I think it is discontinuedI think it is replaced by the tiawan one on the other thread.
Correct and hence why they are on eBay.
Still under Proto's lifetime warranty, though.
Proto big dawg on Ebay for $10.00!!
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Correct and hence why they are on eBay.
Still under Proto's lifetime warranty, though.
lbgradwell
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Thanks for posting this!
I just grabbed 2 of these (as S&H for the second one was 1 cent) & I'll have them delivered to my buddy in MI (since delivery to Canada is often prohibitively expensive). When he comes to visit next time, I'll sell the 2nd ratchet locally for ~$25, thereby getting mine for essentially free!
I don't really need this ratchet either, but, well, you know...
By the way, there is only one remaining, so act fast if you want it!
lbgradwell
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Hmmm... I just took a closer look (after I bought 2 of these things) and I actually believe these ratchets have a 6.8* arc swing.
I think the Seller was a bit lazy and copied the text from the Proto site for the J5249 ratchet which has a 24-tooth design, or a 15* sweep.
However, if you look closely at the picture provided in the auction, you will notice that the model being sold is actually the 5249P! An older catalogue shows this model to have been a 45-tooth "floating pawl" design, which, for some reason, translates to a 6.8* sweep (rather than the expected 8*)!
Excellent...
The Proto Big Dawg Ratchet design features a floating pawl. Contact is made
with nine-pawl teeth engaging with nine gear teeth, dispersing the
torque over a greater distance. The thumb operated directional switching
mechanism shifts the pawl within it's cavity making it easier to go from
the loosening function to the tightening function. The 6.8º arc swing and
slim pear-head design enables use in tight spaces.
3/8" DRIVE BIG DAWG
STANDARD LENGTH PEAR HEAD RATCHET
• 45 tooth gear/floating pawl design for small 6.8°arc swing.
• 13% smaller head for access in tight work areas.
• Reversing lever designed for quick, one hand operation.
with nine-pawl teeth engaging with nine gear teeth, dispersing the
torque over a greater distance. The thumb operated directional switching
mechanism shifts the pawl within it's cavity making it easier to go from
the loosening function to the tightening function. The 6.8º arc swing and
slim pear-head design enables use in tight spaces.
3/8" DRIVE BIG DAWG
STANDARD LENGTH PEAR HEAD RATCHET
• 45 tooth gear/floating pawl design for small 6.8°arc swing.
• 13% smaller head for access in tight work areas.
• Reversing lever designed for quick, one hand operation.
In either case, this ratchet is powerful. The grip on fasteners is amazing. It's so solid it sometimes feels like I'm using a breaker bar instead.
I liked the regular 3/8" BD so much I bought:
3/8" long plastic handle
3/8" regular plastic handle
1/2" long plastic handle
1/4" plastic handle
I liked the regular 3/8" BD so much I bought:
3/8" long plastic handle
3/8" regular plastic handle
1/2" long plastic handle
1/4" plastic handle
tbgallant
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Nice! Thanks for clearing that up Ibgradwell! I just e-mailed a few sellers on ebay to see if they'll ship to Canada. Fingers crossed.
Thanks
Tim
Thanks
Tim
lbgradwell
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No sweat, Tim.
You'll find many (most, actually) US-based Sellers will ship to Canada... It's just that S&H can be expensive (Canada Post's fault, not USPS) and then you'll have to deal with Customs and duties for purchases over $15 (or maybe $25 - can't recall). That means the wrenches that cost you $16 can end up costing $40 by the time you get them in your door!
If you buy something used for under the $15 amount, make sure you have the Seller write the amount of the Winning Bid (not incl. S&H) as the Declared Value and describe the item; you'll be harrassed less.
And never, ever bid on an item where UPS is the only delivery option. They are infamous "duty" extortionists and I'd LOVE to see them go out of business!
tbgallant
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Ya I've had the same experiences LB, I find USPS airmail on smaller items not too bad though. You shoulda got 3 on your order to your buddy and then just sent it Canada Post to me, doh! =) Next time, ha (actually, drop me a PM next time you do something like this, we can split the shipping costs or something).
Tim
Tim
Cool. That is a pretty tight swing. Might have to reconsider now... Thanks.Hmmm... I just took a closer look (after I bought 2 of these things) and I actually believe these ratchets have a 6.8* arc swing.
I think the Seller was a bit lazy and copied the text from the Proto site for the J5249 ratchet which has a 24-tooth design, or a 15* sweep.
However, if you look closely at the picture provided in the auction, you will notice that the model being sold is actually the 5249P! An older catalogue shows this model to have been a 45-tooth "floating pawl" design, which, for some reason, translates to a 6.8* sweep (rather than the expected 8*)!
Excellent...
The Proto Big Dawg Ratchet design features a floating pawl. Contact is made
with nine-pawl teeth engaging with nine gear teeth, dispersing the
torque over a greater distance. The thumb operated directional switching
mechanism shifts the pawl within it's cavity making it easier to go from
the loosening function to the tightening function. The 6.8º arc swing and
slim pear-head design enables use in tight spaces.
3/8" DRIVE BIG DAWG
STANDARD LENGTH PEAR HEAD RATCHET
• 45 tooth gear/floating pawl design for small 6.8°arc swing.
• 13% smaller head for access in tight work areas.
• Reversing lever designed for quick, one hand operation.
Edit: They are all gone now!
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MAD
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Cool. That is a pretty tight swing. Might have to reconsider now... Thanks.
Edit: They are all gone now!
Sorry dude, I got the last one. The peer pressure was just too much for me. I think I have crossed the ratchet user/ratchet collector line.
JRGSPE73
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The 1/2" drive Big Dawg is on e-bay for $14.95 + s/h (not mine). 12 available.
http://cgi.ebay.com/PROTO-5449P-1-2IN-RATCHET-NEW_W0QQitemZ200189093056QQihZ010QQcategoryZ303QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[EDIT]:
And there's a 3/8" Big Dawg for $10
http://cgi.ebay.com/PROTO-3-8-RATCHET-5249P-NEW_W0QQitemZ110211347408QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20773QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/PROTO-5449P-1-2IN-RATCHET-NEW_W0QQitemZ200189093056QQihZ010QQcategoryZ303QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[EDIT]:
And there's a 3/8" Big Dawg for $10
http://cgi.ebay.com/PROTO-3-8-RATCHET-5249P-NEW_W0QQitemZ110211347408QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20773QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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mulepackin
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I was just gonna say, once you get a 3/8", then you'll have to find a 1/2", and then if you are like some of the rest of us you'll end up looking (with great difficulty) for a 1/4". Just speaking from personal experience. Like them all real well though.
lbgradwell
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Thanks for this tip! Just grabbed 2 of these too (with the same strategy as before)... There are still 10 left...
For anyone (like me, probably) looking for a 1/4" version, they can be had for US$11.95 here. In fact, this guy has multiples of all 3 sizes in stock, but his prices are higher...
Keep a eye on ebay, There is black finished ones on there.
Chris Adams
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Hi, in the other thread on Proto there is a link to a big PDF.
Pictures and part numbers are down the page .
http://www.blackhawkbyproto.com/xhtml/literature/ProtoNewProducts_P20635.pdf
It’s mainly about the new ratchets but it also has the older big dog ratchets.
I just bought a ½ and 3/8 but they are not here yet.
I went with the older style, cheaper and look pretty heavy.
Cheap on e-bay.
I paid 50 bucks plus shipping for the two long handle units
J5450 is more what you want, I think.
Pictures and part numbers are down the page .
http://www.blackhawkbyproto.com/xhtml/literature/ProtoNewProducts_P20635.pdf
It’s mainly about the new ratchets but it also has the older big dog ratchets.
I just bought a ½ and 3/8 but they are not here yet.
I went with the older style, cheaper and look pretty heavy.
Cheap on e-bay.
I paid 50 bucks plus shipping for the two long handle units
J5450 is more what you want, I think.
lbgradwell
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5450P for a 1/2"-drive with a 16" length.
5450PF for the same thing with a flex head...
Thanks for the info, found a few on ebay, only BIN so far are these for $27 shipped, which is just enough for me to give the swap meet a day or so of looking first.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270201075378
I think I am going to need a bigger box soon.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270201075378
I think I am going to need a bigger box soon.
Thanks for the info, found a few on ebay, only BIN so far are these for $27 shipped, which is just enough for me to give the swap meet a day or so of looking first.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270201075378
I think I am going to need a bigger box soon.
Danglerb,
Do you have any of these yet? If not I'm sure you are going to like them.
That looks like a custom finished knurling, probably in response to another thread where concerns of aggressive knurling hurting the hands were expressed.
Its only been 35 minutes, give me a little time to get one.
I have a standard length 1/2" drive Proto, and a slightly long 3/8" as well as a standard 3/8" I do like the feel of the 5249P, very solid ratchet motion, but for 1/4" I want a TINY head like the Mac Microtouch I have has, and I just bought the FHLF80, so pretty much all I want is a long handle 1/2" at this point for the times when a breaker bar isn't convenient.
Fedwrench
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270201075378
The pictures in the Ebay item listed above are of two different ratchets. The number stamped on the ratchet plate doesn't match the number listed in the auction.
The pictures in the Ebay item listed above are of two different ratchets. The number stamped on the ratchet plate doesn't match the number listed in the auction.
Chris Adams
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Yeah but it is probably just a 'stock' photo.
Look at his feedback.
Dang, I think I paid too much for the set I just bought.
Oh well, E-bay for you.
paramudduck
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I have a 5450PBL probably one of the handiest ratchets I have.
lbgradwell
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I'm pretty sure it's the other way around; the photo is the actual product you will receive, while the description is "stock". Just like above, the Seller is selling an older model ratchet, while he swiped the description (and model number) of the current ratchet from the website...
Fedwrench
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Yeah, but in the world of buyer beware Ebay, accuracy is important. One ratchet has 52 teeh while the other has 24. It's important to know what I'm buying up front to prevent disappointment later.
lbgradwell
Well-known member
That's true! Worth an email to the Seller for sure, but it certainly makes more sense that these eBay people are discounting a discontinued product...
gotmud13613
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It IS a sickness. I already have a drawer full of plomb and proto ratchets but I kept reading this thread and couldn't withstand the temptation!
Same buyer had 7 more up on a new auction.tbgallant
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Anybody looking to get one of these willing to add another for the $1 extra shipping and then ship it to me in Canada? Seller won't ship to Canada and I really want one of these!
I can paypal the money upfront of course.
Thanks (can PM if you'd like)
Tim
I can paypal the money upfront of course.
Thanks (can PM if you'd like)
Tim
Jay H 237
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The two I ordered came this week. Man, these are nice ratchets!!! They have a much more hefty and solid feel than the Craftsman and SK ratchets I have already.
tbgallant
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Could it be that everybody on the garagejournal who wants one already has one??
Can anybody suggest a different source/seller that might have these for sale for $10 (or even $15 is they have reasonable shipping).
Tim
Can anybody suggest a different source/seller that might have these for sale for $10 (or even $15 is they have reasonable shipping).
Tim
Could it be that everybody on the garagejournal who wants one already has one??
Can anybody suggest a different source/seller that might have these for sale for $10 (or even $15 is they have reasonable shipping).
Tim
See above.
tbgallant
Well-known member
Thanks BMW but that seller is the one that won't ship to Canada
I was hoping to either find somebody in the US that wants one and is willing to partner up with me so I can get one as well, or find a different seller who is willing to ship to Canada..
Tim
I was hoping to either find somebody in the US that wants one and is willing to partner up with me so I can get one as well, or find a different seller who is willing to ship to Canada..
Tim
gainera2582
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well I jumped on the bandwagon. Ordered two of these.
So, what is the part number for the ratchet? Is it the 24 or 45 tooth?The two I ordered came this week. Man, these are nice ratchets!!! They have a much more hefty and solid feel than the Craftsman and SK ratchets I have already.
eschoendorff
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I bought one too... like I need another ratchet! I just had to see what all teh fuss was about....