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Thomas and Tim, the map is pretty cool to see how far it has traveled and what all areas it has been around. I do have one question though, did no one ever read the book in the center of the universe? :)

JB



While the pin at the COTU is different, it still signifies that Thomas & Chris were readers 2 and 3.

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Tim is correct! The book set us on another part of our journey making new friends across the globe and making Beltsville Shell an international hit (we have the map to prove it)! We'll be meeting up again with author Cary Thomas and wife Nan in March when we make our yearly trek to southern CA. We feel fortunate to have connected with them (and even found we had friends in common!), especially since our little international traveling book club may have taken some $ away from his profits on the book.

Thomas is keeping busy with projects. We had some mild days in December and January, so he was able to get the Corvettes out for some exercise. I started working on taxes, car club planning, apartment work with some new tenants for second semester, library board work, and high school alumni association volunteer activities. Christmas and New Year's were in there somewhere.

The journey continues. Thanks for coming along for the ride.

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Tim,
Yep I completely missed that one, sorry for my over site.

Chris,
Rather than taking business from Cary and Nan I think you have brought them business, I know I have a copy of my own and am sure others have as well. Think about it this way, the book is so popular that you have a waiting list years in the making.

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JB’s correct. I got mine after reading the traveling version. Had to have a copy!

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Way down here, sweltering through summer.


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Chris,
Rather than taking business from Cary and Nan I think you have brought them business, I know I have a copy of my own and am sure others have as well. Think about it this way, the book is so popular that you have a waiting list years in the making.

JB


Let there be no misunderstanding, Cary is completely, totally, 100% in support of the Brotherhood of the Traveling Book. He thinks it's fantastic that the book is being read, shared and talked about literally all over the world. Writing the book was always a labor of love for him with no profit motive involved in any way, shape or form. Much like my restoring Mr. Johnson's old shop, it was a labor of love for me with no thought ever of eventually selling it to make a profit.

I think I'm the one who joked that with all the "lost" book sales he'd have to work an extra year or two before he could afford to retire. All in good fun. :)

I know of Lyndon and others who did indeed purchase a copy for their own after reading BS 1.0. I have bought a few copies myself over the years and have used them as gifts, so yeah JB, I think you're correct.

While we're on the subject, BS 1.0 is being mailed out tomorrow to dchance in Oklahoma to start its latest tour.

And lastly for those interested, my brother is giving me a hand wiring up the wood shop in the basement. I feel a lot better having him give me some guidance on the 3 phase aspect of it. Stand by for that.

Thomas
 

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I should have included an LOL after my comment about the traveling book club. Cary expressed his support early on. "Lost book sales" was never a concern. It's become a great discussion point thinking about where the book has traveled, how many people it's touched, and how many new friends we've made in the process.

We're looking forward to our trip out to southern CA. Reconnecting with friends is always the most fun of the trip.

More snow is coming for us this coming weekend. They're calling for 10"-12" with up to 45mph winds. Winter is definitely here. Groundhog Day in less than 3 weeks may give us a hint of how long it will last.

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I've got 4 different voltages and or phases that are going to be incorporated in the wood shop to power the various machines.



This is a bracket I fabricated to mount the 3 phase, 480 volt outlets for the planer and jointer.



I use twist lock plugs and the 3p/480v outlets...



...will be mounted near the ceiling just as they were in the old wood shop as seen above. That way the power cords will hand straight down.



I'll also need 3 phase, 240 volt outlets, single phase 240 volt outlets and numerous single phase 110 volt outlets. All of these boxes seen above...




...will be mounted on various support posts in the shop. Machine placement is just about set...



...but I don't have this end finalized yet, but I will shortly. :)

Thomas
 

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Hugo L - if anything, Thomas' brother, the electrician, is enriching Tom's life by guiding him through the ins and outs of the electrical maze that will connect up all the wood shop equipment in the basement. They help each other all the time, sharing tools and skills along the way. It helps to have an electrical engineer in the family.

It looks like we'll be staying in Saturday due to a "named" winter storm that will race through here with high winds and snow. I think we'll be on the edge of it, not taking the full force. My pantry is full and the fireplace will be a nice place to be sitting near while watching many hours of the Barrett-Jackson auction. We have one acquaintance out there driving cars across the auction stage, another just attending as a birthday present to himself, and another who had two of his cars sell in the auction. And 2 more days to come!

Happy winter!

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I for one am glad to see Thomas posting pictures again.
I was having some withdrawal. I know he is doing interesting "stuff".

I have been working quietly in the background true enough. As for interesting "stuff", yesterday was something of a high water mark around here. Close to 40 years after I cut, milled and stored this piece of spectacular black walnut...





...it was permanently installed in the fireplace! Several years in the making...











To get the finish I was happy with...



...took 20 coats of Danish oil. I let it dry several days, sometimes weeks to get it thoroughly dried before applying the next coat. Once I get it finished tuck pointed into the surrounding stone next week, I'll do my final finishing work consisting of buffing with white scotch bright and then a few coats of wax polishing all the while. It'll look better than it does here, it's covered in finger prints from the installation. There is no stain, that's the natural color of this particular piece of wood.



The lighting here is not ideal but it gives you an idea. Once I get everything back in place around the fireplace I'll post a picture of that for you. Next up...



...getting this work space completed. Don't go away. :)


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20 coats!! Yikes.
The result is spectacular.
Another example of your vision, patience and diligence.

Looking forward to the woodshop setup.
 

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Sorry to hijack this incredible thread, but it's good to see you post again CC. It's been a while seen I've seen you around.
 

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xtremek - no worries. I don't consider it hijacking. I, too, hadn't seen a post from CudaChick1968 in awhile. But then I've been very busy so haven't looked around the forum much past our own thread.... I hope your business is continuing to thrive.

When we find good craftsmen and shops to help with the property, we use them and recommend them to others. We want them to stay around. It's good for the economy and small business ownership which is the backbone of the US economy.

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Mr. Thomas, if you don't mind me asking:

How are you holding the mantle to the fireplace?

I'd come wire the shop for you in exchange for a ride in the vette's.

Steve AKA 71MKIV
 
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Mantle Installation

Mr. Thomas, if you don't mind me asking:

How are you holding the mantle to the fireplace?

I'd come wire the shop for you in exchange for a ride in the vette's.

Steve AKA 71MKIV

Steve you're on! Come for a ride in the Vette anytime and if you happen to wire the shop while you're here.......bonus!!

The attachment of the mantel is an excellent and important question. If you'll indulge me I'll map out the whole process during construction of the fireplace.

To begin we had to make a "plug" with a profile...





...that was the exact dimension of the finished mantle.



That plug was in turn, covered with visqueen which was stapled to the plug. The visqueen will help with removal of the plug later.



The plug was to give us the profile of the mantle while the fireplace stone was built around it since the mantle was going to be recessed into the stone about 2"-3" (5-7.6 cm). If you'll note the smoke shelf behind the plug. That prevents the mantle from being set back into the stone any deeper.



The plug also carried the weight of the stone that was laid directly above it until the mortar had cured. You might remember that's my buddy Steve who was the master fireplace constructor and was responsible for the internal design. You'll hear more about him in a later post.



The plug was left in during the complete construction and cleaning of the fireplace stone.



The plug was then removed, leaving a pocket the exact dimension of the finished mantle. 2 holes, 1/2" in diameter, 4" deep, were drilled in the pocket.



Re-bar would eventually be placed in those holes as seen.



The ends of the re-bar that went into those holes was ground slightly to reduce the diameter of the re-bar.





2 short pieces of re-bar were ground to a sharp point seen in the top picture and placed in the holes as seen above. Then the finished mantle was placed in the pocket and tapped into place and then removed. The pointed re-bar left 2 marks on the back side of the mantle, indicating where to drill.



I used my great grandfathers' brace and bit set from his large wood tool box to drill...



...those holes in the back of the mantle. They were slightly oversized from the diameter of the re-bar.



Next using PC7 Epoxy...

https://www.pcepoxy.com/products/permanent-repair/pc-7-paste-epoxy/

...the re-bar was "buttered" with PC7 and then...



... placed into the holes in the back of the mantle. Then the exposed ends of the re-bar were buttered and the holes...



...in the pocket were lightly "buttered" with PC7. After that, the mantle was lifted into position and slid into the pocket.



Wood shims were used to level the mantle and help wedge it into place while the PC7 cured. I might mention that the mantle was "dry fitted" into place before the epoxy was used to ensure all the holes were deep enough and aligned correctly.

Steve has been constructing fireplaces for 40 years and he has developed this method of mantle attachment as the only one he's ever found that will hold up for decades of use and not let the mantle eventually work loose. So there you have it. We're planning on the finish tuck pointing in a couple of days, so please check back.

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Yea, that PC7 is good stuff.

Thank you Thomas for the explanation. Much more detailed than I expected.

Looking forward to the electrical work.

Steve aka 71MKIV
 
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Re: Mantle Installation

Is that a little worm damage in that beautiful piece of walnut Thomas, or just some surface damage?

Pete

That's powder post beetle activity Pete. That type of damage in the sapwood is very common.



It might show up better on this cut-off piece from the mantle. The sapwood, light colored on the right side, shows several areas of powder post beetle activity but it is confine to only the sapwood since that's relatively soft material. That part of lumber is normally cut off and almost never used.

When I started to size and cut the mantle wood slab, what little sapwood that was not cut off, I oriented to the backside of the mantle knowing it would be covered up in the pocket and never seen.



Here you can see before I tuck pointed, that the mantle is positioned back, several inches into the surrounding stone and the sapwood is totally buried in back. I got it all tuck pointed today so it'll be dry tomorrow and I'll see if I can get some pictures posted if the sunlight cooperates.

Meanwhile, here's my great-grandfathers old wood tool box frame finished.







Got a nice snug fit all around on it. Nothing exciting or glamours, but extremely functional. My great grandpa would approve.

Thomas
 

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Thomas, I'm sure that several followers of your thread, which includes me, consider that tool chest isn't just a tool chest but a "treasure chest" that keeps many treasures from a bygone era hidden from view. That frame that you constructed will insure it survives for many more years. Also, I think you know if you tried to buy that piece walnut, it would have cost a bunch of $$$$.$$!
 
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Thomas, I'm sure that several followers of your thread, which includes me, consider that tool chest isn't just a tool chest but a "treasure chest" that keeps many treasures from a bygone era hidden from view. That frame that you constructed will insure it survives for many more years. Also, I think you know if you tried to buy that piece walnut, it would have cost a bunch of $$$$.$$!

That is a good analogy TR6SR650. I've pretty much considered it a treasure chest my whole life. I suspect the mobile frame will forever more be as one with the tool chest.

As for the walnut mantle slab...









...priceless. :)

Thanks everybody.

Thomas
 

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Thanks Thomas, I've not had much experience with walnut.
It was a nice fireplace before, but with the mantle fixed in it's beautiful.

Are you going to show us more of the inside of that treasure chest? I assume that frame is powder coated.

Pete
 

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..... Annnnd done! It has taken me just over 4 months, but I finally finished this incredible thread. Wow, what a journey! You can add me to the list of long time Garage Journal lurkers (probably over 10 years) who felt strongly enough about the amazing story told and just plain good feelings generated here that I decided to register just to be able to make a comment. (Sorry about that run-on sentence) Thank you, thank you, thank you.

PS - Would it be too forward of me as a first timer to ask about getting on the Beltsville Shell reader's list?
 
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Thanks Everyone!

Oh boy, many thanks to all of you for the years of continued interest, positive comments and support. This single thread is over 8 years in the making and through it all, many of you have become friends that I look forward to chatting with here every time I check in. I honestly couldn't and wouldn't have done it without your genuine support.

Pete, for most things, walnut is my primary "go-to" wood for high quality cabinetry.



It's tight grained, beautifully figured and takes on a glorious, warm finish. This walnut is from the same walnut tree that the mantle was made from.



It also doesn't hurt that I've got more of it than I'll probably ever use. :)

I absolutely will open up the tool box and discuss/share the treasures that are within..... but right now I'm ******* with getting the proper shop electrical systems installed. I'd like to have better lighting to photograph the tools. At present the lighting there is temporary and is terrible. :eek:

BTW, yes of course, the tool box frame is powdered coated and is equipped with some terrific quality, sealed ball bearing Blickle casters. Fingers crossed, the frame should last as long as the tool box does and I hope that to be a very long time.

red, I do indeed derive much joy and satisfaction every time I look at the fireplace. Building it was a long, hard pull...



...from excavating the footing for it...



...to building the block foundation...



...to pouring the stone and hearth pad...



...to start building the fire box...



...and then finishing the fire box...



...to starting to prep for the stone work...



...and then begin the stone work...





...to finishing the inside stone work...



...and continue work on the chimney...



...until...



...the chimney's all done except for...



...installation of the rain cap...



...which finishes the outside work, meanwhile...



...inside a proper slate hearth needed to be installed. Even with all that and crafting the mantle along with a myriad other fussy details it was all worthwhile.



And the best part is it works exceptionally well, just as designed. :thumbup:

Thomas
 
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..... Annnnd done! It has taken me just over 4 months, but I finally finished this incredible thread. Wow, what a journey! You can add me to the list of long time Garage Journal lurkers (probably over 10 years) who felt strongly enough about the amazing story told and just plain good feelings generated here that I decided to register just to be able to make a comment. (Sorry about that run-on sentence) Thank you, thank you, thank you.

PS - Would it be too forward of me as a first timer to ask about getting on the Beltsville Shell reader's list?


Hello MrScott99, and a most warm welcome to you sir. I do so appreciate your thoughtful 1st post. Many thanks for that. I wouldn't have kept this thread going if it weren't for folks like you. As you can tell, Chris and I have a lot of fun here and so does our gang of which you are now an "official" member. :beer:

I am delighted to add you to the Beltsville Shell readers list. As a quick review, if you would private message (PM) me with your mailing information and also PM the person in front of you on the list (Paul_VR6) with your mailing information.

1. - dchance

2. - Joe-R

3. - eokie1

4. - B.Cueva

5. - Ms Bowman

6. - Paul_VR6

7. - MrScott99

When Paul is done with it, he'll PM you to confirm you still want to read it and that he has your correct mailing information. Once you receive it, first thing I'd do before you forget, is sign off on one of the back pages just under where Paul signed it. If there is another person on the list after you, that's who you'll contact to mail it to them. If you're the last one on the list, you'll mail it to me. I'll supply you with my mailing address if need be.

I have sent you a PM which should be in your inbox.

Once again, welcome to our merry band! :thumbup:

Thomas
 

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Morning Thomas,

I wonder how many forum threads have passed 8.7 million views in 9 years.

Entertainment for sure.

Great to see the progress of the fire place


Weirdly, one of my favourite photos and places was selection, and lay out of the stone as it went up.
 

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Good morning Mr Thomas,
The frustrated engineer in me has two questions, one of which might be for your mason friend:
Is there a standard for the size/weight of a freestanding chimney? IE for one so tall it must be so wide by so deep?
And are the external air intakes for combustion air? or do they exit into the metal faced void and pass warmed air back into the room?
I don't see how you get anything done. I'd always be ensconced in my recliner in front of that.

COTU, the happy confluence of desire, skill, time and money, and the willingness to share it with this fortunate band of GJ'ers.
and to think, that for me, it started with a random picture of a tree growing through an unfortunate antique frame.

<salute>

Steve aka 71MKIV
 

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Thomas,
Thanks for your post and notes about the Blickle casters. I’ve spoken with Ms. Keonta Grant and a set is on its way for my project.

As for your walnut supply I think of my daughter who knits. Those that accumulate what some think as a large collection of yarn refer to it as STABLE: STAsh Beyond Life Expectancy.


Thanks for the updates.
Brian
 

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Looks so nice seeing the mantel done. I think a lot about your great grandfathers tool box having seen it in person, how cool it is for you to have that? Still enjoying the adventure,carry on.
 

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Re: Mantle Installation


A man spends his life becoming a journeyman craftsman and in that lifetime he fills a box with the hard-won tools of his trade. His great-grandson takes the values of hard work and education, passed down through the generations, and builds a life and a beautiful home for his family whom he adores, and in his spare time, he shares many stories of his passions and humbly displays his own high level of craftsmanship (and seemingly unlimited array of talents) with a worldwide community. And then, just to keep it all grounded, the great-grandson takes care to preserve that tool box properly and respectfully for future generations.

Thomas, to say he would approve is one of the understatements of our time.
 
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Good morning Mr Thomas,
The frustrated engineer in me has two questions, one of which might be for your mason friend:
Is there a standard for the size/weight of a freestanding chimney? IE for one so tall it must be so wide by so deep?

And are the external air intakes for combustion air? or do they exit into the metal faced void and pass warmed air back into the room?
I don't see how you get anything done. I'd always be ensconced in my recliner in front of that...............

Steve aka 71MKIV

Good early morning Steve, it just so happens that later this morning I'll be seeing Steve, my fireplace genius friend, and I'll ask him about your questions regarding freestanding chimneys. I'll post what he has to say about them.

Now, about the external combustion air. That's an excellent question! First a little background and theory. Some of this is a repeat, but many of the following supporting pictures are new.

As we all know, a fire needs air (oxygen) to burn. If you don't supply air from outside the home, a fireplace will take room air and burn it. As it burns room air, replacement outside air will find its way into the home through all the various cracks and crevices in the exterior of the home. That creates drafts in the home and you've also burned nice, warm, room air that your house heating system has warmed up. Not very efficient, so we supply outside air for the fireplace to burn. That leaves warm, room air in the house and not burned in the fireplace; much more efficient. Here's how we did that.



Here is the fireplace under construction before the concrete pad that supports the stone and hearth is poured. At the top of the picture you see the ends of the combustion air intakes where they are outside the home. They then pass through notches in the concrete sill and connect to the combustion air openings on the hearth. Those openings are plugged with wood here to prevent concrete from getting in them during the pour.



Here's a side view of the same thing. Note the re-bar to reinforce the concrete.



And here's a view from outside the house looking in. You'll notice the concrete pour for the hearth has begun in the background.



Here the concrete pour is all completed from inside and...



...outside. I might also point out that the back of the fireplace is not outside the home as is commonly done. Rather the fireplace is completely within the heated envelope of the house. That greatly helps efficiency also.



Squint hard and you can see the two round combustion air duct openings, now surrounded by brick.



In time those ducts were finished off by installing...



...manual opening/closing louvers.



Once the generator and decks were completed you can barely see the left hand louver.



Here that louver is seen from the deck by the bottom step. The right hand louver is hidden under the deck but an access panel for it was built in while the deck was under construction.



Inside the house on the hearth, the combustion air openings (here located under the blue painters tape) are covered with opening doors and have a manual, adjustable butterfly valve within the duct. When those doors and butterfly valves are all closed, no outside air can leak in. They are only opened when a fire is burning.

So all that my combustion air ducts do, is provide outside air directly to the front of the firebox opening. Virtually no room air is burned by the fire, only outside air is used by the fire. It's a very simple system, but it greatly enhances the efficiency of the fireplace. There is no metal faced void anywhere.

I hope that wasn't a too long winded response Steve. It should give you an excellent idea of what, why and how my external, combustion air system works.

Thomas
 
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