30 X 16 Lean-to

Carl_WI · Jul 20, 2015

Here is the west side of the shop that I will be adding a lean-to. It will be 30 ft. long and 16 ft. wide. I will be installing a 4 ft. sliding door for easy access. My goal is to store firewood under the lean-to and free up some space inside the shop over winter.

I laid out the footprint and one of the posts ended up where there was cement from the old cow yard. I made a few cuts and removed the cement. I also saved 3 pieces of cement for the holes so there will be a cement pad under the poles. The saw just cut through as the cement was 6 inches thick.

The 3 holes will be 5 ft. deep as we get a deep frost here is Wisconsin.

sublime68charger · Jul 20, 2015

nice start Carl,

good luck with the firewood lean to,

will be following along.

captain14 · Jul 20, 2015

This should give you more heated room inside to work on the next winter project. Did you ever get the major repair done on one of your tractors you mentioned previously?

Good luck and keep us posted on The progress .

Carl_WI · Jul 20, 2015

I did not tear down the IH 300. I am just using it with 4 gears instead of 8. The TA clutch is gone. I gave it a tune up this spring and its working great. I had to buy a Hay baler this year and 2 wagons. That set me back $3000.00. The old baler's transmission blew up and trashed the needles. I sold enough hay to get back half so next year it will be paid off. I completely went through the baler replacing warn parts. It's getting hard to find a small square baler. I trucked it 90 miles to get it home.

Carl

Carl_WI · Jul 21, 2015

I called my friend that has a Hydro Excavating business and he came over to dig the 3, 5ft. holes. This did not take long and saved my back.

Notice the cement squares. I put them in the holes. Menards wanted $26.00 each.

mustangmike6996 · Jul 21, 2015

5 feet deep seems excessive but I understand why

Carl_WI · Jul 22, 2015

I acquired 3 power poles and cut them at 17 ft. The county moved a road near Lake Michigan and the power company needed to plant new poles. I know a farmer there and he got them for me.

I staked and adjusted them. The next step is to fine tune there placement and cement them in. It is not easy moving a power pole over a few inches.

Cost so far.
3 power poles. Free
Cement saw & Hydro excavating. Barter for future PC repair
I did purchase the wood, steel roofing, and trim at Menards for $1600.00. (11% off sale)
1 trip to Chiropractor dang power poles. I did fork 10 loads of sh!t out of the barn last week, summer barn cleanout after baling hay.

Carl_WI · Jul 27, 2015

On Saturday morning at 7am it was already 80 deg. with 70% humidity. Started mixing cement and getting the poles set.

I measured from the shop wall out 14ft. to the center of the 3 poles. I also shot a beam to get 9ft. and cut them off with a chain saw.

I let the cement set a few hours and then filled the holes with gravel. I tried to move the poles and they won't budge. Next is to notch out the poles for the microlam beam and get the beam set.

Carl_WI · Jul 29, 2015

I will be attaching a 2x8 across the wall at 12 ft. Would it be easier to remove the entire wall or just cut a line across at 12 ft. and just remove the upper steel? Maybe it would be safer removing the entire wall and cut on the ground. Hopefully someone has been through this process.

Richard Cranium · Jul 29, 2015

keep us up to date with pictures.

sublime68charger · Jul 29, 2015

What are you cutting the wall with and what platform can you use for the cutting?

I would cut the wall in place but I can use a work basket on loader which is way way better than just standing in a loader bucket.

Carl_WI · Jul 30, 2015

I have a metal cutting blade in my skill saw that I used when I built the shop.
As far as a platform well I do have 2 sections of scaffolding and the front end loader. I could use ladders with a plank between them. If I go with scaffolding I would need 4 more sections then I could do the entire length with planks. That would also help with the roof installation having scaffolding.

Carl_WI · Jul 31, 2015

I started digging for the rain gutter drainage. When I built the shop I ran the drain tile to the edge of the cow yard. I will run 4” PVC from the tile to the pole and up 2 ft.

The exposed drain tile. When I installed it I chiseled a mark in the cement. It was easy to find.

Here is the drain tile when the shop was built.

dlcwent · Jul 31, 2015

I'm following this. Nice job on money saved. Didn't like seeing the snow on the ground in the first picture. Makes me think how quick it'll be here again. :sad:

Carl_WI · Aug 3, 2015

Got the 4 inch PVC installed and attached to the drain tile. I then filled in the base with gravel and compacted.

Mixed up 3 cement mixer loads and it just made it.

Justanoldguy · Aug 3, 2015

Carl_WI said:
Notice the cement squares. I put them in the holes. Menards wanted $26.00 each.

They look like Concrete squares to me :beer:

Carl_WI · Aug 25, 2015

They look like Concrete squares to me

I guess you are correct but that's just me. It's easier to buy a bag of cement , mix up a batch of cement in a cement mixer, pour cement, finish cement, walk on concrete???, so I call it cement. :dunno:

Now that the PGA is over, I worked 42 hrs. at the Fire Department, I can get back to the build.
I set up the scaffolding and notched out the poles for the microlams. I have 2, 12"x2"x16ft. microlams.

In the background I have hops growing. Soon I will harvest them and make a batch of beer. They are "German Northern Brewer" hops. This spring we taped the maple trees and I used maple syrup to finish the cream ale. That batch turned out really good. Has a creamy taste with a hint of maple.

I really need to gear up on this build as we are soon going to start cutting wood in September. I have a huge tree that overhangs a building to take down. Going to use a payloader and chain it up and remove the limbs that go over the building.

1949 caddyman · Aug 25, 2015

Nice build, and you make beer & grow your hops too!

Carl_WI · Aug 27, 2015

Last night we hung the microlam on the power poles with my good friend Rich. To my surprise I did not need to shim the beam to get it level. This was the first time I laid out all of the cut marks with a laser. I did cut the first pole a little crooked as I had to shim the side on top. I will be bolting the lam in place with 8 in. carriage bolts. Right now I used liquid nails glue and spikes.

This was a sweet sight.

The other two poles came out really well.

Tonight I will install the carriage bolts and clean up the site.

This weekend we plan on getting the roof up and the steel on. Hopefully the weather cooperates.

Carl_WI · Aug 27, 2015

1949 caddyman said:
Nice build, and you make beer & grow your hops too!

Thanks, I like to drink it too! :beer:

Carl

captain14 · Aug 27, 2015

Hopefully you can get it under roof and closed in before the tree comes down
So you only have to move the. wood once. I hate having to move stuff multiple times just to work around it.

Glad too see the level straight on the first try. Great feeling isn't it?

1949 caddyman · Aug 27, 2015

Carl_WI said:
Thanks, I like to drink it too!
Carl

Me too!

sublime68charger · Aug 27, 2015

Nice progress,

Any good stories from the pga event for the fire department?

Carl_WI · Aug 28, 2015

sublime68charger said:
Nice progress,

Any good stories from the pga event for the fire department?

We only had one call and it was 85 deg. and 70% humidity. The call came in to gear up and get down to the main gate. Gear up? So we put our bunker pants on and jumped into the UTV. We get to the main gate and they want us to search and pull out a guy suffering from heat exhaustion from a woodlot. He left the first aid tent and went to the woodlot and fell down the hill into the brush. They could not find him. We got 3/4 of the way there through the crowds (47K people there) and he popped back out. They then called us off and we went back to the station. I was soaked and the 71 deg. station felt really good. We got allot of things done, hose tested all of the hose except 5 in., washed and waxed all of the trucks, and power wash the entire outside of the Fire station. Glad there were no fires. We did get a car fire on the interstate but when we got there it was an engine overheated. Nice ride with the truck with lights and sirens going.

Carl_WI · Aug 29, 2015

We started with picking up 30 ft of Scaffolding. My two Son-in-laws and good friend Rich came over to help.

We cut the steel siding to fit the 2x8's and glued, spiked and lag bolted in. We then installed the J channel then the joist hangers.

View from the North side.

View from the south side.

I reinforced the Micro-lams with a 2x12x 4ft. and used galvanized 8 in. carriage bolts. This is where the two micro-lams joined.

In this view notice the flashing. I figured it would be easier to get the flashing in before the 2x4's. The next step is to nail 2x4's across the roof.
The roof pitch is 4.5 /12

sublime68charger · Aug 29, 2015

Nice progress, you showed up to work that is for sure,

To bad packer d took the night off, then again it's only preseason and won't mean anything in 2 weeks

Carl_WI · Aug 29, 2015

Here is some detail of the joist hangers, J channel, and upper flashing. We recessed the lag bolts into the 2x8 by 1/2 inch so they would not interfere with the joist hangers. We had some angry hornets. They had a nest up in the gable cap. No one got stung but the hornets did not like the hornet spray.

We got allot done today. I am surprised that we did not get rained out. Was overcast all day and last night it rained with not quite 1 inch.

sublime68charger · Aug 29, 2015

They never like the hornet spray, or wd 40 works well in a pinch, or any starting fluid as well though I'm sure you knew all that great progress thanks for the pics.

drg5490 · Aug 30, 2015

What size lumber are you using for the rafters? Looks good

Carl_WI · Aug 31, 2015

drg5490 said:
What size lumber are you using for the rafters? Looks good

I am using 2x8x16'.

Carl

Carl_WI · Aug 31, 2015

We finished up the framing and will start the steel soon. I still have a few things to do, trim off the microlam on both sides and install hurricane clips.

I also need to install inside closure strips on the wall by the flashing to keep water/ice from getting inside.

I am not sure what I want to do for the sides. I have two options here. I could just install fascia trim and gable trim or frame it out to look like a triangle to dress it up. I did purchase the trim originally.

Carl_WI · Sep 8, 2015

This weekend we installed the steel. Finding help was impossible as all of my friends were out of town. So the next best thing is to ask the Wife to help.
Placing the first sheet is always critical as you want the same overhang all the way down. I was off by an inch but the gable trim overlaps by 5 inches so we are good.

Lois is prying up the flashing so I can push the sheet under.

The finished roof. I just need to install the gable trim.

Since the scaffolding was still up I decided to install the lighting conduit and run the wire.

I will install a switch and outlet and then go inside and install another switch and outlet. The door will be installed to the left of the switch. The black poly pipe to the right is a 1 inch pipe for water. I have to pipe that into the workshop and hook up to the hydrant.

I will rent a skidster and flatten out the ground and put in 4 inches of gravel. I can then start to stack fire wood on skids.

sublime68charger · Sep 8, 2015

looking good Carl,

you'll be a happy camper when you have the firewood moved in for the year.

Carl_WI · Sep 8, 2015

sublime68charger said:
looking good Carl,

you'll be a happy camper when you have the firewood moved in for the year.

That is for sure. At the end of September I plan on starting the logging fun. I have all of my chain sharp and my saws ready. I need the wife to patch up my chaps as I did ding them with the saw last fall. My cell phone saved me as it was in my pants pocket where the chain hit me. The Chaps are a great thing.

This was a selfie last year logging. I converted my Husqvarna to a 20 in bar with narrow kerf chain. There is no anti kick back in that chain and it cuts allot faster as the chain is narrower than standard chain. It's not for the beginner and you have to hang on at all times when cutting.

Carl_WI · Sep 10, 2015

I have been thinking about the sliding door I need to install to access the shop from the lean too. I plan on a 4 ft. wide sliding door. I purchased the 8 ft. track and hardware. I have been searching on the internet for any detail on the proper way to build this. Any info would be great. I am worried about the door sliding past the steel siding and scratching the paint off.

Bassfishing54 · Sep 10, 2015

With the ribbed siding, isn't the sliding door header thick enough to set the door out far enough it won't hit? I would think you would want a bottom guide track also?
Glenn

sublime68charger · Sep 10, 2015

Bassfishing54 said:
With the ribbed siding, isn't the sliding door header thick enough to set the door out far enough it won't hit? I would think you would want a bottom guide track also?
Glenn

Poor mans bottom glide is to just put up a 2x4 and let the door rub on that

Carl_WI · Sep 14, 2015

This is where we started this weekend. I removed the scaffolding and graded the area under the lean-too. I used my IH 300 with a grader blade. I cut 8 inches next to the building and moved the dirt to the lower side to level out the space.

I then shoveled out the remaining dirt next to the foundation. I also cut the water pipe and put in a 90 deg. fitting to get the pipe next to the building.

I then used the Ford 4000 and hauled in the gravel. Between the tractor bucket and grader blade it was leveled off in a very short time.

I need to haul in more black dirt around the outside to ramp up to the new gravel level. I have about 15 inches on the left side. I have a pile of black dirt that I will use then I can move the small shed that is next to the Lean-too.

The lean-too is just about finished. The next step is to cut the door into the shop and finish the electrical. At least I am ready to stack firewood under the lean-too.

Carl_WI · Sep 16, 2015

We combined oats the other day during the Packers/Bears game on Sunday. I am glad the Packers did there thing without me cheering them on. I used the oats as a cover crop for my new hay field. I have about 100 bu. in the bin. The lean-to is working out great as rain is in the forecast.

Carl_WI · Oct 5, 2015

This weekend I started the door to the Lean-too.

Removed the insulation and two studs. Next I will remove the steel and start on the door frame and track.

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