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Installation of my new Devair VAT-5063 DV447 air compressor *Lots of photos*

NewLogik

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I've been looking to replace my good MAXair prenium single stage compressor for a while now. It wasn't just enough air for the kind of work I do in my home shop/garage and around it...
It was still doing great after 7 years of abuse, often run way over his max duty cycle and only had 1 head gasket which went out, but I should have checked the head bolts to prevent that anyways.

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Ok, enough said about my old compressor, so I got a new Devair compressor VAT-5063 with the DV447 pump. Just a little upgrade... I found this on kijiji and wasn't able to pass on it even if it's a bit overkill for my intended use, but as many other tools or units I get, I prefer having something which will last forever and which I won't need to worry about breaking it.

When I got this new compressor, like many other big compressors, it came with a nice Baldor motor, but unfortunately running on 3 phase, 575V which is unfortunately not good for residential use.

I had to remove the pump and motor to get that big boy loaded in my friend truck as we had nothing else than a cherry picker to get it loaded at the previous owner garage.

First thing, unloaded the new compressor. Many people don't realise how big it is. The pump is so huge and heavy at a little over 400 pounds and 24"HX30"LX24"W .

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Since it does require more space than my previous compressor, had to change plan and put it up there and had to extend the current platform to make it fit. Couldn't fit the tank between the wall and the lift post:

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The pump compared to the 120 gallons tank :

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Once the pump was mounted on top :

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Had to make some new gaskets ( After coolers removal, they had to be replaced) :

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I first needed a new 10hp single phase motor :

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This new 10 HP 1740 rpm single phase 230V motor have a built-in overload which I wired, but still added another overload withing the contactor as I wanted to make sure that it get protected if anythings happen :

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Got my new contactor and overload to replace the OEM SquareD which was only for 3 phase 600V motor.

My friend JimmyJoeBob got me these two boxes... :

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And now was ready for wiring :

Installed a new 60 Amps circuit breaker and run new wiring to the compressor motor :

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Contactor, overload and motor wiring :

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Pressure switch wiring to 120V relay for the contactor and also wiring to the On/Off switch :

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Final motor wiring :

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Now that looks like not much work, but I can tell you it was more than what I initially thought it will be. I'm really satisfied on how it turned out and now the compressor is up and running and wow, what a difference... It fill up the tank so fast ! That's a "REAL" upgrade from my previous "5 hp" compressor.

Here's some shots from the final installation with the belt guard and everything in place. The only missing thing that will be worked on later is something to make sure garage heater don't turn on at the same time that the compressor is running to prevent way too high amps peak.

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Hope you enjoy the pics and that it wasn't too much.

Let me know if you have any questions or comments regarding my installation.

Specifications
Pump 447 (4 cylinder / two stage)
Power 10 hp
Tank Capacity 120 gal
Tank Orientation Horizontal
Displacement 43.3
Maximum Operating Temperature at 175 psig 36.5 cfm
Maximum Operating Temperature at 150 psig 36.8 cfm
Maximum Operating Temperature at 100psig 37.3 cfm
Pump Speed 590 rpm

Thanks to JimmyJoeBob for his help as usual, he helped at different parts of the installation and getting me the magnetic starter. (Just between me and him : I'm now also owning a DV447 :p )

Thanks to StevenMorgan for some references while I was making decisions on how I was going to make that work. You can take a look at his tread right here : http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309088

Thanks to every garagejournal for all your posts, it require so much time to put together all these photos together and some infos around, wow !

All that said, I finally should have enough air to fill up all 4 tires on my car :lol:

If you think you still miss some pictures, please photo the link to my gallery here :

http://newlogik.com/photos/index.php?/category/1
 
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That's awesome, brother! What a fantastic upgrade!

Congrats!
 

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I know where to go this year when I need somebody to blow up the pool toys!
 
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Any issues running 10hp on single phase?

No it does run smooth with the 10hp single phase motor. You still need to consider that running on 1ph it means more amps and perhaps you need to have a panel that can handle it. You also need to verify with your local regulations from your provider as I know some place in the US doesn't allow 10HP motor for residential.

Other than that, it works fine.
 

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Great looking setup you've got there; I hope that gives you a lifetime of trouble free service!

So I have to ask...is that a 4G motor on the engine stand in your avatar? Looks to be but the valve cover is a little different.
 
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Great looking setup you've got there; I hope that gives you a lifetime of trouble free service!

So I have to ask...is that a 4G motor on the engine stand in your avatar? Looks to be but the valve cover is a little different.

I hope that it will give me that lifetime trouble free service, well I'm sure it will ;)

On my Avatar, it's actually not a 4G motor, but a 4XE1-WT from an Isuzu Impulse RS 1.6T AWD 1991.
 

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I'm sure it will as well. It certainly should; I imagine you spent a pretty penny on it ;)

And ahh ok there's a motor Im not familiar with. It just really resembled the 4g63 granted as I mentioned different looking vc but overall between the head and the snail chilling there. Although now upon closer inspection looks I see the compressor housing is facing up vs down which Im familiar with...nonetheless looks nice as does your amazing compressor setup!
 
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Wow OP . . . that is an impressive setup with 10 HP Devair compressor !! :thumbup:

Can't imagine the powerful "never-ending" air you have now with 36 CFM when you were used to getting by with 18 CFM !!

What kind of airline system do you have, and how have you dealt with any moisture issues, if any ??
 
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Wow OP . . . that is an impressive setup with 10 HP Devair compressor !! :thumbup:

Can't imagine the powerful "never-ending" air you have now with 36 CFM when you were used to getting by with 18 CFM !!

What kind of airline system do you have, and how have you dealt with any moisture issues, if any ??

I've not yet settle down on the airlines run, however I know that I'll be using 3/4" black pipe, but still haven't decided exactly where I'll have drops and how it will be designed. I do have some plans, but not yet decided on so for now, I got a air filter right beside the outlet and then running my hose from there... That part don't look professional at all, but even if I was looking for the "good deal" for sometime, I wasn't expecting to buy that compressor like right now... so I did the installation, but wasn't ready to complete with all the air lines. I'll keep you updated once I'm doing the air lines.
 

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Wow. What a monster. Makes my 247 look like a portable nailer pump.

Real deal that. Surprised you could even carry the bolts holding it together.
 
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If you want the compressor to not run while heat is being called, or vice versa, easiest way is another heavy duty contactor. Whichever device has "priority" blocks or inhibits the coil of the relay/contactor that feeds the other device. In other words, when your air compressor's contactor closes, use an auxiliary normally closed contact, that will be open in that state. Wire the contactor for the heat so the coil is in series with the aux contact, and thus heat contactor cannot close while air compressor contactor is in use.
 
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If you want the compressor to not run while heat is being called, or vice versa, easiest way is another heavy duty contactor. Whichever device has "priority" blocks or inhibits the coil of the relay/contactor that feeds the other device. In other words, when your air compressor's contactor closes, use an auxiliary normally closed contact, that will be open in that state. Wire the contactor for the heat so the coil is in series with the aux contact, and thus heat contactor cannot close while air compressor contactor is in use.


Thank you for the advice, already looking into this with my friend which have a solution for this. Should do this soon.
 
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I'm guessing he didn't call his utility company. We don't allow anything over 7.5hp single phase.


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Did you actually took time to read what my answer was ? I did asked about my 10 HP prior to this and as I previously said, you need to verify with local utility/provider before anythings else...

No it does run smooth with the 10hp single phase motor. You still need to consider that running on 1ph it means more amps and perhaps you need to have a panel that can handle it. You also need to verify with your local regulations from your provider as I know some place in the US doesn't allow 10HP motor for residential.

Other than that, it works fine.
 

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Did you actually took time to read what my answer was ? I did asked about my 10 HP prior to this and as I previously said, you need to verify with local utility/provider before anythings else...


I had read the whole thread (and think your compressor is awesome). I must've missed that. Sorry. Didn't mean to impune. Was just saying that most people would just hook it up and if it worked great. Meanwhile they're dimming the lights for the whole neighborhood every time it kicks on. Motors that size have to be evaluated on both the low voltage and high voltage sides of the transformer to make sure you aren't creating PQ issues for anyone. Here, as I said, we have a hard rule nothing over 7.5 hp single phase.


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I had read the whole thread (and think your compressor is awesome). I must've missed that. Sorry. Didn't mean to impune. Was just saying that most people would just hook it up and if it worked great. Meanwhile they're dimming the lights for the whole neighborhood every time it kicks on. Motors that size have to be evaluated on both the low voltage and high voltage sides of the transformer to make sure you aren't creating PQ issues for anyone. Here, as I said, we have a hard rule nothing over 7.5 hp single phase.


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No worries, just wanted to say that I knew about that and for my situation, I'm the only one on the transformer as I live in the country and since of the distance between houses, they don't always have more than 1 house hooked up to the transfo.
 
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