va.grouseman
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Drivesit.----Bet you forgot about that L.M. & V. Star vise in your own pile, that has the scalloped pattern. That's probably first cousin to Fuller. Anyway that makes 8 so far.
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nickelTwin
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It's original. I've got a few Wilton's from the 70's and they all have remnants of the sticker. The fact that yours is intact shows your vise want used very much. Nice find
Thanks, good to know.
Went out to the garage sales today. Last one I stopped at they told me to stop back buy next weekend because they were going to clean out an old shed so they could tear it down. Of course I asked if they had any vises. She said she thinks there is and if I wanted to go look go ahead. I found this old 5 inch Yost bolted to a bench. I Asked how much and they said $40.00 I unbolted it and was gone before they could change there mind. There was also an old prentess but it had been broken and welded.
Haha, just simply asking a little question can yield some great finds, good job bro!
drivesitfar
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VA: you have a good memory so here's the pictures for others that can't find that post of my L. M. & V 150 pound vise. i think Fuller was the owner or sold to the owner of L. M. & V so might be a bit closer than a first cousin.
Mtn: i second the Ritzblitz handles so PM him with your specs and if he has any time i'm sure you will be satisfied as many other members have been.
Blue: nice family you have there and i think i would also like a big Record quick release wood vise.
Jaker: nice find on the Yost. looks like it's old enough to almost be a re branded Holland vise.
Mtn: i second the Ritzblitz handles so PM him with your specs and if he has any time i'm sure you will be satisfied as many other members have been.
Blue: nice family you have there and i think i would also like a big Record quick release wood vise.
Jaker: nice find on the Yost. looks like it's old enough to almost be a re branded Holland vise.
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jaker10
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Here is a picture of my vise shelf. I just added the yost today. Left to right yost 105, Monarch 219, Prentiss Bull dog 515 525 and a wilton cadet. Have a #6 Paramo for my beater vice. And in the back ground behind my Paramo is a little 1 inch that's not worth a **** for nothing but I had to have it.
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va.grouseman
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Previously posted by mtnwkr.
I'll never stop! I work with Wilton 800's, Yost 38c, huge Reed's, etc at my job and I'd love to have one of those huge guys on a stand at home!
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How big is the Yost 38C?----How wide are the jaws?----I have a 34C, 6'' jaws, 167 lbs.
And how big are the Reeds you work with?
I'll never stop! I work with Wilton 800's, Yost 38c, huge Reed's, etc at my job and I'd love to have one of those huge guys on a stand at home!
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How big is the Yost 38C?----How wide are the jaws?----I have a 34C, 6'' jaws, 167 lbs.
And how big are the Reeds you work with?
quarterstang86
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Thoughts on this item. I'm seeking a purposeful yet older vise for my garage. I know "zero" about what is valuable and what is not. American made is a huge preference though.
Automotive work and fabrication usage.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/tls/4593893453.html
Automotive work and fabrication usage.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/tls/4593893453.html
balane
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I won't comment on price because I don't know the market in your area but I will tell you that it's an extremely nice vise in fantastic condition. Honestly, that's just about as good as they come and 4 1/2" is a great size that should cover most any home-shop need. I like it very much.
Outlawmws
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That Starrett is a nice vise, BUT, I think it's overpriced.
Burgerkong
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I paid $30 for mine. $250 was the going price for a pristine 926 in my area, which is easier twice to three times as big and triple the weight. I think it's priced high. The rate should be $1 per pound.
oldldh
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As the owner of a Starrett 925, those are great vises...
But that is about $ 150.00 too much...
macgee
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I agree with the others, It's a really nice vise but $300 for a 60lb vise is certainly a premium price but not super insane. I bet the seller is banking on the Starrett name even though it's a rebadge Athol.
Having said that it's a very nice vise and it would serve you well. Let it sit for a while and if it doesn't sell, see if he will budge on price.
Dennis Leigh Henry
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Jaker10, that's a terrific story.. I'm finding after digging backward and reading the balance of this thread, the vises that are the most interesting come with a story like that.. Great find, and technique..
Cheers..
Cheers..
Previously posted by mtnwkr.
I'll never stop! I work with Wilton 800's, Yost 38c, huge Reed's, etc at my job and I'd love to have one of those huge guys on a stand at home!
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How big is the Yost 38C?----How wide are the jaws?----I have a 34C, 6'' jaws, 167 lbs.
And how big are the Reeds you work with?
I liked my Yost 32C but it's found a new home for a tidy profit lol. Very curious about this 38C 
But when you say "huge Reeds" and don't explain further with detail, many of us here want to hit you with a wrench or something lol.
ritzblitz
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Who knows what ever happened to AndrewH??
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drivesitfar
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Ritz: i was thinking the same thing. i emailed him and sent him a text a few days ago and no reply. i hope that bench with a ton of old US steel on it didn't fall on his head.
seriously i do hope he's ok. he might just be taking a break from the vise vice which we all need now and then I guess. maybe it's just his phone or laptop crashed and he doesn't have internet access.
Andrew are you there or did you find a Reed 209 and are spiffing it up before posting it??
seriously i do hope he's ok. he might just be taking a break from the vise vice which we all need now and then I guess. maybe it's just his phone or laptop crashed and he doesn't have internet access.
Andrew are you there or did you find a Reed 209 and are spiffing it up before posting it??
Looks like he's been away for a while:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/member.php?u=192174
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zoomieport
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drivesitfar
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Zoomie: you are a great writer sir. AGREED and especially if over 5 inch wide jaws and over 75 pounds of old US or European steel.
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ShadowRuleZ
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I was wondering the same thing after I didn't get a response to a Parker 978 question.
Outlawmws
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Actually Starrett bought Athol, and kept the Athol name for a period for name recognition. it is in fact a Starrett, with roots in the original Athol Co.
I just shot him a text, but no reply yet. If he's found a Reed 209... I'm taking a trip with some cash in hand. And a hammer and shovel as plan B.
GETRIDAONE
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I picked up a few new ones on Friday. First up is a Emmert 4A pattern vise. Please keep your eyes out for any jaws to go on the round post, they seem to be missing most of the time.
H B Smith 1A 3 3/4" jaws, it will need swimming lessons in the E Tank
The 2" clamp on is a HSB hardware (later to be Ace Hdw.) It is either Polish or German. I can't remember who used the phoenix looking bird logo ?
The SME I haven't tried to find anything about it, but it looks cool
H B Smith 1A 3 3/4" jaws, it will need swimming lessons in the E Tank
The 2" clamp on is a HSB hardware (later to be Ace Hdw.) It is either Polish or German. I can't remember who used the phoenix looking bird logo ?
The SME I haven't tried to find anything about it, but it looks cool
macgee
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You are correct my mistake if I wrote it wrong but I do usually see a price difference when a labeled Starrett vise over Athol even though they're pretty much the same vise. You are pretty much paying a premium price for the blue speckled paint, sadly that paint is not very durable. Having said that that Starret vise is very nice.
I believe the the 924 is a replacement to the earlier made 624 Athol (different specs).
***EDIT: I stand corrected, Carla's post below describes how it's different to the Athol 624.
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EOC_Jason
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Ouch, they want premium for that... I will tell you that IS a nice vise, and it has the swivel base, looks pretty great condition, that is the original paint.
If you really need a vise tomorrow, then yeah that one should do 99% of what you need and last to hand down to your grandkids. Otherwise I would probably hold off and see if he lowers the price.
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Though for you people that think that price is crazy... Here's what popped up in Houston lately... literally the only decent thing in months... $400 for an older Athol, I'm guessing 4" - 4.5"... This is what I have to work with down here... *sigh*
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Mark in Indiana
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+1. If it was refurbished, maybe the price would be a good "asking" price. Starrett is top shelf but there are plenty of good vises out there that are a better bang for the buck than the featured Starrett.
According for Mr Nelis of the Yost works, that model was built on contract for Starretts at the Yost plant, and they used a high quality of ductile iron, to allow for adequate strength of the relatively thin section/relatively light weight of the components.
The seller wants too much $$$ by 'current market' standards, but, depending on the value of your working time, it may be cost-effective for you to over-pay, to have the proverbial 'bird-in-hand' without investing more of your time in looking for a better deal.
(the real question, as with any tool, is whether it will amortise its investment in service....if you over-pay now, are you simply looking at another few years of use before you consider it fairly amortised?)
That one is the optimal size for the generality of automotive and light fabrication work, and is of very high quality. Vises in the apparent 'nearly as new' condition which that photo suggests are not easy to find.
cheers
Carla
Blue Frog
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Since there is an ongoing discussion of vises made in MA, specifically around Athol, and Greenfield, MA is not too far from there, let's see if anyone might have info on this vise made by Goodell Pratt. It's all original - never refurbished.
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mcmlvif100
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Bought a 4" Wilton off of CL yesterday. $50 and 30 miles each way. Photo is from the ad. In pretty nice shape, especially since it's 45+ years old (i.e. dated 6 69). Don't see a lot of reasonably priced Wiltons in our area. Has smooth jaws so works well with my Wilton 9450 which has a set of KMScott's beautiful serrated jaws. Really like the idea that I can have both options in comparably sized vices on one bench.
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My phone would allow the pic uploads. I think they appear to be in good shape, especially the Morgan. I want to clean them up and restore them to look nice. I saw a member with a Morgan that was bare blued metal, it looked sweet! The Prentiss has the base and the rear jaw that moves nice and the original tapered pin.
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95riosnake
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Since there is an ongoing discussion of vises made in MA, specifically around Athol, and Greenfield, MA is not too far from there, let's see if anyone might have info on this vise made by Goodell Pratt. It's all original - never refurbished.
Blue
That's a very cool piece Richard! Guess I may see that when I pick up the Bader BIII on Saturday
I was wondering if anyone can help with a vise I am interested in purchasing.
Firstly it is in quite poor condition. Rust mainly although it does turn.
Secondly I can not find any info about this model of Prentiss. It s a lewis patent no. 917. Jaw width is just over 6"
Anyone come across one of these and what would it be worth?
I am happy to undertake a restoration if this is worthwhile. Also the jaws on this model don't appear to be replaceable. Would this present a problem for resto?
Firstly it is in quite poor condition. Rust mainly although it does turn.
Secondly I can not find any info about this model of Prentiss. It s a lewis patent no. 917. Jaw width is just over 6"
Anyone come across one of these and what would it be worth?
I am happy to undertake a restoration if this is worthwhile. Also the jaws on this model don't appear to be replaceable. Would this present a problem for resto?
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Rusty Musket
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Blue Frog, I have one of those with the label in nearly identical condition as yours. I can't find any pics right now but I will take a look….
I finished up the 6" Wilton restoration the other day. She was pretty far gone but should now live to serve another generation or two.
Here are some before & afters:
I still need to get better at straightening handles. These were pretty bad and still have some wiggles in them.
I made a new collar for the first time. The original was missing and had been replaced with this cobbled-up split collar and some practical yet not-so-beautiful welds. I used brass and was feeling pretty proud of myself for about 45 minutes until I happened to read a post by KMScott where he casually mentions that collars are made from hardened steel. Damn him and all his expertise! At least the brass is a full 1/4" thick so it will be interesting to see if it warps under "normal" use
The hardest part was cutting it out!
Here she is ready to go back to work. She's a Wilton #60 (6" jaw) with no date stamp to be found
Shown below next to a #3 from the same era
I finished up the 6" Wilton restoration the other day. She was pretty far gone but should now live to serve another generation or two.
Here are some before & afters:
I still need to get better at straightening handles. These were pretty bad and still have some wiggles in them.
I made a new collar for the first time. The original was missing and had been replaced with this cobbled-up split collar and some practical yet not-so-beautiful welds. I used brass and was feeling pretty proud of myself for about 45 minutes until I happened to read a post by KMScott where he casually mentions that collars are made from hardened steel. Damn him and all his expertise!
At least the brass is a full 1/4" thick so it will be interesting to see if it warps under "normal" use
The hardest part was cutting it out!
Here she is ready to go back to work. She's a Wilton #60 (6" jaw) with no date stamp to be found
Shown below next to a #3 from the same era
oldldh
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Rusty---
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
(P.S...I gots to git me suma dem sizzers...
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Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
(P.S...I gots to git me suma dem sizzers...
)KMScott
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Blue Frog, I have one of those with the label in nearly identical condition as yours. I can't find any pics right now but I will take a look….
I finished up the 6" Wilton restoration the other day. She was pretty far gone but should now live to serve another generation or two.
Here are some before & afters:
I still need to get better at straightening handles. These were pretty bad and still have some wiggles in them.
I made a new collar for the first time. The original was missing and had been replaced with this cobbled-up split collar and some practical yet not-so-beautiful welds. I used brass and was feeling pretty proud of myself for about 45 minutes until I happened to read a post by KMScott where he casually mentions that collars are made from hardened steel. Damn him and all his expertise!
The hardest part was cutting it out!
Here she is ready to go back to work. She's a Wilton #60 (6" jaw) with no date stamp to be found
Rusty, you could have at least used Ampco 18 to 21, that brass will wear out real fast. OH, you really cut out the washer with scissors? I need to learn that trick.
