RTM
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Versa Vise, Gyro Vise and Parrot Vise are three names I have seen. Don't know of a generic name.
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Versa Vise, Gyro Vise and Parrot Vise are three names I have seen. Don't know of a generic name.
GETRIDAONE
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I think that was Krylon or Ace Hdw. Banner Red
Just to finish things up, a back opening vise with covered screw. Also inverted dovetail, no idea who made it, polish or east german.
Update: found this auction https://www.ebay.de/itm/392565450836
And you can see the logo.
Also note that the blue angleish late east german SZ vises uses an inverted dovetail, too.
Update: found this auction https://www.ebay.de/itm/392565450836
And you can see the logo.
Also note that the blue angleish late east german SZ vises uses an inverted dovetail, too.
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They are unofficially called a gunsmith vise. However, and I know a few pro smiths, very few actually use them. Especially on modern firearms. They seem to be more popular with stock makers and woodworkers, particularly carvers.
Polish vise
Shiftless
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zkling:
That’s totally obscure. Might it be European? I didn’t see any references in a quick Google search and there is no Schlegal vise listed on the big spreadsheet. Do you have one of those?
That’s totally obscure. Might it be European? I didn’t see any references in a quick Google search and there is no Schlegal vise listed on the big spreadsheet. Do you have one of those?
Yes, they are German made. Same design as leinen, boley, gressel. There are a few mentions of them on here, but with little concrete evidence.
Not sure how you searched, but.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sch...ved=0ahUKEwiF3uLV7bzmAhURnOAKHd7hAW0Q_AUIICgC
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348548
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Mamrak76
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I think I found a real Peter Wright one this time, 40 bucks but a tad far away.
There is a old magazine print here:
https://www.renovateforum.com/f249/peter-wright-6-vice-123000/
Looks the same.
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jg4660
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Hi all, I picked up this vice today while out looking at a drill press. Its stuck in this position. The mechanism turns very hard but doesn't seem to be opening or closing, i didn't mess with it too much yet until i learn a little more about it. I understand its from the late 1800's. Anyone have any experience with these?
Thanks
JG
Thanks
JG
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Shiftless
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JG:
That has all the signs of a Frankenvise. Made up from parts from different vises.
The static part marked Meadville is probably 100+ years old. Yost acquired Meadville Vise Co. in 1910. The front moveable part doesn’t match. Not only the paint but the general form is from a much newer vise. It might be stiff because the thread pitch doesn’t match. Don’t force it. Take it apart if you can and inspect. You have an interesting piece of history and it might be a good donor for another project. Hopefully you didn’t pay big money.
zkling:
I misspelled Schlegel when I was Google searching. I should have checked more carefully.
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jg4660
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Thats what i was thinking too although the front piece seems to have the hole for the missing pipe clamp in the proper spot and theres some of that color paint on the static piece also. I'm gonna try and get it apart and see...
Shiftless
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The cylindrical nose piece to me is a definite sign that the rest of the vise is not from the same era. That vise would have had a ball shaped nose piece. The shape of the jaw tower doesn’t match.
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Productbob
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Smitty nice work on the holiday display!!
Shift cleanup on the #19 looks great as does the family shot
Mam 204R is a good vise to have around
Honda all good pictures, especially like the last photo
Shift cleanup on the #19 looks great as does the family shot
Mam 204R is a good vise to have around
Honda all good pictures, especially like the last photo
Shiftless
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bob:
I WISH that Prentiss 19 was mine but it’s Smitty’s
Thanks for the compliments on the holiday display with Santa at his bench, but that wasn’t Smitty’s
Rusty:
Thanks for posting that shot. All of the Meadville vises I found online had spherical nose pieces. I guess I didn’t look hard enough. Is there a possibility that the one you posted wasn’t original?
Productbob
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did a bit of traveling yesterday to an old machine shop. Came back with 3 Parkers and a Athol. two 974's (with wrenches), one 973 1/2 A, and an encrusted 623 1/2. Had to get the Athol because I needed the shoulder bolt and swivel lock down gear to finish another project. Athol was in the welding area and the buildup on the vise was pretty impressive lol Not vise related but also got a Nicholson Arbor Press #1 and an old Stimpson 405 riveter for those of you who also find those interesting. It was an enjoyable day
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Productbob
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Shift I reversed you and Smitty when I wrote; trying to comment on more than one excellent post at a time is apparently to much for me
Jonshonda
Thanks for the pics, I can honestly say I’ve never seen a Prentiss 5 & 22 sitting next to each other on the same shelf.
Bob
Thanks, I’m always on the lookout for 19’s
Congrats on your multi vise day, those are the sweetest. Those spatter bb’s should buff right out on the athol.
Thanks for the pics, I can honestly say I’ve never seen a Prentiss 5 & 22 sitting next to each other on the same shelf.
Bob
Thanks, I’m always on the lookout for 19’s
Congrats on your multi vise day, those are the sweetest. Those spatter bb’s should buff right out on the athol.
jg4660
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its possible the screw is original.
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Well i got it apart and was able to fix the threads by lubing and kind of using the screw to clean up the threads in the brass anchor that wedges into the static half. Seems to work good now. After closer inspection i believe both pieces are from the same vise after all, the texture of the steel and weight are the same. Also that blue paint was poorly applied and is also on the static piece. Under the blue paint looks the same. Looks like originally it mat have been black. I'm gonna clean it up and repaint it that color. I'll keep it and use it and rebuild my old Wilton thats in need of some TLC. Thanks for the info guys!
JG
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AngryBeaver
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disreagard anything anyone has said about it not matching or being original. Meadville combo vise always had a recessed pipe jaw on the static and flat on the dynamic.
as far as getting it apart, its likely rusted and will need some soaking in or with penetrant or electrolysis.
JG:
That has all the signs of a Frankenvise. Made up from parts from different vises.
The static part marked Meadville is probably 100+ years old. Yost acquired Meadville Vise Co. in 1910. The front moveable part doesn’t match. Not only the paint but the general form is from a much newer vise. It might be stiff because the thread pitch doesn’t match. Don’t force it. Take it apart if you can and inspect. You have an interesting piece of history and it might be a good donor for another project. Hopefully you didn’t pay big money.
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I have disagree with you here, Maybe you should google a few pics of meadville combo vises and not tell someone they have a mis matched piece of **** because you don't know what it is.
va.grouseman
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Product, I like the barnacle look on the Athol.---Gives it character.---Like it was retrieved from the Edmund Fitzgerald.---He's paid his dues, don't punish him anymore.---No grinder, no grinder!!
I finally found a craftsman 5243 after months and months of searching.
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Shiftless
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I found a nice pic of a Meadville combo vise for reference purposes.
I stand corrected. The only difference is the shape of the nose and the style of the lettering. But I have no idea if and when Meadville went from spherical to cylindrical. Or would it be cylindrical to spherical?
It’s been my experience that older vises mostly had spherical “meatball” nose pieces that later evolved into cylindrical.
This one seems to have holes in the base plate implying that, if original, it was sold with a modern swivel base instead of the bolt through design that many companies used in the old days. But then again, many users drilled their own holes in the base plates of the older through the bench style mounts to make mounting easier and more secure at the expense of swiveling. More unknowns to ponder...
I stand corrected. The only difference is the shape of the nose and the style of the lettering. But I have no idea if and when Meadville went from spherical to cylindrical. Or would it be cylindrical to spherical?
It’s been my experience that older vises mostly had spherical “meatball” nose pieces that later evolved into cylindrical.
This one seems to have holes in the base plate implying that, if original, it was sold with a modern swivel base instead of the bolt through design that many companies used in the old days. But then again, many users drilled their own holes in the base plates of the older through the bench style mounts to make mounting easier and more secure at the expense of swiveling. More unknowns to ponder...
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Thanks! I even messed up and posted the same pic twice. The girls wanted to wave and say hi!
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Private Lugnutz
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Between Meadville Vise (sold to Yost in 1910) and Champion Bolt & Clipper (later Champion DeArment, and later still, Channellock), Meadville, PA was quite the early little epicenter for vises and farm tools.
I just got this vigor vise in which is made in Japan and it appears like it could be closely related to your valstar vise. Mine also has a extra marking on one side that says Tmks does yours happen to have a another mark on the opposite side?
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GETRIDAONE
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Yes, I found your post when I was trying to search for info. Nice yours has the swivel base.
I would call yours posted the "old" style, without the schlegel name cast into it and the webbed / I beam style static jaw (in this case front). Do you have any history on the company?
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3492054&postcount=11324
GETRIDAONE
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va.grouseman
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Pretty good looking Grand Master.---Don't see them to often.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-GRAND...G-CONDITION-/372876320319?hash=item56d1291e3f
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-GRAND...G-CONDITION-/372876320319?hash=item56d1291e3f
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Here’s something you don’t see every day. Craftsman 5241, 5242 and 5243.
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Productbob
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Va. & Smitty the barnacle encrusted Athol has been spared the grinder and been given the honorary name of " Fitz".
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Shiftless
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Smitty:
Nice looking line up. Thanks for posting.
Nice looking line up. Thanks for posting.
Here’s something you don’t see every day. Craftsman 5241, 5242 and 5243.
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Nice looking line up. I wonder if one of those craftsman bases will fit on that rotational head vise.
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Thanks shift. When I found the rare 5241 it didn’t have a swivel base. The seller also had the 5242 so I bought that one as well thinking the base would fit. When the base was too small I started hunting for the 5243. I lucked out and the base is a perfect match. The 5241 is complete.
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