Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Mccool · Apr 23, 2015

Great, thank you so much.

Hopefully I haven't derailed the thread too much, here are a few more pics of my dp220 and a cool homemade vise I bought for it, it appears to be made out of machinist parallels.

exmaxima1 · Apr 23, 2015

bubinga said:
EDIT,
The Reverse switch is always a Double Pole Double Throw switch, (DPDT)

(I called it a SPDT {Single Pole Double throw} in error before one time.)
*** Use a Center Off DPDT switch as well)**

And make sure it is sustained contact switch. IOW's you flip it one way it stays there.
You can flip it to center, it is OFF. You flip it the other way, it stays there.

You should add to your post, "....when using DC motors---does not apply to AC motors"

In other words, DPDT only works for DC motors. It may work with some AC motors---if they are reversible type and have the extra leads to facilitate that---but most AC motors cannot simply be reversed with a DPDT switch on the power leads. I just put a reverse switch on a Kalamazoo belt grinder (which uses a Cap Start AC motor), and I had to use a 3PDT switch.

bubinga · Apr 23, 2015

The vise is nice,you need a new badge,
There was a guy selling them at OWWM, not sure if they were the same size and style.

GRNRYNO · Apr 23, 2015

Does anyone know anyone who can restore an old drill press? I have an old Craftsman bench top press that my friend gave me about 4 - 6 years ago when he bought his old house and the old guy left it there. I took it apart to restore and never got around to it. I'm sure I couldn't even get it back together correctly. It worked perfectly before I took it apart.

bubinga · Apr 23, 2015

What is your location?
If you were local to me, maybe I could do it.

GRNRYNO · Apr 23, 2015

Hey bubinga, Im in Richmond Va, about 5 hrs or so away from you.

bubinga · Apr 23, 2015

GRNRYNO said:
Hey bubinga, Im in Richmond Va, about 5 hrs or so away from you.

LOL, Yep, gonna be a little far. :dunno:

I would probably do it for a few bucks if We were closer. :thumbup:

Go for it, there are a lot of guys on here with a lot of knowledge about these machines.
And most are happy to help.
I have a Craftsman 150.

GRNRYNO · Apr 23, 2015

thx bubinga, I think I will. Ill post up questions w pics if I run into any issues. Ill probably start a thread on it.

bubinga · Apr 23, 2015

OK, GL, New thread is probably the best bet.
What is the model?

bubinga · Apr 24, 2015

ichabod said:
not too cool, but it is older than me. It is a westcraft (western auto). If I would have seen it in person, I would not have bid on it. oh well lessened learned. spent 85 dollars. got it home took it apart and cleaned it and put some powder coat on it. it works, it drills and it's tight.

The more l am looking at this the more l am liking it.
kind-0f reminds me of an old atlas.

Mccool · Apr 30, 2015

I received a new badge for my press from bubinga recently, thanks again buddy!

bubinga · Apr 30, 2015

Your welcome, Damn, that looks good on there. :thumbup:

I was concerned it seemed a bit washed out color wise, But it looks good.
Thanks to The Fellow at OWWM that made them too.
Forget his name right off, maybe he is a member here too.

don long · May 27, 2015

I just brought this press home last night
It was manufactured by Mechanics machine co. in 1895

exmaxima1 · May 27, 2015

don long said:
I just brought this press home last night
It was manufactured by Mechanics machine co. in 1895

That looks alot like the machine I ran during the summers while going to college. I bored 1-13/16" (don't know why I remember that size) holes in Hendrikson truck motor mounts. The shop bought the press specifically for that job, and wanted the flat belts since they will slip before breaking anything. Had a back gear and ran about 10 rpm for that job. I just hung on the ratchet lever and squirted oil on the bit all day long.....

Outlawmws · May 27, 2015

VERY cool Don! looking forward to the "after" pics!

mdlave · Jun 10, 2015

I picked up a Buffalo No. 15 drill press a couple weeks ago. The press is in pretty good shape. No vibrations. Very little runout, but haven't measured exactly. It is not marked as a No. 15, but swing is 15". Did Buffalo have other 15" models?

1/3 hp Westinghouse motor, runs well. Has shutoff switch and worklight installed. I'm guess these are aftermarket, since they are both painted yellow. Inside of the switchbox says the wiring is good for up to a 3/4hp motor. I was thinking about putting a 1hp motor on it and removing the light. Will existing wiring and switch be okay for a 1hp motor or should I upgrade them?

It was used in a hosiery mill in the 1940s (according to seller and tag in pictures).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrou-Morganton_Full-Fashioned_Hosiery_Mills

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Almond 1/2" Chuck MCD40-342 I could find very little info on the chuck. Seems to be solid. Anything I should know? Any tricks to removing it? I've never removed one with a locking collar, and after unscrewing the collar it still doesn't want to budge.
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The most interesting part was the combo vise/table that came with it. Appears to be similar vintage and same color so is probably original to it. Here is patent info on it. There are only numbers/letters in various places on it, no words (except the box end "wrenches" that are used to open and close the vise and tighten/loosen the clamp on the column that say "Williams Forged - Made in USA").
http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=1341841&id=50263&set=2

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exmaxima1 · Jun 14, 2015

50's Delta DP225

Just finished cleaning and painting my vintage Delta Modern 14 drill press. Got it from the son of the original owner, and it was in great shape with no "arc of shame". Motor got new bearings, and everything else worked perfectly. Runs very quiet even with the stock belt. This seems to be a rare model only made a few years, and has some nice features like integral front switch and spring-balanced belt cover. I just wish I knew how to polish the table a bit better...

Alchymist · Jun 14, 2015

Grab a short piece of 2X4, wrap a piece of 400 grit wet or dry around it. WD40 on the table, polish away.

exmaxima1 · Jun 14, 2015

Alchymist said:
Grab a short piece of 2X4, wrap a piece of 400 grit wet or dry around it. WD40 on the table, polish away.

Thanks, I'll try that.

doan · Jun 15, 2015

Mccool said:
wow thank you so much for taking the time to write that up and help me out! After looking at my wiring and your post for 10 or 15 minutes, surprisingly I get it (not because you didn't explain it well but because I'm an idiot when it comes to wiring and electronics)

The only other question I have is, what do I do with the black wire from the power cord that goes to my current switch? Do I run it to "AC1" and get rid of the blue wire entirely?

Thanks again

I recently converted my drill press to variable speed with the same controller you are using.

Link to my post: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=289922

The blue wires should go in series with the AC line (black) connection. They connect to an over temp switch in the motor. If you choose no to protect your motor just don't hook them up at all.

Here's the overall schematic:

Alexbn921 · Jun 15, 2015

Re: 50's Delta DP225

exmaxima1 said:
Just finished cleaning and painting my vintage Delta Modern 14 drill press. Got it from the son of the original owner, and it was in great shape with no "arc of shame". Motor got new bearings, and everything else worked perfectly. Runs very quiet even with the stock belt. This seems to be a rare model only made a few years, and has some nice features like integral front switch and spring-balanced belt cover. I just wish I knew how to polish the table a bit better...

Nice work. It turned out great. :drool:

JeremyBurke · Jun 15, 2015

EX: That is a great looking DP great job.

Banjorear · Jun 15, 2015

I need to find a cool old one. My Rigid works well; especially considering the price. Time to upgrade to a US-made one. Where is a good place to go on the hunt for the vintage one?

harleybuilder · Jun 15, 2015

Banjorear said:
I need to find a cool old one. My Rigid works well; especially considering the price. Time to upgrade to a US-made one. Where is a good place to go on the hunt for the vintage one?

Craigslist. . You may have to expand your area of the hunt if nothing shows up local to you.

nine4gmc · Jul 6, 2015

Wrong thread

jakemac · Jul 8, 2015

eBay ALERT !

For those of you that might need one, there is a Craftsman/Atlas spindle pulley listed on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-DRILL-PRESS-SPINDLE-PULLEY-50-6A-101-03581-ATLAS-/141711229551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20fea5c26f

Here is a spindle pulley for a Craftsman 101.03581 12-3/4" drill press from the late 30's in good condition. It is no. 50-6A. It is 5" on the large step and 1-3/4" on the smallest step. It takes the 1/2" size belt. The 5/8" spline is in good condition. It comes as shown.

McBrownie · Jul 8, 2015

nine4gmc said:
Well, I had to go repo my Atlas last week, great to have her back in the stable, now I just gotta make room for her to get comfortable.

I know it's humid down there in Wheezy Ana, but do something about that rusty chuck. :lol_hitti

Steevo · Jul 8, 2015

Mine is only 1980's vintage, but USA made and one I have been seeking for a while:

I made a mobile base for it:

I have also cleaned it up since these pictures, but can't prove it.

Tarnished · Jul 8, 2015

Nice machine Steevo. Looks great as found, not much to clean up, just little oil on the base.
Impressive stand, can you tell us more about it please. More pics if you have them.
:thumbup:

Tarnished · Jul 8, 2015

Picked up this sweet 15in Walker Turner in near original condition at a local auction recently. Runs fine, but will need new bearings as usual. Table in nice condition with just couple divots. Whole machine should clean up nicely. Didn't really need another drill press, but... :drool:

gmtarleton · Jul 28, 2015

Re: Show us your cool " old " drill press

I have one just about like yours. I completely rebuilt mine too and use it all the time for drilling anything larger than 1/2 inch in metal.

csargents1546 · Aug 4, 2015

Re: Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Got this one over the weekend. Looks all original with a craftsman motor. So time in it past someone spray painted it. Can't see the numbers on the motor data plate. Only problem I am having is that when the belt is on the top pulley. Motor turns really slow and trips the breaker. Can they be modified to use a third set of pulleys?

nine4gmc · Aug 4, 2015

I think that is a model 80 Sargent. I know they make a vari-slow and a center pulley for the model 100/150 but idk about the model 80. I know you can measure the pulleys and match up one to adapt to a center pulley. There are guys here that have made them.

Outlawmws · Aug 4, 2015

Sargent, wet some paper towel with Simple Green and lay it over the data plate. Cover with saran wrap so it doesn't dry out. test it every 10-15 min or so til the paint starts lifting. you may need to detail with SG and some tooth picks.

dngrmse · Aug 16, 2015

Picked this up last week from a Craigslist ad. Overall the press was in really good shape, aside from some surface rust on the post, base, and table. Spent the day cleaning them up, and repainted them with Rustoleum Hammered black, which is an exact match to the original paint. I didn't repaint the head unit just cleaned it up with some simple green. Going to replace and relocate the power switch, it runs well, with no issues. Only part missing was the quill lock handle, which is on it's way thanks to ebay. I had been hoping to find a bench top unit, but Im more than happy with this one.

Here is the before shot:

earth_grinder · Aug 27, 2015

Here is another Craftftsman 103.23640 benchtop drill press for the thread. Just bought it earlier this week and have done some cleanup of the drill and worked at making the cabinet it is fastened to stronger.

WaWiiaWay · Sep 19, 2015

Canadian 15 Drill Press by Canadian Blower & Forge Co. Ltd., Kitchener, Ont.

I discovered the website today. Am very impressed by the dedication put in by many in order to restore their "babies". Pleasing to the eye of this beholder.

My handle is WaWiiaWAY - Almost sounds like a chant when one tries to vocalize it, but simply stands for Where a Will is, is a Way.

I have in my possession a Canadian 15 Drill Press by Canadian Blower & Forge Co. Ltd., Kitchener, Ont., floor model, which I purchased some 18 years ago from a recycling shop (clothes, washing machine, fridges, bikes and what have you).
Had no immediate use for it at the time, but thought it would come handy at a future date. Well the time has come.

I dismantled this baby and transported it to the project where I did the first clean up of the parts.

The Canadian 15 sports a Leland Electric Frame 35, 1/3 HP, 1425 RPM, 60 cycle motor, wired for both 110 and 220 volts. It is set at 220 volts and works fine. Except for the ON / OFF switch which is broken off and needs replacing. A new power cord will be installed as well.

As to how the machine ended up in Western Europe, I do not know. I tried to find out from the shop I purchased it from. Was told the gentleman (the shop manager) in question now resides in Portugal.
My best guess is that was sent here after World War II in a Canadian version of the US Marshall Help Economic Assistance Program. I hope research here in Europe will make it clear.

I found the great-great-grandson (if one can say this of companies) of the Canadian Blower & Forge Co. Ltd., Kitchener, Ont. which nowadays is called Buffalo Machines, Inc. (in Lockport, NY).
I was told that my baby was conceived somewhere in the thirties or forties. This was ascertained by virtue of the wooden handles.

My intention is to fully restore this piece of vintage equipment. So I need some help for I would like to know the following:
1. Are there any original pictures of this Canadian 15 Drill Press - preferably in color - in a brochure or spec sheet. I would like a picture to find out if the machine sported upper and lower guards over and under the pulleys and what they looked like. As far as I remember no guards were present when purchasing the machine. Operation without guards seems to be asking for an accident to happen;
2. Does any one know the original color of this machine, as well as the kind of paint used. The machine shows various colors: green on the main parts, and blue / aquamarine in between the base of the motor and the mounting plate.
Would the paint be a kind of Hammertone?
3. Does anyone have a manual of this machine (operation's / maintenance) or know where this may be obtained?
4. The Leland Electric motor lacks a cover. Does any one know anything about Leland Electric Co. and if they manufactured their own parts or purchased them "off the shelves". I found a Leland Electric motor but chances are slim and nun to get the owner to sell me only the cover. Shipping the entire motor to Europe is too costly.

Your help in these matters will be greatly appreciated.

Will
Where there is a Will, there is a Way

earth_grinder · Oct 5, 2015

Just completed the multispeed modification on the Craftsman Drill Press. I now have a low speed of 244rpm.

jim whitney · Oct 5, 2015

This is my Snyder I redid about 20 years ago after rescue from the scrap pile at a local d.p.w. Yard has a back gear and power feed ,morse taper with adapts.takes from half inch to inch and a half also takes a keyed chuck made by almond chucks ashburnham mass.early 1900s

vertguy · Oct 5, 2015

Show us your cool, "old" drill press

earth_grinder said:
Just completed the multispeed modification on the Craftsman Drill Press. I now have a low speed of 244rpm.

I like it!
Is that a floor or bench DP? Are you just using brass washer bushings with a slide on pulley?

Can you post some pics with everything in view?

Show us your cool, "old" drill press

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