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Private Lugnutz

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That is a Cornercopia of Craftsman right there, JoCo! Can't wait to see the rest. Love the plank floor and the white plank walls and the dark window frame. Put a potbellied stove out there and a little gift shop and you could start advertising on the Anteek tour circuit! :) Seriously, very nice.
 
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Thanks Lugz. I'd absolutely love to have a potbellied stove in there but it's a turn of the century barn made of heart pine so it's basically one huge piece of lighter knot. My biggest fear is fire so propane it is (even that makes me nervous). The wide planks used to be on a wall that sectioned off a tack room. The area you see in that pic used to be a couple of mule stalls. Interesting place and always gives me something to do.
 

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Congrats AB! that's all of the fixed base series, right?
I believe so. Just need the 5186 for the swivel set.

Deja Vu Blue! Unless I'm mistaken, didn't you very recently post a photo of 4 of them, AB? Saying you needed the 5th, and someone (wrenchguy?) piped up almost immediately with the missing 5th one?

Yup. And I found one on fb.
 

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Here are a few photos from today’s swap!



I don’t know if anyone has commented on the craftsman C series ratchet you picked up but that isn’t easy to come by. Our member gear wolf on this thread has made a great video about those snap on made ratchets. You have some great luck! I need to start going to your swap meets [emoji15]


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Trying to get a bit more organized in the shop, I came across these old fellows:

The dikes still have good jaws even, and the screwdriver is in good nick.
 

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Thanks gents. I figured out where to park the grinders that doesn't involve me having to do any extra work. The 1/3hp needs a cosmetic overhaul to get rid of the John Deere green center band. Instead of trying to make it look like new, I plan to attempt to recreate the look of the patina of it's big brother.



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So much good stuff going on in this photo! I love that you have an old barn to hold your incredibly cool craftsman collection in! I like your patina idea for the grinder!


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I picked these tools up as a package a couple of years ago. Long C drill press, table saw, jointer, and lathe on a bench with many other accessories like bits, blades, and a Columbian vise for $200. It is interesting and a sign of the times (depression era) that the tools often share a motor. This set was set up to utilize a common motor or two to run the tool of choice.

The lathe is missing a tool rest if anyone has anything available or ideas for replacement.
 

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I picked these tools up as a package a couple of years ago. Long C drill press, table saw, jointer, and lathe on a bench with many other accessories like bits, blades, and a Columbian vise for $200. It is interesting and a sign of the times (depression era) that the tools often share a motor. This set was set up to utilize a common motor or two to run the tool of choice.

The lathe is missing a tool rest if anyone has anything available or ideas for replacement.

Great first post - you hit a homerun! I'm especially fond of your Atlas-made drill press. Yours appears to be in fantastic condition!

As for parts for your lathe - I believe that's also an Atlas-made tool, and they are still relatively common. You should have no problems finding another lathe for parts. Look for Dunlap lathes as well as Craftsman.

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Great first post - you hit a homerun! I'm especially fond of your Atlas-made drill press. Yours appears to be in fantastic condition!

As for parts for your lathe - I believe that's also and Atlas-made tool, and they are still relatively common. You should have no problems finding another lathe for parts. Look for Dunlap lathes as well as Craftsman.

Brian

The drill press is my favorite and most used tool from the set. I will keep an eye out for Atlas lathe parts. Thanks.
 

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+1 on the great first post. That's coming in with a bang.

I would respectfully disagree with Brian about your lathe. I'd put that mid-1930s which was about the time when Sears was ditching Walker Turner for Atlas. I think both your lathe and your jointer are Walker Turner-made. I can't really see the logo badge very well on the lathe. If it's made of brass, you've got a WT-made lathe. If either machine has a data plate on it, a 101 prefix indicates Atlas, 102 indicates WT.

Nice Atlas-made DP. I've got a few of them as well and really like them.

EDIT: The deeper I dig, the less I'm convinced the lathe is WT. I'm thinking Atlas rings the bell. Sorry, Brian! I learned something tonight!

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+1 on the great first post. That's coming in with a bang.

I would respectfully disagree with Brian about your lathe. I'd put that mid-1930s which was about the time when Sears was ditching Walker Turner for Atlas. I think both your lathe and your jointer are Walker Turner-made. I can't really see the logo badge very well on the lathe. If it's made of brass, you've got a WT-made lathe. If either machine has a data plate on it, a 101 prefix indicates Atlas, 102 indicates WT.

Nice Atlas-made DP. I've got a few of them as well and really like them.

EDIT: The deeper I dig, the less I'm convinced the lathe is WT. I'm thinking Atlas rings the bell. Sorry, Brian! I learned something tonight!

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I spoke out of ignorance, not knowledge, and I was ready to concede the point!

I think we need better pix to be certain. I have a Dunlap lathe with which to compare if/when the OP gets around to taking detailed photos.

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The closest I can find to it on Vintage Machinery is a 101.06241 but as you say, we need more pics. That logo on the OPs initially looked like an early brass one to me but as I look at it more, I'm not so sure.
 

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Picked up this screwdriver at the flea market this morning. The amber handle and blue ferrule combination caught my Craftsman eye. Marked with the short geometric "C" logo often seen on late 40's tools and a Circle-I code on the handle. The interchangeable tips, stored inside the handle (that knurled end cap is threaded...), are marked Stanley and they owned the patent number (2,287,457) marked on the shank, which dates to 1942. Tips included are a slot type and a #3 Phillips. I have not looked this up in a catalog yet, but I am assuming it probably also came with at least a #2 Phillips and maybe another size or two slot types.

I am a big fan of tools with replaceable parts, but I am not sure I am a big fan of this particular design principle for a screwdriver. The tips have a tapered bit essentially pushed with force into the shank opening, which has been crimped. To change bits you have to pull (I actually had to use a pry) with an equal amount of force to remove the bit. I am picturing that action, as well as the torque when in use, opening up those pinches in time, making it too loose to hold the tapered bit. I could be wrong.

Are these a FOAK for this thread? I just searched the site and this thread on "Stowell" (the patent holder), with no luck. Of course, these may have come up before without a reference to the patent holder, but that kind of search exceeds my interest in determining that or not.

Anybody seen one before? Is my mid- to late-40's guesstimate correct? What do I have here, fellers? Common? Rare? School me.
 

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Lugz, I vote rare, Certainly I've never seen one!

The flat tabs would keep it form spinning in the shank, and the down force to keep the tip in the screw should provide additional force for seat it, so should hold OK. The real test would be going from tightening to loosening? That potentially could crack the force fit of the taper? But it should also re-seat?
 

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From Blackburntools,

1949 catalog (note it shows =CRAFTSMAN= logo, artist’s rendering?)

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and 1954 catalog, showing the later interchangeable bit model, which is also not the best as far as bit drivers go.

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Anybody seen one before? Is my mid- to late-40's guesstimate correct? What do I have here, fellers? Common? Rare? School me.

These were available at least through 1952 (I haven't looked further). I would call them 'uncommon', not rare. I have one (in atrocious condition) and frequently come across them on eBay (because I look for vintage Craftsman screwdrivers). Most look terrible and are missing pieces.

You're guess on the missing bit is spot on. Here's from the 1952 catalog.

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Here's from the 1942 catalog. Please note that using the catalogs to determine the placement and style of logo is notoriously unreliable. I have nothing to help you determine the exact year of your screwdriver.

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