It is a craftsman box. I have the same one in my basement. It was once all grey and had a crowntop logo.
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Thanks.I was just about to post that I found a Sears catalog online from '72 and it looks identical. Makes sense we paid $20 for the box full of tools and got a smaller craftsman with the crown top logo for free with it. The old man had also spray painted it black. Thank you all for you help. I also used some nail polish remover on the top of the lid and I see the gray paint underneath. Appreciate all the help. Now I just got to remove the spray paint. Projects on top of projects.
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Amazing you still have that. I have gone through dozens of those assortments, they always come with the box so the empties get chucked or lost.
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Just picked these up about an hour ago on letgo. Not sure who made the one with the turtle on the box.
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Turtlewax?
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I think that box is a Dodge **** Pack box from the '60's. Not sure who actually made it.
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I was thinking it was something MOPAR related as well
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Oh ok, it's a bumble bee. **** pack makes sense.
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I thought it was a turtle also. All my pops said after I got it was he had seen it before in the 70s. I'll have to give it a look over for date codes or manufactures codes later. Even though it's Mopar it still looks cool to me.
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I want to say Vermont American made those
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As I was saying on the 2019 Garage Sale thread, I picked up this flip-top style box at an antique shop in Havre de Grace, MD, just north of Aberdeen Proving Grounds, on Monday. Down there for some work, popped over there at lunch time, score!
There have been a few of these found and shown here in this thread over the years. They were used to tote around the GMTK, issued, one each, to every general mechanic in the Army in WWII. (To see one example of a complete kit and more information on the WWII GMTK, go to my "Living History Display" thread, linked here.) The boxes were made by Hamilton Metal Products, Union, and E. J. McAleer. Like my fellow GMTK collectors here on GJ, I have had several of them and still have a few.
This one is a Hamilton with a stamped wartime FSN (41-B-1840) inside the lids. The original postwar puke green color dates this one to the late 40's or early 50's, and no later than 1953, but it is identical in markings and construction (# of hinge elements, ornate corner feet, lift-out tray supports, one oiler hole tray, and the shape of the handle on the tray) to the WWII boxes, which are uncommon and highly sought after. So it'll be a new project box.
It is dusty with surface rust, but structurally sound. A few pinholes in the bottom that I am going to just spackle with JB Weld. Then I am going to blast it, prime it, refinish it in a WWII OD color with my "barn find" techniques, just like the one I used as an example in my thread linked here, and offer it to someone collecting a WWII GMTK in need.
There have been a few of these found and shown here in this thread over the years. They were used to tote around the GMTK, issued, one each, to every general mechanic in the Army in WWII. (To see one example of a complete kit and more information on the WWII GMTK, go to my "Living History Display" thread, linked here.) The boxes were made by Hamilton Metal Products, Union, and E. J. McAleer. Like my fellow GMTK collectors here on GJ, I have had several of them and still have a few.
This one is a Hamilton with a stamped wartime FSN (41-B-1840) inside the lids. The original postwar puke green color dates this one to the late 40's or early 50's, and no later than 1953, but it is identical in markings and construction (# of hinge elements, ornate corner feet, lift-out tray supports, one oiler hole tray, and the shape of the handle on the tray) to the WWII boxes, which are uncommon and highly sought after. So it'll be a new project box.
It is dusty with surface rust, but structurally sound. A few pinholes in the bottom that I am going to just spackle with JB Weld. Then I am going to blast it, prime it, refinish it in a WWII OD color with my "barn find" techniques, just like the one I used as an example in my thread linked here, and offer it to someone collecting a WWII GMTK in need.
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Fowl: top box looks like a NAPA or second guess is Waterloo. not sure on bottom one.
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Thanks drives. I know I’ve seen the logo on the top box before. I just can’t place it. Bottom looks to rough for my taste, but price is right, so they may join my collection tomorrow, I’ll salvage parts off the bottom and use the top
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Top is a Waterloo.Anyone got a quick ID on these boxes?
Bottom one looks rough, top one looks ok
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I do believe I owned one of those before - though I don't remember if it had the 41-B markings. It went to a GJ member back East a couple years ago.
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Shared this on the Craftsman box thread, but thought I'd go ahead and show here as well. Before and after photos of my red and gray 1975 upper and 1967 lower I just reassembled tonight. Going with cork in the drawers and hope to get that finished tomorrow.
Edit: Added a photo after installing the drawer liners. I have more invested in the cork liner material than in the boxes!
Edit: Added a photo after installing the drawer liners. I have more invested in the cork liner material than in the boxes!
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Just picked these up about an hour ago on letgo. Not sure who made the one with the turtle on the box.
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If you look on eBay for "Super Bee Tool Box" there are three right now. Yours is superior to all of them. I guess they were a promo item and made from Mopar steel (rusty). https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...cat=0&_odkw=super+bee+tool+box&LH_TitleDesc=0
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I remember those boxes being sold at JC Penney as a kid. I thought the racing stripe and and the drag wheels was too cool.
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Rileysan
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Hello All,
Found this small craftsman box for $2.00 at a yard sale. Any idea what came inside it? Not sure what the middle bracket held.
That box is for the reversible screw driver and speed reducer set.
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Thanks so much, I could not find any info and it was driving me crazy!!
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Nice snag OTG. I hope the guy finds the tools!
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He had one circle u ratchet, but was not sure if it came with it. My Moore 1/4 set fits in there. Maybe some of the craftsman experts could clue me in on the contents
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This clip is from the 1954 catalog OTG. Looks like second generation boxheads from MDF in it. They ran that cabinet for several years (from when to when I can't confirm, perhaps Rileysan will have the answer to that).
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A whopping 95$!
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887.25 in todays dollars!
Rileysan
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This clip is from the 1954 catalog OTG. Looks like second generation boxheads from MDF in it. They ran that cabinet for several years (from when to when I can't confirm, perhaps Rileysan will have the answer to that).
I was pondering that question even before you threw down the challenge!
For those who are wondering, I have the entire collection of Craftsman catalogs digitized on DVD and am happy to post snippets as time allows now that I have a new PC - something I was without for all of last year through last month.
Anyways, I'll start with the carpenters' cabinet. I found the first catalog depiction in the 1950 catalog. What's interesting is this statement ...
That means the first wall hanging cabinet (carpenters') from Sears was in the fall of 1949. I learned something new!
The cabinet was sold empty for $12.50
The following year (1951), Sears introduced the mechanics' cabinet in the Sears master catalog for $16.50 (empty) or as an option for the 90 piece mechanics' tool set offered for $85.00. No word on whether it had been in the previous fall catalog.
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Rileysan
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In 1952, Sears added a full page color advertisement for the 90 piece mechanics' tool set. The cabinet was still available by itself for $19.95 while the entire set was $85.95. If only I could get one at that price!
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So to try and answer OTG's question about the possibility of the cabinet containing any circle-U tools:
The first, and most obvious observation is that the buyer could have bought an empty cabinet and filled it with whatever he wanted.
However, I think it (remotely) possible to have NOS circle-U included in a mechanics' tool set - in particular, the 1/4" socket set which was offered through at least 1948 and used the same socket box as the MDF sets from that timeframe - but I doubt very much that a mechanics' tool cabinet could have shipped with all circle-U socket sets.
Just my two cents!
Brian
The first, and most obvious observation is that the buyer could have bought an empty cabinet and filled it with whatever he wanted.
However, I think it (remotely) possible to have NOS circle-U included in a mechanics' tool set - in particular, the 1/4" socket set which was offered through at least 1948 and used the same socket box as the MDF sets from that timeframe - but I doubt very much that a mechanics' tool cabinet could have shipped with all circle-U socket sets.
Just my two cents!
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Maybe he will come up with more tools
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Anyone have any spare drawers and clips for a old red and gray sitting around? I got this good condition top and bottom for a decent price, just missing the drawer and a few clips. I acquired three more tops for almost nothing, but none of them match the drawer I need. Would like to have this one completed, its filling up with old vintage tools and a lot of new and used boxed craftsman tools.
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The clips are available on eBay as well, not the cheapest but work.
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