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AngryBeaver · May 31, 2020

Here is a march of 1958 108R I picked up a while back... It came out of the Goodyear Plant in Akron Ohio.

Full size real fire hydrant for size reference

3” balls on the end of the handle.......spray paint cap for size reference

rusty65 · May 31, 2020

Shiftless said:
Rusty:
I believe the strategy was to make the nut softer because it was back then a replaceable part. The screw and handle assembly was to be protected from wearing out.

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I like that idea. The nut was worn to a knife edge and yet the threads on the screw seemed like new.

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Hoorn · May 31, 2020

Shiftless:

Thanks for the kind words. I had to laugh after reading your quip about vise collecting/potato chips "bet you can't eat (only) one". Within one week of finishing the restore on my dads old vise, I was on "ebay/craigslist/offer up" and here is the Prentiss I couldn't resist.
After cleaning it up a bit I noticed "USN" stamped on the static jaw. I knew right then I would restore it and give it to my son in law who is an active SEAL, for his garage. That, and because he is die hard Yankees fan he will love that the vise is from New York. All this means I have to get "another" vise....already is communication with a guy on Offer Up about a Parker 974 lol.

Smitty · May 31, 2020

Hi Hoorn, I’m Smitty. Nice find on that Prentiss, it looks like it’s in great condition. The Navy really liked to stamp their property. These are both Prentiss vises with the navy stamps.

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Hoorn · May 31, 2020

Smitty, awesome stamps. Thank you for sharing. From what I've read, your Navy stamp with the anchor was part of a larger Naval contract, whereas my simple USN was perhaps some random purchase. Love that anchor emblem, I'll be on the lookout for one of those.

Smitty · May 31, 2020

I was driving home last night and this popped up on the board an hour away. I couldn’t just let it sit there. This is a first generation Wilton C0 with 3 1/2” jaws.

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Old Radar · May 31, 2020

AngryBeaver said:
Here is a march of 1958 108R I picked up a while back... It came out of the Goodyear Plant in Akron Ohio.

Full size real fire hydrant for size reference

AB--From the slope of your bucket, it looks like that Reed outweighs your fire hydrant!

SRU1436 · May 31, 2020

Damn that Reed 108 is awesome. I have a 106 and mine is a tank, can’t I,whine what that thing is like in person. Great find.

AngryBeaver · May 31, 2020

SRU1436 said:
Damn that Reed 108 is awesome. I have a 106 and mine is a tank, can’t I,whine what that thing is like in person. Great find.

Sorry about the mess and dim lit pics. this is in the corner of my back garage where all the forging, welding, grinding and heavy work is done (to keep the mess out of the main shop). some day I'll unbolt them all and bring them up to the main shop for a full line up pic in good lighting. I just need a 105R to complete the 100 R series set. Only you can appcreiate these pics because you know the size of a 106R, as most others won't because there is nothing there for scale....

106 vs 108... I too thought the 106R was huge... Thought being the key word.

AngryBeaver · May 31, 2020

Old Radar said:
AB--From the slope of your bucket, it looks like that Reed outweighs your fire hydrant!

indeed it does...

SRU1436 · May 31, 2020

AngryBeaver said:
Sorry about the mess and dim lit pics. this is in the corner of my back garage where all the forging, welding, grinding and heavy work is done (to keep the mess out of the main shop). some day I'll unbolt them all and bring them up to the main shop for a full line up pic in good lighting. I just need a 105R to complete the 100 R series set. Only you can appcreiate these pics because you know the size of a 106R, as most others won't because there is nothing there for scale....

106 vs 108... I too thought the 106R was huge... Thought being the key word.

WOW that thing is a monster, that’s cool you have them all but the 105. Does that mean you have a 109? That vise spreadsheet shows a 109. Thanks for the comparison photos.

Matt

rusty65 · May 31, 2020

SRU1436 said:
WOW that thing is a monster, that’s cool you have them all but the 105. Does that mean you have a 109? That vise spreadsheet shows a 109. Thanks for the comparison photos.

Matt

I’m not sure there is a 109 four foot base?

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AngryBeaver · May 31, 2020

SRU1436 said:
WOW that thing is a monster, that’s cool you have them all but the 105. Does that mean you have a 109? That vise spreadsheet shows a 109. Thanks for the comparison photos.

Matt

There was never a 109R

KMScott · May 31, 2020

Borntrager said:
I was looking at my old vise that I sved from my Grandpa Borntrager from our ranch in Montana. It is a good old vise. I decided to look and see when it was made. I came across this forum. I saw an old post where somebody said Holland vises did not make a 104 1/2 I guess they did. Any other info on it would be nice.

Hi Borntrager, nice Hollands, maybe you can add the max opening and weight when you get time. I assume it has 4-1/2" jaws. Doing this will help others to see your picture and the vise spec:s in the Vise Spreadsheet located in my signature. Welcome aboard.

drmarkhastings · Jun 1, 2020

Can someone help me identify this vise?

I need help identifying this Reed vise. It has no markings. Type Machine vise, weight 122.6 pounds, jaw with 6" , opens 8 ", no swivel. I believe it was manufactured prior to 1912.

lucasd2002 · Jun 1, 2020

Re: Can someone help me identify this vise?

drmarkhastings said:
I need help identifying this Reed vise. It has no markings. Type Machine vise, weight 122.6 pounds, jaw with 6" , opens 8 ", no swivel. I believe it was manufactured prior to 1912.

My guess is Reed 34 based on the information you provided

SRU1436 · Jun 1, 2020

I got this Chas Parker the other day. I’ve been looking for a 4.5 inch or bigger Chas Parker. They don’t pop up that often in my neck of the woods. I have a soft spot for their lines.

drmarkhastings · Jun 1, 2020

How can i find a photo of a reed 34?

lucasd2002 · Jun 1, 2020

drmarkhastings said:
How can i find a photo of a reed 34?

I posted a link to 3 photos of one here:

lucasd2002 said:
My guess is Reed 34 based on the information you provided

Also, this catalog (supposed to be from 1917) shows one:

drmarkhastings · Jun 1, 2020

Re: Can someone help me identify this vise?

Does anyone know how to find a photo of a Reed 34? I'd like to photo compare to my vise.

va.grouseman · Jun 1, 2020

There's a #34 on page 161, post 3216.---But Glen 63 says it weighs 178lbs.

Here's a #31 and a #32 on eBay which are smaller than yours but are on the same order as yours---I'm thinking that yours is supposed to have a notched base and is what is referred to as a through the bench swivel base.---The #32 is missing the notched base but you can see the protruding nob on the bottom of the static base that will match any notch on the swivel base..---Does yours have a nob on the bottom?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/REED-Mfg-C...316370?hash=item1ce7a33212:g:aDgAAOSwkXBdkifF

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Re...206153?hash=item23b945ab49:g:uv0AAOSwZd1VZh9A

16again · Jun 1, 2020

Does anyone have an affordable 4” or 5” American made vise for sale? Perhaps a Wilton bullet that someone would like to make a deal on for a forum member?? [emoji1317]

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ncgun99 · Jun 1, 2020

Just completed the latest find. Wilton 1760. It was in really good shape. Dated 6 - 89. New stainless steel hardware and new paint. Wire brush and some polishing. Also posted in Wilton Date Stamp forum.

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chrisnazzy · Jun 2, 2020

rusty65 said:
I’m not sure there is a 109 four foot base?

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They did make a Reed 109 w/ the 4 bolt base but as AngrBeaver said, they didn't continue to make any 9" models once they transitioned to the R series and later N/S series.

I believe this one is part of an awesome collection of large vises owned by a GJ member in Kansas.

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bsaint · Jun 2, 2020

Built a maintenance cart out of a cab they were throwing away. Replaced the broken casters with pneumatic and mounted my 973 Parker.

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mikeswrenches · Jun 2, 2020

16again said:
Does anyone have an affordable 4” or 5” American made vise for sale? Perhaps a Wilton bullet that someone would like to make a deal on for a forum member?? [emoji1317]

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I’ve got a 974 Parker like new, and an unmarked Prentiss no. 21 with 5 1/4 in. Jaws and a swivel base. 974 doesn’t have the swivel base. PM me if you’re interested and I’ll dig them out and send some pictures.

16again · Jun 3, 2020

mikeswrenches said:
I’ve got a 974 Parker like new, and an unmarked Prentiss no. 21 with 5 1/4 in. Jaws and a swivel base. 974 doesn’t have the swivel base. PM me if you’re interested and I’ll dig them out and send some pictures.

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Dru · Jun 4, 2020

Finished my record steel, had to make my own jaws as i could not find replacement ones

Filly · Jun 4, 2020

Hey all, haven’t posted on here in a while, but some of you on FB might have seen some of my recent posts.

Past couple months I’ve scored a handful of nice ones, and I’ve also refinished a few as well.

New arrivals:
- Prentiss Bull Dog No. 56 (someone put some new jaws on it)
- Wards master Anvil
- Columbian 505
- Columbian 505M2
- Rock Island 154A (SJ-Coachmakers, KScott added to the spreadsheet)

Freshly Finished:
- Columbian 5C woodworking vise (Torched BLO and Maple Jaws)
- Athol 614 1/2 (Faux Patina came out nicely)
- Craftsman 4 1/2 (Japan one I cleaned up as a gift to a good friend)

Old Radar · Jun 4, 2020

Nice paint job on the Craftsman!! I've got one on the to-do list and I'm stealing your design! :bounce:

Filly · Jun 4, 2020

Old Radar said:
Nice paint job on the Craftsman!! I've got one on the to-do list and I'm stealing your design!

Thanks, do steal! Rustoleam Hammered Red & Hammered Grey.

Filly · Jun 4, 2020

OH and how could I forget this one... been a long spring!!

Also refinished this 4” Torco By Wilton.

Bill Vise · Jun 4, 2020

I found a Hollands 14 vise in nice shape. Have not been able to find much information about the brand online.

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va.grouseman · Jun 4, 2020

Filly, how long did you polish on that Torco?---I like that Craftsman paint job too.---Nicely done.

mikeswrenches · Jun 4, 2020

Bill, nice find on the Hollands! Looks to be in excellent condition. Nice that it has most of what looks to be the original paint.

You're right, there’s minimal information available. You can find a couple items at the link below.

https://archive.org/details/internationaltoolcataloglibrary?and[]=Hollands+&sin=

rusty65 · Jun 4, 2020

Bill Vise said:
I found a Hollands 14 vise in nice shape. Have not been able to find much information about the brand online.

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Small world you got that from brimfield right? I went out there to look at a Parker once and it was brazed so I avoid that area. Looks like you found a dandy nice and clean.

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twagler · Jun 5, 2020

Anyone recognize what model and size this vise is? The listing states; "large bench vise approx. 8" jaws".

From looking at pictures on-line, it sure looks like a Craftsman, but I haven't seen any pictures that show a built-in (retained) wrench like this one has to lock the swivel base. Also can't find any evidence that Craftsman ever made an 8" vise. Although of course a lot of sellers confuse vise opening length versus vise jaw width, so I'm guessing this is just a run-of-the-mill small Craftsman.

Thanks, Tom

akasrick · Jun 5, 2020

Misidentified vise
No matter what light I look at this at 3x magnification the stamp is 763.
Guess I need a loupe or someone with newer eyes to check my work.

Per the catalogs
Stanley #765
2-1/2" Jaws
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Doesn't match any thing I read.
2-1/2" removable Jaws
Opens safely 1-3/4"
Weight 3.93 lbs.

Ahh the error! Mine

Stanley #763
2" Jaws
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Doesn't match any thing I read.
2" removable Jaws
Opens safely 1-3/4"
Weight 3.93 lbs.

A different style 765 is listed on the spreadsheet.

Pay no attention to the broken screw shown, that's another lesson learned,
only tap once with impact tool.

Decided to alleviate any further aggravations and replace the screw.
Parts show they were available, donor vise had longer screws with a thicker head.
After some not so fancy file work now have four holding screws.

Moved cuts
The 1941 catalog shows a 763 with the hardened, machined, fitted.
(welded) jaws. With the Stanley name cast on the side.

The 1949 catalog shows a new style of 763. With removable, diamond checked steel jaws.
Possibly they used up stock within those years to make way for the change?

All the rest of the gory details are shown in this link
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8451908&postcount=78943

akasrick

tool_scrounge · Jun 5, 2020

Columbian made craftsman machinist vise, pre 1970, probably 5" wide jaws at best. Rather poor condition

va.grouseman · Jun 5, 2020

twagler said:
Anyone recognize what model and size this vise is? The listing states; "large bench vise approx. 8" jaws".

From looking at pictures on-line, it sure looks like a Craftsman, but I haven't seen any pictures that show a built-in (retained) wrench like this one has to lock the swivel base. Also can't find any evidence that Craftsman ever made an 8" vise. Although of course a lot of sellers confuse vise opening length versus vise jaw width, so I'm guessing this is just a run-of-the-mill small Craftsman.

Thanks, Tom

Yep, Craftsman made an 8''er but it was made in Japan.---Were only about 120lbs. which is very light for a vise with 8'' jaws.---But that particular one you're looking at just looks like a typical, (what I call a Chevron Craftsman), probably 4 or 5''er.

EDIT----That vise doesn't look to have been beaten up from the pic, but looks like years of exposer and neglect.---With a little TLC I think it would clean up rather nicely.---If you get it, take before and after's.

Added a pic of what that one might look like cleaned up a bit.---Notice the Chevrons on the side and the Crown Emblem.---I think this is what you are looking at.

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