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Thomas,

I've been plugging away steadily reading this post for about the past two months, and I'm still only up to the part about Earl Hale! So much... so, so much... Taking a deep breath and diving back in.

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I looked up a few of those Thexton tools on ...bay. Some interesting and handy things, such as Thexton Door Sanity Tool (might just need one of those some day) and other things to get buried in the tool box or shed. I won't complain about his "stuff" if he doesn't complain about mine (I hope to never be prone to be a complainer... I would drive me and Tom crazy!).
 

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Terry, one of the sons wanted it so before I even closed on the property I knew it was going to another home. That's probably why I don't have many pictures of it. It's at a home about 6 miles from the shop. There is a previous post somewhere back there giving those details. Good guess things like that will be on the "fabled thread test" so you might want to do a little review work. :dunno:

BTW, I haven't forgotten your Kingswood and other pictures, trying to keep my head above water with all my work here. I did manage to finish a Corvette project today finally. I've been posting about it on another forum since it's kind of Corvette specific but I'll get some highlights of it on here that might be interesting.

Thomas

Thomas, ALL of your projects are interesting :). Keep up the good work and post stuff like you always do, it will be a winner :rocker:
 

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markviii I just got this in the mail.. Congratulations on making the cover

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I was out at Mothers and found this in the barn and thought I would post a picture of it so Tomas could see if it is the same model as the one he found in one of the sheds.
 

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The cover surprised me too! I think that picture was taken at the LCOC meet in 2008 in Columbus, OH, where the Mark VIII won it's fifth emeritus award on it's first time going through the Emeritus class. The other two opportunities would have been in 2011 in Pontiac, MI, or in 2012 in Chattanooga, TN, going through the Emeritus class a second time. Three more Emeritus to earn to win another Crystal Trophy. The LCOC will not allow anyone else to go through Emeritus twice other than 8 of us who started already, so we have the possibility of getting the last Crystal Trophys if we go to the required # of shows and make our 97/100 points before the end of 2015.

I don't recognize the background on the picture, so I really can't place when it was taken. Tom probably knows because he and the photographer conspired on this one.

Thanks for posting in - hope all your Lincoln's are being taken care of!

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markviii I just got this in the mail.. Congratulations on making the cover

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I was out at Mothers and found this in the barn and thought I would post a picture of it so Tomas could see if it is the same model as the one he found in one of the sheds.

Sharp eyes there dcm5652, you made Chris's day! Here's some background about it.


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This was indeed 2008 in Columbus, OH and sweet Chris had finally reached her goal after many years, of being awarded the Lincoln Presidents Emeritus Crystal Bowl for her beloved Mark VIII. The awards banquet was in the evening and she was requested to have her car photographed the following morning. I've been around our Lincoln clubs photographer long enough to know the first light of the day is the best. Understand I love my wife heart and soul so to get the best possible picture of her car meant I had to get up before 0500 in the morning to get the car prepped and ready for the photographer for that short moment when the light is perfect and the car would be in place and all ready to go. Until then it's just waiting around for the sun so I told Chris to wait in our room, I'd call her when it was getting close. This was an opportunity I didn't want to lose because I dropped the ball. That cover shot was done while we were waiting for the proper light so it's a tad dark...

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...once he was happy with the light, this is the shot he took for the keeper. From the time I started my day until this moment was about 2 hours or so but those are the things you do for your sweetie! What I remember most about this was all the dew I had to keep repeatedly wiping off and drying the whole car and wheels several times so it would be ready. I went through about 5 towels before we finally took the shot. Fast forward to a couple of months ago, I was contacted about using one of the pictures from that photo shoot for our club's directory cover this year. I knew Chris wouldn't mind but I swore them to secrecy to make sure she would't find out ahead of time. :D dcm5652 you'll also note on the inside cover it denotes only her as the owner. As for me.......well I'm just the hired help. ;)

Now about your chainsaw...

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...it looks like a very close match to...

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...the one left. I'll take look tomorrow at the data plate and let you know.

One more thing, I finally got the last hydraulic line done and picked them all up from Ricks this morning. The powder coating looks terrific! Re-assemble starts tomorrow so watch this space for an update. Whew!!

Thomas
 
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Just finished reading "Beltsville Shell". Just have to say that I truly enjoyed it. The author is a generation ahead of me (as I'm 42) but I miss the glory days of old muscle cars.

To whomever would like to read it next, please PM me and I will pay it forward.
 

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Just finished reading "Beltsville Shell". Just have to say that I truly enjoyed it. The author is a generation ahead of me (as I'm 42) but I miss the glory days of old muscle cars.

To whomever would like to read it next, please PM me and I will pay it forward.

I'm game, sounds like good reading.
 

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Tom is sooo great at keeping my car clean. He is much better than I am at cleaning (surprise, surprise!). It may be my car, but he does the detail stuff to give it that extra glow!

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OK, I really have been working out at the shop and barn. I've just been too busy to have time to post about all that's going on. Today was no different, I'm wrapping up a 17 hour day and I'm pretty tired so I'll just post a few pictures of some of the latest goings on out at the old shop and call it a day.

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Details to follow, but yes, it's all vintage and it all works. Thanks everyone.

A very tired Thomas
 

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Now I need to go upstairs in the attic and see if I still have the original D/X town and country credit card imprint machine we had sitting on the back desk next to the adding machine at my Dads gas station when I go visit mom, If found I will have to see if I can take it to send to you I am not sure what year they started credit cards but if its there I can't think of a better home for it!!
 
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I'm game, sounds like good reading.

clarke212, I'm very confident you'll enjoy the book. A simple story for simpler times and filled with fun, especially for those who lived in those times. Might I suggest that whenever the book is sent to another member, whoever sends it please post the receiving members Garage Journal name here so we can keep track of where it was "last". If it winds up staying with someone for a while with no takers, then just use the self addressed stamped envelope and mail it back to me please.

For anyone sitting on the fence about reading it, I've yet to hear of anyone who didn't think it was fun and worth a few hours of their time. Thanks everyone.

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That's cool. The old phone-fan..adding machine.. step back in time :)

Something I've never forgotten is that the old shop was a business first and foremost. He, his sons and others earned their living out there.

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You might remember Mr Johnson's office was a real mess by the time I purchased the property...

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... and there wasn't too much left in the way of his old bookkeeping material.


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I've found a few items...

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...that reflect the business aspect of the shop and wanted to display them in an appropriate setting. Some shop equipment like the lift, date from the late 1920's and continues to the 1980's.

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So does does some of the office material as well.

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So yes, in a way, walking into the shop is a step back into time. I have more.

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Now I need to go upstairs in the attic and see if I still have the original D/X town and country credit card imprint machine we had sitting on the back desk next to the adding machine at my Dads gas station when I go visit mom, If found I will have to see if I can take it to send to you I am not sure what year they started credit cards but if its there I can't think of a better home for it!!

gordyy, that could be very cool indeed. Thank you for thinking of me and the old shop. :thumbup: I'm replicating not only what was in the shop but what dozens of old auto repair shops had for an "office" back in the day. They usually had an eclectic mix of old office furniture and office supplies most of which were manually operated like the old Remington Rand hand crank adding machine.

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That one dates from the late 1920's and works like new, though the ribbon prints a little faded. Our local Philo Bank had some hand crank adding machines still in use as late as the 1970's and the previous bank president still used his manual typewriter until he retire in the 1990's. His feeling was it always worked so why change it. I think Mr Johnson shared that same philosophy. ;)

Thomas
 

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I havent made the trip over to Mom's yet will do it next week it was one of the original old ones was there when dad got the station in the mid 60s it had sliding arms to set a price and date to imprint the copies of the credit card stuff, if its still there we will find it might even have some forms with it dad never threw anything away LOL
 

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Thomas, I've been reading since the start, so page 335 seems like a good place to jump in. You've inspired me to be more patient with my finishing details. Im an all-go no-show racer normally. I've started using this new found patience by restoring bench vises and building shop tables thanks to your thread, but now I picked up a vintage fan very similar to yours for my office.

Did you restore yours? Everything on mine works, but for safety I should re-wire it and/or give it a new cord, and Id like to re-paint (or powdercoat!) as well, so I'd be interested in hearing any tips/pitfalls if you've taken on a similar project.

Mark
 

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Wow, I have an identical fan (220v version) in my workshop. Found it many years ago, got it going and it has done stirling duty every summer although cosmetically it now needs attention. I would be keen to hear how you refurbished yours. Now that i think of it, I should have a similar looking gold coloured one somewhere as well. Regards Stretch
 
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Wow, I have an identical fan (220v version) in my workshop. Found it many years ago, got it going and it has done stirling duty every summer although cosmetically it now needs attention. I would be keen to hear how you refurbished yours. Now that i think of it, I should have a similar looking gold coloured one somewhere as well. Regards Stretch

Greetings.:rocker:
 
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Thomas, I've been reading since the start, so page 335 seems like a good place to jump in. You've inspired me to be more patient with my finishing details. Im an all-go no-show racer normally. I've started using this new found patience by restoring bench vises and building shop tables thanks to your thread, but now I picked up a vintage fan very similar to yours for my office.

Did you restore yours? Everything on mine works, but for safety I should re-wire it and/or give it a new cord, and Id like to re-paint (or powdercoat!) as well, so I'd be interested in hearing any tips/pitfalls if you've taken on a similar project.

Mark

If Thomas touch it. it has been power-coated ! lol and looks nice

Wow, I have an identical fan (220v version) in my workshop. Found it many years ago, got it going and it has done stirling duty every summer although cosmetically it now needs attention. I would be keen to hear how you refurbished yours. Now that i think of it, I should have a similar looking gold coloured one somewhere as well. Regards Stretch

Hello to you Mark and many thanks for your multi year interest in the shop and this thread. Very dedicated! All I've ever tried to do here is show and explain what I've done and why and if some, such as yourself, can take something positive from that so much the better. :)

My fan was made in 1941 and is a General Electric Standard Desk Model with 16" (40.6 cm) blades.

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It has three fan speeds and has a 3 position oscillator. It operates smoothly and at low speed is whisper quiet.

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It's all original except for a new vintage, cloth covered power cord and the fan blades and cage have been repainted (not powder coated, surprise! :eek:), the base and motor housing is all exceptionally nice, original finish. If your motor wires don't show any signs of cracked insulation, without seeing it, you might need only replace the power cord. Search the net, there several sources for authentic looking cloth covered power cords. Since this one was so original I'm sorry I can't really offer any other words of wisdom for what yours might need other than: clean and lubricate any moving parts, look closely for signs of cracked or broken wire insulation. If you feel the motor brushes or switch are gunky I use Deoxit D5,

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electrical cleaner. It's magic when it comes to cleaning anything electrical. :thumbup: If you do paint anything...

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clean it well before hand and perhaps use a Prep Sol or similar metal clener on the bare metal prior to painting. It should be a fun, rewarding project for you. Good luck and keep us posted on how it goes and thanks again for all those years of interest here.

Hello to you also Stretch. So you have a 220V powered version of that fan huh? I'd be interested in taking a look at that. Those old vintage pieces of equipment were truly rugged weren't they? They could take a licking and keep on ticking! Mine on the desk weighs in at around 18lbs (8 kg) and I expect it to continue operating flawlessly for decades to come with proper care. I'll get some more detailed pictures of mine on here.

Thomas
 

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They sure don't make'em like that any more! :thumbup:

That GE fan is a fine example of when quality, craftsmanship and reliability all came with a product and you actually got your money's worth!

Beautiful fan!

The quality on 99% of products sold today has been left out indefinitely! :sad:


Hello to you Mark and many thanks for your multi year interest in the shop and this thread. Very dedicated! All I've ever tried to do here is show and explain what I've done and why and if some, such as yourself, can take something positive from that so much the better. :)

My fan was made in 1941 and is a General Electric Standard Desk Model with 16" (40.6 cm) blades.

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It has three fan speeds and has a 3 position oscillator. It operates smoothly and at low speed is whisper quiet.

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It's all original except for a new vintage, cloth covered power cord and the fan blades and cage have been repainted (not powder coated, surprise! :eek:), the base and motor housing is all exceptionally nice, original finish. If your motor wires don't show any signs of cracked insulation, without seeing it, you might need only replace the power cord. Search the net, there several sources for authentic looking cloth covered power cords. Since this one was so original I'm sorry I can't really offer any other words of wisdom for what yours might need other than: clean and lubricate any moving parts, look closely for signs of cracked or broken wire insulation. If you feel the motor brushes or switch are gunky I use Deoxit D5,

http://www.caig.com/

electrical cleaner. It's magic when it comes to cleaning anything electrical. :thumbup: If you do paint anything...

IMG_1982.jpg


clean it well before hand and perhaps use a Prep Sol or similar metal clener on the bare metal prior to painting. It should be a fun, rewarding project for you. Good luck and keep us posted on how it goes and thanks again for all those years of interest here.

Hello to you also Stretch. So you have a 220V powered version of that fan huh? I'd be interested in taking a look at that. Those old vintage pieces of equipment were truly rugged weren't they? They could take a licking and keep on ticking! Mine on the desk weighs in at around 18lbs (8 kg) and I expect it to continue operating flawlessly for decades to come with proper care. I'll get some more detailed pictures of mine on here.

Thomas
 
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I have a similar vintage fan, however mine is a Westinghouse Electric. Not sure when it was manufactured, but a sticker on it indicates it was converted to 60 cycle from 25 cycle, and in Toronto that was 1949! This fan originally belonged to my grandfather, and it hasn't been restored, but still runs like new!
 

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I have a similar vintage fan, however mine is a Westinghouse Electric. Not sure when it was manufactured, but a sticker on it indicates it was converted to 60 cycle from 25 cycle, and in Toronto that was 1949! This fan originally belonged to my grandfather, and it hasn't been restored, but still runs like new!

Very nice Sledneck, it looks to be from the same era. If nothing else I hope this thread has shown that older equipment, tools and such should be valued for the wonderful qualities they have and in many cases are far superior to their modern day counterparts. If you come across a treasure original, service it and maintain it, or if it needs some work done to bring it back from the dead, that's an effort well worth undertaking. It might be cheaper or easier to just discard old "stuff" in need, but restoring or preserving older items has it's own rewards. :)

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Here's a Corvette project I've recently finished that has been detailed on another forum but I'll share some highlights here. There is some material that has greater application than just servicing a seat for a Corvette.

The drivers seat didn't move and wouldn't stay latched in position to my satisfaction so I decided this winter to solve the problem. I doubted that it had any service work in the last 45+ years so to begin...



...I removed all the upholstery to leave the bare seat frame. The factory never puts much paint on areas like this which are unseen. In time that paint will break down and the exposed metal will begin to rust. It's worse in a convertible car which at times can get caught in the rain with the top down which will soak the carpet and create a very humid environment for the seat metal. Here is the seat frame is viewed upside down.



The seat latch mechanism (there are 2, one on each side) and seat tracks were all gummed up with decades old dirt and dried out grease.



Additionally there were broken parts like these seat bushing springs and latch return springs that were distorted so they wouldn't put proper tension on the latches.



Some of the problems with the seat not latching properly are due to the return springs not putting proper tension on the latches (circled yellow) and the seat notches themselves (circled blue) which had a build up of old grease and debris keeping the lever from fully engaging the track notch. Cleaning and lubricating would help but there is more to it than just that.



A bit of a surprise was finding how poor quality the factory spot welds were and that most were either cracked or broken.



Here is one side of the seat frame with all those spot welds repaired. Once this was all done the seat frame was remarkably more rigid and stronger.



The metal is thin so if you're going to MIG weld use the lowest setting and just use a momentary spot. Better still is TIG welding (results seen here) which gives greater control and localized heat to minimize warping the frame.



There were also a couple of tapped screw holes that were stripped so they were filled, drilled and then...



...re-tapped as seen.



Both latch levers had some wear. That notch was worn into this lever, it shouldn't even be there. So a piece of aluminum was used on the backside of the notch to back up the notch and it was then TIG filled with metal. The new metal won't attach to the aluminum as this was done.



After the new metal filled in the notch, it was reground and filed to shape. Both of the latches were thus repaired.



With all those repairs done, all the various parts were prepared for new paint by removing the old paint and rust...





...and then painted. This was done in the winter so I used the heat from my house boiler (seen in the background) to help dry the paint. Powder coating might have caused some clearance problems with the moving parts plus I didn't really need the durability of powder coating. Priming and painting will be plenty durable enough in this application.

This is the end of Part 1. To be continued.

Thomas
 
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Continuing now with Part II of the seat frame repair and refurbishment.





After painting and prior to re-assembly, the seat frame track tubes...



... were cleaned using emery cloth and a wood dowel to move the emery cloth in the tube. This is the area the seat bushing will have contact and move in, so I wanted this tube very smooth inside...



...and clean. I kept using multiple paper towels soaked with mineral spirits to clean out all the old debris the emery cloth removed until the towels came out clean.



To lubricate all the moving parts on seats I like to use a dry graphite. It doesn't harden or get gummy nor will it attract dirt.



Here the dry graphite was been applied to the seat track tubes...



...then the bushings and bushing retainers were installed...



...after which the bushings were sprayed with dry graphite.



Here's a comparison between the old seat hardware and the new.



The new bushing springs were installed...



...the seat latch lever moving parts were liberally lubricated with dry graphite and the new return springs installed.




Installing the seat springs will scratch the new paint in places so that in turn was touched up to prevent the bare metal from rusting again. It's the little details that matter, don't you think? ;)



One of the last steps was to install the seat track retainers...



...screwing into the previously repaired and tapped holes. I did substitute the original screws for stainless steel ones. That will make removing them in the future much easier.



Here then, is the seat frame all cleaned, repaired, painted, lubricated...



... and with the upholstery reinstalled ready for another 45+ years of use.



It is truly amazing how much work was involved to refurbish something you don't even see or give much thought to. But that seat now glides as smooth as a baby's backside, latches firmly and stays put. :thumbup:

Thanks again everyone for all your support and interest. There is more coming this way.

Thomas
 
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great job on the seat repair Thomas should last another 45 yrs or a lot more!!

I was at my Mothers house went checking for the old credit card machine I am a couple years out of date, She gave it to a family friend who is active in a mueseum somewhere in minnesota, they have an old gas station set up and it went to them. I tried to get something of here to the center of the universe just was short on this one.
Now can we ship anybody out there some snow we are to get 12 inches or so this weekend! Last year I was out mowing grass for the second time on this weekend LOL
 

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Thomas, nice job on the car seat restoration. If I ever need to restore mine, I'll know exactly where to go for an illustrated instruction guide. Well done.

Jim C.
 

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Man, I can't help think that most people would leave the seat springs in place for painting.

Your attention to detail is astonishing. (And I'll bet those final paper towels that you used to clean the tubular tracks were very clean indeed!)

Thanks for sharing your photos!
 
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great job on the seat repair Thomas should last another 45 yrs or a lot more!!

I was at my Mothers house went checking for the old credit card machine I am a couple years out of date, She gave it to a family friend who is active in a mueseum somewhere in minnesota, they have an old gas station set up and it went to them. I tried to get something of here to the center of the universe just was short on this one.
Now can we ship anybody out there some snow we are to get 12 inches or so this weekend! Last year I was out mowing grass for the second time on this weekend LOL

Well many thanks for trying anyway gordyy. It sounds like it found a good home and that's what is important. If you don't mind, I'll pass on the snow thank you very much just the same. And speaking of snow...



...if you look faintly in the distance that tinge of green is where my first crop of alfalfa has sprouted. Two weeks ago this field was covered with 8" - 12" (20-30 cm) of snow. I left a week ago to fly a couple of trips and came home to 3" (7 cm) alfalfa sprouts. :)

7 months ago the grass on the field side of the hedge row looked like this...




... and yesterday...



... it's coming in nicely. I also mowed it for the first time yesterday. Give it a full year to fill in some more and I'd say I'm well on my way. It's all coming together.

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Thomas, nice job on the car seat restoration. If I ever need to restore mine, I'll know exactly where to go for an illustrated instruction guide. Well done.

Jim C.

Thank you Jim. If you're going to do specific mid-year Corvette seats I can send you a link for a more detailed post I did on that project on another forum.

Haven't forgotten about the wood shop pictures either. ;)

Thomas
 

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Tom has a green thumb; I do not. The grass is looking like it's been there longer than 7 months (but, how time does fly!). I can almost not remember raking all that seed in (or even the 3 acres worth on the first 5-acres 7 years ago(?)) already.

Chris
 

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Great progress on all fronts. Landscaping is a joy for me and a green thumb is not necessary, because, if it was, I'd be out of luck!

In looking at the seat restoration, I was shocked to see the level of rust on the seat frames for my 356 project. I'll have more on that aspect posted in my thread a little later on.

Just a note to say that I thoroughly enjoy my time reading about all that happens at your home/shop/garage.

Best,

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Very nice work indeed :)

Hello there Ted and thank you for the kind words. I see you are from Bakersfield. Take a close look...



...at the LP vinyl record album covers hanging on the wall over my desk. Also note the triangle shaped trophy sitting on the back of the Pepsi machine.



The circled LP album cover is titled Bakersfield '64 which a recording of the 1964 Fuel and Gas Championships drag race meet held in..........Bakersfield, California. Yes, it's just a recording of the sounds of the cars and dragsters at the drag strip as they ran down the track. A friend of mine happened to spot that album cover hanging on the wall while he was at the shop a couple of years ago. That in turn leads us to the odd shaped trophy which...



...upon closer inspection...



... happens to be a Championship trophy from the 1965 Fuel and Gas Championships meet held at Bakersfield and won by my buddy...



...Norm Cowdrey seen here last year, 2012, in his vintage CanAm McKee Mk 10 Wedge. He won the Bakersfield trophy in 1965 driving an Austin-Healey 3000 with a supercharged small block Chevy, running in class AAM/SP he turned an ET: 8.575 at, MPH: 161.87 to win. When he saw the album cover he asked me if I wanted his trophy which he thought would look nice displayed with the album cover. :thumbup: As you can see Ted, Philo truly is The Center of The Universe. :bounce:

Thomas
 
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