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New m18 impact wrench model on Mikwaukee site (hammerhead style)

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Bare tool sold out online at Home Depot..

AND - For you mechanics M7 tools now selling at Cpo outlets.. They have their version of the pneumatic hammerhead style impact.. Rated at 250 ftlbs of torque.. Their stuff does look nice.


Yeah, they've been sold out since right when they came out

CPO sites still seem to have them. Wonder what a refurb one will cost
 
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Cpo is doing free shipping all weekend for orders over $49.. Even though I don't need it, I might just buy it cause I have gift cards and I like toys..
 

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Cordless hammerhead has the same 180ft-lb as the air powered one. I chose to sell my 2763 and buy a W7150 and cordless hammerhead. Never had the Milwaukee right angle impact to compare. It does look smaller but torque is low, I work on heavy equipment so I wanted torque. I like the 7150 a bit better.

My biggest issues with Milwaukee is their use of plastic. It's the reason I sold my 3/8 M12 ratchet and replaced it with a 12v IR. The IR is partially aluminum which means you can actually break bolts loose by hand without tearing the tool to pieces. The IR is not as nice to hold as the Milwaukee though.

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These pictures are just comparing the 12v ratchets like I was talking about.

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Milwaukee's 3/8" impact has the metal/plastic construction of the I-R. A Pontiac Grand Prix is the heaviest piece of equipment that I work on and in this case SIZE matters. The main reason to buy Milwaukee over I-R in anything is competitive pricing and availability of the batteries. You can be anywhere at anytime and buy a Milwaukee battery. Last time I checked they didn't have I-R batteries at the Home Depot.

Have you actually "Torn to Pieces" a 3/8" Milwaukee ratchet. I have been unable to accomplish this task to date. Even with a metal gear box there is still a plastic to metal junction on the I-R. Using your logic wouldn't that junction also be subjected to being the weakest link.

Battery availability and price along with smaller size is what wins the day for me. I like I-R stuff a lot and am certainly not a hater but for my money and needs Milwaukee wins. Certainly this isn't true for everybody.
 

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Construction of the impact one doesn't matter to me because they can't be used as ratchets. The impact is doing the work.

The ratchets I have pulled on to the poinr the battery fell out. I didn't think I was asking a lot out of it and while the IR still has some plastic, what matters is that it does not fall apart when I pull on it under the same conditions.

The cost for the IR ratchet is not much more than the Milwaukee.
The cost difference for the right angle impact is double.

I absolutely hate the Ingersoll chargers. I understand the advantage of having batteries available locally but in my case never have been in a situation where I would go out of my way to get a battery at a store. I'll just order one and see it in a couple days. In the meantime I'll live with one less battery. I don't run all my tools on one battery.


Make no mistake, I love my Milwaukee stuff. The M18 and M12 3/8 fuel impacts are awesome. So is the 2 speed fuel m12 screwdriver and the myriad of other Milwaukee tools I have. Love all of them but there's a few I feel other companies meet my needs better. Some prefer to stick to one battery, I think every brand brings some qualities and weaknesses to the table. I have Metabo stuff I love/hate too.
 

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I do agree that the M12 battery connection might be the weakest link and that pulling out the battery during high torque usage is completely possible. If the battery truly snapped into place like it does on the M18 I don't think you could pull the battery out but this is clearly possible on the M12.
 

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The IR 12v snaps into place like the M18 Milwaukee, it makes for a goofy handle but it's more solid.
 
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I think if I was a pro mechanic using the stuff everyday I would prob go with the IR stuff as well.. I'm basing this solely off looks and stats of the tools though since I've never used them.. The IR stuff does look nicer.. I have the m12 ratchet and still haven't had a good chance to use it other than playing around in the house.. Just another toy in the box for me really. If I were a pro , personally, I wouldn't let the battery availability sway my choice.. I've never needed anything that bad that I couldn't wait for it to be shipped to my home, and going with better, more specialized tools, that just comes with the territory I suppose. Maybe a reason to order a spare initially... Hard to argue with the hammerhead having 3x the torque if you really plan on giving these things a workout.. Def worth the extra money if you are in the field, but for light use I can justify wasting some money on the milwaukee..
 

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I think it all depends on what you're working on. For cars the smaller size of the Milwaukee to me is a compelling advantage. If I worked on trucks or anything big which have more room inside then the other features of the I-R might change my opinion. Smaller is better most of the time in my engine bay and I'm certain for most others that work on cars.

MORE POWER!!!! is true most of the time if it doesn't come at the cost of not being able to use it. For water pumps, alternators, timing belt changes, intake manifold work the smaller size of the Milwaukee is a great advantage. If I worked on Caterpillar bulldozers I think that wouldn't matter as much.
 

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The IR is pretty much the same size as the Milwaukee minus the battery. If I can't fit the IR somewhere, the Milwaukee wouldn't either. I like both tools but the Milwaukee feels like a toy in comparison.
 

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I'm beginning to hate this website

I'm ordering the 3/8" one.. Going to get get the kit with the smaller battery since I already have two 4.0 batteries, and would like at least one smaller/lighter battery. And I want the case, and can't get that without getting a battery.. so, yeah, that's my justification for spending even more money today.

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I'm beginning to hate this website

I'm ordering the 3/8" one.. Going to get get the kit with the smaller battery since I already have two 4.0 batteries, and would like at least one smaller/lighter battery. And I want the case, and can't get that without getting a battery.. so, yeah, that's my justification for spending even more money today.

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Yea join the club.. I haven't ordered this yet, keep talking myself out of it since it's just a waste of money (for me)... But I have a drawer filled with almost every ratchet harbor freight makes.. Still haven't used my milwaukee ratchet either.. Lol.. I've been on a carhartt buying kick these days now..
 

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The AC Delco version of this looks very very similar
http://www.acdelco-tools.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_69&product_id=77

$1200 on Amazon and also listed as a Durofix

The AC Delco one you listed has electronic torque controls.....it literally will stop turning when a specific torque is reached (digitally set). They have the same technology in some of the impacts.....really cool. They had a demo set up at SEMA with lugnuts & the impact would stop tightening once the torque was reached.

Hitachi & Makita both have them also.....all 4 companies are using the identical "head" portion. I saw them all in person at SEMA & STAFDA a couple month ago. I guess someone has the patent on the right angle design & licenses it out.

http://www.makitatools.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?Name=BTL061

I cant find the Hitachi one on their site (18v), but I did hold it in my hand and it looks identical also.
 

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This tool has been a major disappointment. Milwaukee claims 60 ft-lbs and it's not even close. I have not been able to get this thing to take off a bolt torqued to 40 ft-lb. They have dramatically overrated this tool. From my testing it's 40 ft-lb. absolute MAX.
 

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This tool has been a major disappointment. Milwaukee claims 60 ft-lbs and it's not even close. I have not been able to get this thing to take off a bolt torqued to 40 ft-lb. They have dramatically overrated this tool. From my testing it's 40 ft-lb. absolute MAX.

That is very disappointing. I kept putting off buying one but it sounds like it may be for the better.
 
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