picture above.
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    Please keep in mind, I'm talking about digging into a hill side then covering. I'm not talking about digging a 20' pit:o I've had two people tell me the earth-build was on par with stick build costs. I was very skeptical when it was first a guy from Texas. My architect in the area confirmed...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    The leaks is a concern for me. Mostly from killing equipment and boxed parts. Shouldn't hurt vehicles on floor ;) I think the engineering for the roof may not be too big of a deal. The impression I get from fully buried structures is they are "only" 2-3 foot down. I'd rather not have 2-3...
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    Yes, I'm thinking totally buried with dirt and debris on top.:o From the initial reading I've done so far(30 minutes;) ), it sounds like membrane type technology is doing pretty well. It sounds like behind wall is typical retaining wall drainage techniques.
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    Earth-build garages, what do you know?

    Title somewhat states it but for more information and pictures, here we go: I'm in the VERY initial planning stages of a stand alone shop... mostly spit balling ideas to see what I can pull off. I'm a bit concerned with leaving a "large" shop out in the open. On another web page, a guy brought...
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    Is it worth it to upgrade R19 to R30 insulation?

    Sorry to piggy back on this with no useful info to add :sad: I've got a similar issue as the OP with my attic and the below stuck out to me. When you say roof rafters, are you talking closer to the roof sheathing? Or are you talking closer to the ceiling? My current setup is blown...
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    Metal vs Wood Cabinets & Benches

    I prefer metal. I went the "cheap" route and bought a BUNCH of used gym/school lockers at ~$75 per 3 foot(3 doors). Each "door" is 12" wide, 18" deep, and 60" tall. I spent ~$450 to fill up one side of my garage. I'm in the process of fabbing my own shelves inside... some with sliders. I...
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    Looking for recommendations for attic lighting

    Thanks for all the input. It definitely gave me some ideas. I think what I'm going to look into is a "clamp light" like this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-75-Watt-Incandescent-Clamp-Light-CE-200PDQ/100354513 I am looking at putting a total of four in the attic on outlets spaced 10 foot...
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    Looking for recommendations for attic lighting

    Good point on the cold weather part. I'm in the Sierra foothills and it does get cold. Looks like I should consider plain incandescent lamps. The exposed keyless lamp holders worries me a little bit because room is a bit tight in the attic and I'd worry about either burning myself on one or...
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    Looking for recommendations for attic lighting

    Title states it but to expand a bit. Quick house info: House was built in the 40s/50s and is ~50 foot long and ~14 feet deep(funky shape for 700 square foot) The roof is a plain gable roof for the full 50 foot. No hips or valleys. I'm in the process of doing a full house rewire and want to...
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    How to prop open a wall mounted foldable workbench?

    transplant_wi, thank you for taking the time to snap some pictures. How much weight do you think your setup would take? I'm now back to considering the chains.:eyecrazy:
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