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I bought it for 25 bucks on cl,dude said it was his dads and he spray painted it black,so when I can I'm going to refinish it.I removed the decal so I can take it to work and restore it.its a cool 26" 3 drawer cart with dividers built in to the drawers.
 
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Bought this Blackhawk original cardboard box this summer. It's I'm guessing about 1940's give or take. The jack that was inside is in nice shape, but it's not a Blackhawk from what I can tell.

In other news I'm working on a ID Guide for old Auto and Truck Jacks. Does anyone have any early catalogs for AUSCO ( autospecialties ) or SPUN STEEL ??? Or any other odd ball manufactures I'd love to have a scan copy of the auto sections. Early Blackhawk ?

I do have in my files a 1950's Blackhawk Porto-Power Catalog with 47pages.

If you have any old jacks I can try my best to ID them for you in exchange for permission to use the photos

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I passed this up at the antique store a few months ago, but it stuck in my mind and I went back today to pick it up. This is a Blackhawk T15 1/2-Drive Crank Speeder, patented Feb. 23, 1926. It was a lot rustier when I carried it home. I stuck it in my e-tank all afternoon and gave it a scotchbrite rubdown. Now it looks a lot better.

I am going to use it if I can get the ball to loosen in the drive. It is sunken in and doesn't pop out, so perhaps it is shot :-(

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Thanks for the ad; I love seeing vintage adverts for my old tools.

I really hope I can get the ball loosened up. I am going to soak it in atf and acetone and wiggle it for a week or two, once a day. This was built like a tank and it would still be a good tool if I can fix it.
 

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my blackhawk hydrolic bender. ridgid, segment bending to 2" and 2" emt one shot.
 

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Ugh, I am so bummed. The ball bearing in my speeder crank will move pretty freely, but the spring behind it is either broken or frozen up. I am trying a vinegar soak as a last ditch try to hopefully dissolve any rust in there, but I am not optimistic.

Short of drilling the rear, punching out the ball, the replacing the screw and trying to swage the opening closed again, I am afraid this will never hold a socket properly.
 

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Still a great piece to display. I have one and you might have just inspired me to dig it out and clean it up. Also have the t handle that spins. I hope you get it working. Maybe it sat with a socket on it for years. Try the soak and perhaps some blows from a soft hammer in between.
 

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Still a great piece to display. I have one and you might have just inspired me to dig it out and clean it up. Also have the t handle that spins. I hope you get it working. Maybe it sat with a socket on it for years. Try the soak and perhaps some blows from a soft hammer in between.

I got it working! I gave the little project its own thread if anyone's interested. Lots of pics.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323473
 

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I stumbled across this neat Cat service box that i am considering purchasing. There are some original tools in it plus some other misc Proto, Bonney etc. I am wondering if anyone here has a list of what tools came in this set. As i understand it the original owner bought it as a complete set. First one i have seen in person.

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Check on the antique Caterpillar forum, I think there is a list you can find. Nice box, if you buy it can you post a pic of the tools. I have one of these and the smaller box, but no original tools.
 

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Check on the antique Caterpillar forum, I think there is a list you can find. Nice box, if you buy it can you post a pic of the tools. I have one of these and the smaller box, but no original tools.

Thanks for the tip, Sure i'll post pics, i saw quite a few blackhawk sockets and accessories in there but not much else Blackhawk.
 

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Here's something I picked up at an auto swap meet for $3 a couple of years ago. After some cleaning, it looks practically unused.

Any way to tell the date of manufacture?
 

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I stumbled across this neat Cat service box that i am considering purchasing. There are some original tools in it plus some other misc Proto, Bonney etc. I am wondering if anyone here has a list of what tools came in this set. As i understand it the original owner bought it as a complete set. First one i have seen in person.

Nice looking box. Too bad the owner scribbled all over it. Still a very nice box though. Go snag it ASAP!
 

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The owner is asking $650 cdn for it, tools included. Maybe $200 in tools IMO. Think the box is worth the difference?
 
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If you think the tools are worth $200 and the box is at least worth $300, offer $500 and see what happens. Good Luck!
 

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Picked up some toolboxes last week, including this one. Heard it may be a Blackhawk. It is very sturdy and very clean (no rust). I cant find any makers mark, though I have not taken out the drawers yet. Do I need a shim to remove the larger drawers like some of the Kennedy boxes?
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There's a reference in a US Army Ordnance Supply Catalog dated March 1945 to a 100-piece Blackhawk wrench set containing 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4 drive socket pieces, DBE wrenches, DOE engrs wrenches, and tappet wrenches. The model number for the Blackhawk set is 100W. That looks like it could be a peculiar Ordnance Dept number (W for Wrench set, 100 for the number of pieces). For other tool-sets in the same catalog, however, it is actually the mfgr's model number. A midget socket set cites Bonney's V52 as the mfgr's model number, just to name one example. And Blackhawk did like to use the number of pieces in its sets in its model number schemes (e.g. 28-QD was a 28-pc Quick Disconnect set, etc)

There are no mfgr's model numbers provided for the individual pieces in the 100-piece Blackhawk set, except for the box. The model number for the box, categorized as a chest, is W. According to the description, the dimensions are 22" long x 9" high by 8" wide, and it comes with a removable tray, and a single key chain and lock.

Unlike the other Mfgrs cited for the other tools and tool-sets (e.g., Bonney, Duro-Chrome, SK, etc) in the Ordnance Supply Catalog, I have no wartime Blackhawk catalog to consult, and I don't know of anyone who has ever posted any contents from a wartime or even an immediate pre-war Blackhawk catalog.

Given the above explanation and descriptions, does anyone recognize the toolset, the box, and/or the model numbers?

I can provide the detailed piece-part specs. I thought I would start with the big picture first.
 
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I think I found my own answer (pending one clarification) on the Tool Archives site, on page 347 of a 1939 Shadbolt & Boyd catalog, here... http://toolarchives.com/sites/default/files/1939SBAll.pdf ...which provides a contents list for several large Blackhawk Master Wrench Sets. The last column is for sets 100W and 100DS. The clarification I need is, who knows the difference between the W and the DS line?

The chest is proving more difficult. There are several Blackhawk drop front boxes in the same catalog (model No. CB, the box for set with model No. 50B, etc) with similar dimensions. But, there is no chest with a model number W.
 

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just thought i'd jump into the thread. awhile back a guy posted this jack on cl. he was moving out of the country and wasn't taking it and was giving it away! i replied and was the chosen 1.
 

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I think I found my own answer (pending one clarification) on the Tool Archives site, on page 347 of a 1939 Shadbolt & Boyd catalog, here... http://toolarchives.com/sites/default/files/1939SBAll.pdf ...which provides a contents list for several large Blackhawk Master Wrench Sets. The last column is for sets 100W and 100DS. The clarification I need is, who knows the difference between the W and the DS line?

The chest is proving more difficult. There are several Blackhawk drop front boxes in the same catalog (model No. CB, the box for set with model No. 50B, etc) with similar dimensions. But, there is no chest with a model number W.

Don't know if these will help Lugz. The nicer box I believe is set 52 or 53W.
 

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I also recently picked this up off eBay.
 

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Yes. Those four natural steel sockets are war production 1941 and 1944. Very likely for a Blackhawk Master Mechanic's Wrench Set 100W that went under the cab of an M25 (40-ton tank transporter truck-trailer). US Army Ordnance Dept.

Here ya go, Slew, and any other Blackhawk junkie looking for another set to collect... :lol: :eyecrazy:

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Almost always missing! When I see them loose I grab them, especially since they're rarely marked, therefore rarely distinguishable from one brand to another. The trouble is the holes in handles are not always the same size.
 

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Almost always missing! When I see them loose I grab them, especially since they're rarely marked, therefore rarely distinguishable from one brand to another. The trouble is the holes in handles are not always the same size.

All Blackhawk cross bars should be marked............
 

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That's good to know, Todd. Thanks. I was speaking in general. Other than putting 2 and 2 together on the BKM-100W set in the 1945 Ordnance catalog and the M25 set in the 1944 TM being the same sets, matching that to the 100W set in the 1939 S&B catalog, and picking out a few sockets I have found, I haven't really delved into the actual tools ID too far. Thanks again.
 

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Hello group, been lurking here for a little while in the vintage area and finally came across something cool enough to share. Traded my brother for it. Dont really have a use or the space for it just gonna clean it up and throw it on the CL. Figured I'd share it here first.It's a Blackhawk potopower cart.
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