The VISES of Garage Journal

GETRIDAONE · Mar 19, 2015

Bill Ramsey said:
YOU VISE PEOPLE!

I was perfectly happy standing there, enjoying the view. Then one of you (OK, probably more than one) sneaked up behind me and pushed me when I least expected it. Down a slope. Down a very, very, very slippery slope.

I won't name names. You know who you are.

Morgan 288 1/2. Local CL score.

Nice vise ! It looks like the Parker with the same model number. I think I also saw a Reed just like it with the same model number.

revamp, I like the color but it looks like a blue/green in the picture, could be the lighting.

trijeff · Mar 19, 2015

Nice revamp, Revamp! Haven't seen that color before, that's a nice one. Congrats on finishing your first vise, trust me when I say it's just the start

revamp · Mar 19, 2015

trijeff said:
Nice revamp, Revamp! Haven't seen that color before, that's a nice one. Congrats on finishing your first vise, trust me when I say it's just the start

Thanks guys, but at 40 some pounds this vise is already 1/3 of my body weight. I have no interest (or need) to own anything larger or heavier than this one (unless one of you gentlemen are willing to tote it for me!).

:Help:

I'll have to see if I can get a better picture of the color on the vise.

~Amanda

Fretters · Mar 19, 2015

CwazyWabbit said:
Still need to clear some bench space for "The Vice" , not sure what will be worse, lifting 240lb or unscrewing that massive screw all the way out half a turn at a time to split the vice in two?

I'm banking the former will be on the "never again" list.

Might be time to invest in one of these.

Fretters · Mar 19, 2015

revamp said:
Thanks guys, but at 40 some pounds this vise is already 1/3 of my body weight. I have no interest (or need) to own anything larger or heavier than this one (unless one of you gentlemen are willing to tote it for me!).

Small can be just as tempting.

Nice work on that vice.

Size wise, that should cover pretty much all you're likely to do in general. Quite a few of us probably hover around the 4" to 5" mark on our main, everyday vice(s).

FMC1959 · Mar 19, 2015

revamp said:
Thanks guys, but at 40 some pounds this vise is already 1/3 of my body weight. I have no interest (or need) to own anything larger or heavier than this one (unless one of you gentlemen are willing to tote it for me!).

I'll have to see if I can get a better picture of the color on the vise.

~Amanda

Nice job on the vise restore and welcome to one of the few women on this thread

drivesitfar · Mar 19, 2015

CW: there's no turning back as far as buying vises and all i can offer as advice is start putting aside the ones you really like so you can sell or trade the others to get some more that you like. Slippery slope or not it's a fun ride and not too many things better than having a huge vise or two in the back of your car for an hour or two ride home.

Fretters: i'm sorry i didn't acknowledge your new addition to your shed. also sorry your back is sore today. when are you going to learn to take those monsters apart before moving them? some are a PIA i admit and maybe the quick release or English ones might be damn near impossible, but unless you start hanging on an inversion table like i do you might end up at a Dr's office or Chriopractor more often than you like. just curious is that the biggest vise you've owned and is there a bigger one on your radar now?

Revamp: it's a pretty common vise, but your Craftsman is a keeper. nice job on the restore and don't end the search for a bigger one because i'm sure that there is a strong back near you to help carry it home and mount it on your bench. or take it apart like i just mentioned to Fretters and your 80-100 pound vise becomes manageable. welcome to our group and good to have another female to keep some of these guys on their best behavior.

dutchgray · Mar 19, 2015

drivesitfar
The English quick release ones it all comes down to getting the screws out of the bracket on the front, if you can do that then you can operate it and pull the screw out with the quick release parts, and then you can pull the dynamic out. I haven't got one that was too heavy yet so I haven't needed to take one apart to move it.

Lu-Max · Mar 19, 2015

KMScott said:
OH, look what I carved today.

If only 1 week sooner.........

CwazyWabbit · Mar 19, 2015

dutchgray said:
drivesitfar
The English quick release ones it all comes down to getting the screws out of the bracket on the front, if you can do that then you can operate it and pull the screw out with the quick release parts, and then you can pull the dynamic out. I haven't got one that was too heavy yet so I haven't needed to take one apart to move it.

That'll be the important word just there

oldldh · Mar 19, 2015

Lu-Max said:
If only 1 week sooner.........

He missed out on a 5" Parker...

That didn't have one...

Oh well...

mantemec · Mar 19, 2015

Fresh, just drop off by the UPS truck. It needs a new pair of jaws but in good shape over all. little broken of pieces where the jaw sits but I think I can filled that with some tig welding filler. (wounder if there is a better way to fill the broken off pieces). I was surprised the wrenches were there after all those years.

dutchgray · Mar 19, 2015

CwazyWabbit said:
That'll be the important word just there

The Record 114 is 80 odd lb and isn't that heavy tbh, I walk around at work with two bags of cement all the time and that's 120lb, there is not many heavier than that round here, I live in a very non industrial area so any large and heavy tools are quite rare. The samsonia No38 was a good find for here, but Fretters 8a is double the weight nearly, I would buy them that big if I could find them.

CwazyWabbit · Mar 19, 2015

Come to think of it the only one I'd consider splitting due to weight isn't a quick release

I bet you'd travel for a really big vice at the right price

One of the problems with lifting the 48 is finding a decent place to get hold of it, it's quite curvy and if you grab it low down it gets a bit unstable when lifting it.

KMScott · Mar 19, 2015

Lu-Max said:
If only 1 week sooner.........

I think I mentioned I was going to make a couple sizes.

mantemec said:
Fresh, just drop off by the UPS truck. It needs a new pair of jaws but in good shape over all. little broken of pieces where the jaw sits but I think I can filled that with some tig welding filler. (wounder if there is a better way to fill the broken off pieces). I was surprised the wrenches were there after all those years.

There is several types of filler rod you can use, I like Eutectic's TIG rod choices or if Inconel sticks then that would work also. Gonna make the jaws your self? If so I could give you a couple pointers. PM me if you have questions, That vise is worth fixing.

FMC1959 · Mar 19, 2015

mantemec said:
It is a number 3, I dont think it weight 300lbs, It feel like around 175lbs i pick it up by myself with no problem I try to take it apart but i think is design to come apart from the handle side. I am not sure. But it is a monster, i love it. very good shape over all.

If yours is the # 3, looks like it is 162 lbs according to this ad (top left corner of ad)

joe.striper · Mar 19, 2015

mantemec said:
Fresh, just drop off by the UPS truck. It needs a new pair of jaws but in good shape over all. little broken of pieces where the jaw sits but I think I can filled that with some tig welding filler. (wounder if there is a better way to fill the broken off pieces). I was surprised the wrenches were there after all those years.

hmmmm...I've seen one of these someplace before.........

You have good taste sir!

CwazyWabbit · Mar 19, 2015

KMScott said:
I think I mentioned I was going to make a couple sizes.

There is several types of filler rod you can use, I like Eutectic's TIG rod choices or if Inconel sticks then that would work also.....

I've used Aluminium Bronze rod which worked quite well, obviously it's not a colour match for cast iron so not a good idea for bare metal areas.

CwazyWabbit · Mar 19, 2015

drivesitfar said:
CW: there's no turning back as far as buying vises and all i can offer as advice is start putting aside the ones you really like so you can sell or trade the others to get some more that you like. Slippery slope or not it's a fun ride and not too many things better than having a huge vise or two in the back of your car for an hour or two ride home.
......

It's not all down hill mate, I have sold ONE :lol_hitti

Hopefully I'll be negotiating for it's replacement soon

KMScott · Mar 19, 2015

CwazyWabbit said:
I've used Aluminium Bronze rod which worked quite well, obviously it's not a colour match for cast iron so not a good idea for bare metal areas.

AC or DC? I have used Silicon Bronze but never tried it on Cast Steel. What is the supplier of the Alum Bronze rod you mentioned.

BJ42LX · Mar 19, 2015

Anyone in Tulsa / OKC?

A friend sent me this link and said, "Hey, it says Wilton vise..."

http://tulsa.craigslist.org/for/4921159395.html

I clicked through the photos and didn't see anything but it does say, "160 pound Wilton vice, $350".

I browse the photos again and spot something. There it is right there. Do you see it?

I emailed the guy asking for more photos. He sent me this.

Looks like a 600 in good shape. It isn't a great price, but it is a rare-ish Wilton if someone in the area wants to try to make a deal on it. It's too far for me.

And if you want to do a twofer you could hit this as well:

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/tls/4921890185.html

CwazyWabbit · Mar 19, 2015

KMScott said:
AC or DC? I have used Silicon Bronze but never tried it on Cast Steel. What is the supplier of the Alum Bronze rod you mentioned.

I use AC, I did repairs to the last Record 36 I cleaned up (this is a cast steel vice) and it worked well. You can get some rubbish come out of the casting that you may have to stop and grind out but you can get that with welding it as well.

I'm in the UK and about the only Alum Bronze we see over here is http://www.spawelding.co.uk/brazing-wire/994-sifalbronze-no-32-24mm-25kg.html

I think it was one of Jody's youtube videos that I first saw it used on cast iron.
http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/welding-cast-iron.html

EDIT: Just to add this page of his gives a bit more detail on why he uses AC http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/tig-welding-cast-iron-409.html

wed4life · Mar 19, 2015

I am an avid reader of the posts here on GJ "VISES"
Just wondering how many of us vise junkies are in the ownership club of 50+ vises in our possession.
David

CwazyWabbit · Mar 19, 2015

David I'll be there in a month or two probably

wed4life · Mar 19, 2015

I have shifted gears slightly and only buy smaller ones. I would like a 200 -300 lb vise, but they are a bit much to collect.
David

trijeff · Mar 19, 2015

Holy camole, w4l/David - 50+ vises and only nine posts?!?!?!?! Please post some pics!!

wed4life · Mar 19, 2015

OK. Tomorrow I will. Nothing is restored yet, but someday.
I will probably be shocked myself once I get an actual count.
David

trijeff · Mar 19, 2015

wed4life said:
OK. Tomorrow I will. Nothing is restored yet, but someday.
I will probably be shocked myself once I get an actual count.
David

Thank you! Can hardly wait for some Friday vise **** :evil:

topop101 · Mar 19, 2015

wed4life said:
I am an avid reader of the posts here on GJ "VISES"
Just wondering how many of us vise junkies are in the ownership club of 50+ vises in our possession.
David

I try and keep that many, give or take a few from time to time. I probably only have 12 or 15 I won't sell for one reason or another. Mostly because of who they belong to at one time or they are just too cOOl in my mind. Or a few I have a "vision" as to how I plan to do them up but lack the time. But many are just flippers

topop101 · Mar 19, 2015

CwazyWabbit said:
It's not all down hill mate, I have sold ONE

Hopefully I'll be negotiating for it's replacement soon

I don't know about you but when I sell one it's like a part of me goes with it. That's why I try to sell local.... maybe I can go visit...

cspcrx · Mar 19, 2015

How i make use of the pole in my garage.
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wed4life · Mar 19, 2015

It is almost like selling a gun. I don't do that anymore. Had a beautiful Ruger M77V with laminated stock, bull barrel. Wish I never sold it. Had a 68 Charger R/T, wished I never sold it.

littleponderosa · Mar 19, 2015

zkling said:
No kidding, I wouldn't even bother contacting him. Go check this one out. Check it over for cracks or other issues. Looks like it was on some type of adjustable stand.

https://billings.craigslist.org/tls/4911944060.html

New to the garage - 1st old vise to me. Damn thing is some kind of big - have no idea on weight - going to have to pull the bottom off anyway for a good clean. Saw no cracks, no apparent issues. So, I'm standing there and ask him if the leg vises were for sale and they were. Total bill for the day - $250. He knocked down about 10% and I paid him cash. Good dude and might have found a new occasional fishing bud.

zkling - thanks for the heads up. I'm now poorer 'cause you steered me this way. :thumbup:

Bill

Outlawmws · Mar 19, 2015

wed4life said:
I am an avid reader of the posts here on GJ "VISES"
Just wondering how many of us vise junkies are in the ownership club of 50+ vises in our possession.
David

Define "vise"; Just bench vises? Do clamp ons count? how about hand vises? Wood working vises? what about work mates? Those are vises, right? Drill press vises? Mill vises?... :evil:

Some here are into three figures... :ninja:

Outlawmws · Mar 19, 2015

Bill Ramsey said:
YOU VISE PEOPLE!

I was perfectly happy standing there, enjoying the view. Then one of you (OK, probably more than one) sneaked up behind me and pushed me when I least expected it. Down a slope. Down a very, very, very slippery slope.

I won't name names. You know who you are.

Morgan 288 1/2. Local CL score.

(Going to be a lot of these, if only in their heads...)

torqueman2002 · Mar 19, 2015

Another week, another estate sale, another vise. :beer:

$45

4" Hollands 24

I looked for cracks, welds, and bent handle; but failed to find any.

However, the old guy has seen it's share of work. The handle and lead screw are well worn.

More images in the PB SlideShow.
http://s786.photobucket.com/user/torqueman2002/slideshow/Vises/Holland 4inch

So, I need to media blast a grinder stand tomorrow. I'm leaning towards putting this guy in as well.

I don't have a clue what color I'll paint it.

Thanks for looking.

Bill Ramsey · Mar 20, 2015

Outlawmws said:
(Going to be a lot of these, if only in their heads...)

For sure, there's an "O" name on that list.

zkling · Mar 20, 2015

KMScott said:
AC or DC? I have used Silicon Bronze but never tried it on Cast Steel. What is the supplier of the Alum Bronze rod you mentioned.

I keep both on hand, both are Harris rods designed for TIG, which have a different composition than their gas rods. I always run the Si rod on DC and usually run the Al rod on AC. There are a few different alloy compositions of the Aluminum bronze rod, off the top of my head #2 is the one to use for buildup and joining. There is a company out of Michigan or Wisconsion that specializes in copper based fillers for the MIG and TIG world that had a good rundown sheet on them. :headscrat

:

bluebolt · Mar 20, 2015

davidless said:
OK, This is the Vise
3" wide jaws and opens 6"
number on the side is 10104 300

Made in Schiller Park IL

What do you think?

I think you need to pull the dynamic jaw out, flip it over and tell us what the date is on the key! Also if it says GUAR EXP. I'm thinking it's a 1960's or early 1970's vise. Model number changed throughout the years, it was probably sold as a 9300. Nice looking vise.

BFBOB · Mar 20, 2015

Outlawmws said:
Define "vise"; Just bench vises? Do clamp ons count? how about hand vises? Wood working vises? what about work mates? Those are vises, right? Drill press vises? Mill vises?...

Some here are into three figures...

Wow! I'm a piker compared to most of you, but if you loosen the definition that much, I'm about 3/4 of the way to 3 figures! :eyecrazy:

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