In this sentence..."I was just interested in seeing if Don's hunch about the WMQCA's being possibly Thorsen-made panned out physically, even if they are later."... YES. My bad. Older.
Oh, I remembered your 2015 find and the thread as soon as I saw the wrench at the flea market. As you may or may not recall I posted the old script Indian adjustable wrench that I just posted above in your thread back in 2015 originally. And when I first posted my find on the Vlchek thread last night, before I posted it here (you may have missed it - it was quickly followed by a few completely unrelated Vlchek items), I gave you credit for your 2015 find.
I don't know for sure - I have yet to find a definitive source for vintage Indian toolkit history and info, which seems almost inconceivable given its popularity among restoration enthusiasts. That guy on the G might be a good resource, but his info seems to be coming from WWII era manuals and in reference to the 841. My working theory is that Vlchek supplied them to Hendee for the factory kits and also or perhaps later made them marked like these as non-descript generic kits. The tie between Vlchek and Indian kits is unambiguous. Look at the adjustable wrench with the Indian script again. I have never seen a Mfgr other than Vlchek make an adjustable bike or auto type wrench with a sweep like that in the handle. Only Vlchek. That sweep handle is a Vlchek tell. And almost every Indian kit or partial kit I see shown or for sale has one of those in it. So barring any definitive info to the contrary, I am calling it Indian-associated, at the very least.
Snap-on 1/8" x 7/64". I think it is the smallest wrench that I have.
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here's a crappy pic of a really nice set of "Elora" metric offset double-end box wrenches I just received:
A few from yesterday.
First, Proto LA 1163, 1 5/8 x 1 7/16
Plomb 1053, 1 3/8 x 1 5/16. Perhaps someone can help with the size markings?
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The size inside the parentheses - "1-5/16" - is the actual size of the 12-point milled opening on your wrench. The "AS" is short for American Standard, and the "7/8" is the size of the jam nut and bolt (not the O.D. of the head on the bolt, or the O.D. of the nut, but the O.D. of the threaded business end) that the wrench would be used to turn, similar to the way antique into early vintage wrenches will have S.A.E. bolt, U.S.S. bolt, or even Hex Cap screw sizes marked on the face of the jaw instead of the actual milled opening size. Some Plomb wrenches were also marked with a "USS" size (for U.S. Standard bolts) and the milled opening in parentheses.
If you mean when did American Standard go out of vogue, I'm not sure, but I think Am. Std., U.S.S., and Hex Cap all disappeared by the late 40's/early 50's when S.A.E. fastener thread form and sizing pretty much won the standardization race. If you mean when did bolt size (of any standard) markings disappear from wrenches, that was in the 1930's, at large, but there are certain kinds of wrenches in WWII, from Plomb in particular, that you find them on. I think it was a contract thing.
I dug out my copy of Machinery’s Handbook for a couple of pictures. Mine is the 1944 wartime edition.
That is cool on the buckeye. I see they have carlon as a sub. Big manufacturer of plastic products in electrical. Quite the change of products.I posted these over on the Garage Sale thread already, but am recording them here because...well, because this is The DBE thread!
Buckeye deep offset, 11/16" x 5/8"--first of this brand for me!
Riverside deep offset, 9/16" x 1/2"
Lectrolite 3002 deep offset, 1/2" x 9/16"
Forged Select Steel deep offset, 1/2" x 9/16"
The Buckeye wrench is associated (according to Alloy Archives) with the Lamson & Sessions Company, which is still in business, just not making tools any more.
http://www.lamson-sessions.com/OurHistory.html
