Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT Woody's Works Garage

Denwood · Apr 11, 2016

Chilly, thanks

Ron, all of the devices I've been writing about use either Zigbee (2.4Ghz) or Zwave (908 MHz) radios, so require no wifi network at all. The SmartThings hub I'm using has both Zigbee and Zwave radio chips on board, so can manage both networks. The hub itself needs to be plugged into your router/switch. Both of these protocols have the ability to form their own "mesh" networks, so you can cover larger distances as wired-in devices (like wall switches, plugs, relays, thermostats etc) usually work as repeaters in the network, running encrypted traffic around the mesh.

This makes for excellent reliability, and coverage without all the issues of adding access points for WIFI. The Zigbee and Zwave protocols are designed for very low power use (about 1/4 of what WIFI needs), so motion sensors powered with coin-type batteries like the SmartThings sensors will go 1-2 yrs without touching them. A new lower power standard for WIFI, 802.11ah or "Wi-Fi HaLow", is looking to change this, so we will see devices using this tech in the next year or two.

This relay (which automates the roll up door) is wired in, and being closest to the house, likely is the "hop" that the deadbolt uses to communicate with the house network, about 60ft away. To conserve battery life, the deadbolt is only communicating when it needs to.

Kevros · Apr 11, 2016

Denwood said:
SmartThings is one of the newer players in the market, recently purchased by Samsung. They have become popular due to the fairly simple interface and the fact that their hub is inexpensive ($100) with both ZigBee and Zwave radios onboard. Control4 (ZigBee), Vera (Zwave) and HomeSeer(Zwave) are other more popular players in this market.. All of them use a hub, but of these options, only Smarthings and Wink have multiple radios. Vera is about to start shipping their first multiple radio product. Cree, GE, and Philips have all introduced LED bulbs under $20 with ZigBee chips onboard, so you screw them in, join to your hub...and start automating them quite easily.

Dennis, Thanks for the layman' description of the home automation systems you're using. Have you considered Sinope Technology controllers for baseboards and lighting?
Kev

HCNDM · Apr 12, 2016

Denwood said:
Niels, as long as you're ok with some copy/paste coding, the Vera will be great

Easily one of the best updates to date in terms of wife/kid approval has been these Kwikset 910 Zwave motorized dead bolts. You can program up to 30 codes on each (although only two if you don't use an automation hub), and if you have existing "Smart Key" locks (we have Weiser locks which support SmartKey) then you can key everything the same.

These locks have a tapered dead bolt which helps **** the door in snug to weather strip when closed. I found that it's very important to proper operation to make sure the dead bolt can be closed easily by hand. Everything needs to be lined up correctly with respect to your jam.

They take 4 AA batteries..and given the shop unit in particular will see cold temps, I opted for these lithium versions instead of the rechargeables we typically use:

After trying a few options to manage the locks using the SmartThings hub (you do everything from your smartphone), I ended up purchasing this Lock Code manager app. This app allows all sorts of options, like "burn after use" and scheduled codes (code only works at certain times). It even retracts the dead bolt if someone has opened the door and extended the dead bolt to prevent damage to your frame. If you have contact sensors on your doors, the app can also detect once the door is closed, and lock it for you. This scared the jeeps out of a Mom dropping her daughter off for a play date (the lock motor is loud)..but it can keep things more secure if your area dictates this. It's also a nice hand's free option.

The wife and kids love not using keys, although they can be used for backup. Doors left open are pretty much a thing of the past, as our "Goodbye" routine automatically locks everything down. You can also set up quite a few notifications so for example particular unlock codes can trigger notifications to your phone. A successful code entry can also disarm the security system if you program the app that way. These locks don't re-transmit other Zwave device signals, so if you're shop is detached, you may require a wired in Zwave device to make sure your hub can communicate with the lock. Fortunately, the garage door opener "hack" uses an LFM-20 relay, which is wired in and therefore serves as a Zwave repeater close to the lock.

Aside from the automation perks using a hub like SmartThings, you can of course open the locks remotely. This is handy if you're like me and have folks stopping by to borrow or return tools every now and then.

The batteries fit into a sled, which is slid into the top of this housing. If you're replacing existing dead bolts, installation is pretty straightforward..about 20-30 minutes.

Hi Dennis,

Those locks are really cool! Gonna see what the budget does after the renovation. If there's any left I want locks [emoji4]

I should manage with the copy n pasting code. I'm a terrible programmer but as software Application manager i spend a lot of time Reading sql, xml, html, vba, php, and python. Being a terrible programmer resorting to copy paste gets me out of trouble often.

Interesting that Vera is launching a dual radio. Considering the living room will only be done mid June it would be nice if it were out by then.

Niels

JohnnieMo · Apr 12, 2016

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I have those exact locks but they are sold by Weiser. Mine don't have the wireless control though.

To be honest I don't like them. As you indicated they eat batteries like candy. I've also had several fail on me.

With the wireless option I can see an upside. Without I consider them a waste.

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rvieceli · Apr 12, 2016

Thanks for the clarification

Denwood · Apr 12, 2016

Niels, given your comfort with VBA etc, you'll find Vera's Luaa code easy. The PLEG plugin and the Combination Switch plugins have been all I've needed at the shop to automate with the Ecobee 3 sensors, security system, various Zwave devices, and LFM20 relays to control our HRVs. Tying in to the existing security system was awesome as I can automate off Arm/Disarm events and turn off AC with windows open etc.

Once Vera's dual radio product has been shipping and debugged for six months, I'll likely move over to that from SmartThings. If ST figures out 100% local processing, I'll stay with them.

Johnnie, the Kwikset 910s had 4/5 stars at Amazon, and it was apparent that some are getting close to a yr from the batteries. They were on sale, which made it easier

I originally installed our goto low discharge NIMh batteries, but they reported 75% battery level in the lock, fully charged..and stayed at that level for about 10 days before I replaced them with lithiums. After two weeks in the busiest door, the lithiums are still reporting 100%..which means they are between 90-99%. How you install these and what options you enable will affect battery life. For example, enabling the auto lock when closed option (instead of doing it by hand) would likely halve battery life. I'm auto-locking a few doors, but from Smarthings, as it "knows" the door is closed via the contact sensors.

I could also see jam/bolt misalignment eating battery life if the lock attempts and fails to engage the bolt. So far so good..and I'll report back on battery life once any of the locks drops below 100%

HCNDM · Apr 12, 2016

Denwood said:
Niels, given your comfort with VBA etc, you'll find Vera's Luaa code easy. The PLEG plugin and the Combination Switch plugins have been all I've needed at the shop to automate with the Ecobee 3 sensors, security system, various Zwave devices, and LFM20 relays to control our HRVs. Tying in to the existing security system was awesome as I can automate off Arm/Disarm events and turn off AC with windows open etc.

Once Vera's dual radio product has been shipping and debugged for six months, I'll likely move over to that from SmartThings. If ST figures out 100% local processing, I'll stay with them.

Johnnie, the Kwikset 910s had 4/5 stars at Amazon, and it was apparent that some are getting close to a yr from the batteries. They were on sale, which made it easier I originally installed our goto low discharge NIMh batteries, but they reported 75% battery level in the lock, fully charged..and stayed at that level for about 10 days before I replaced them with lithiums. After two weeks in the busiest door, the lithiums are still reporting 100%..which means they are between 90-99%. How you install these and what options you enable will affect battery life. For example, enabling the auto lock when closed option (instead of doing it by hand) would likely halve battery life. I'm auto-locking a few doors, but from Smarthings, as it "knows" the door is closed via the contact sensors.

I could also see jam/bolt misalignment eating battery life if the lock attempts and fails to engage the bolt. So far so good..and I'll report back on battery life once any of the locks drops below 100%

Oh Lua [emoji39] that's going to bring back a lot of world of Warcraft memories [emoji4] All add ons and ui customizations in wow are Lua.

Wasted too much of my life playing that game but it was fun.

I now have a tool addiction instead.

Denwood · Apr 12, 2016

Niels, be prepared..automation is a bit of a rabbit hole!

It does offer quite a few solutions to common problems. Today I set up a scene at the office as the 2 business tenants seem to be leaving, and not arming their security zone all of the time. It only took a few minutes to set up a "combination switch" and scene on the Vera box that checks to see if the Ecobee 3 occupancy sensors are sensing occupancy (they take at least 30 minutes to stop reporting presence) and arm the system automatically if the tenants are gone. Works quite nicely.

I also found out this evening that if you "hack" your garage door opener like this:

Then the possibility of killing your remote battery exists...oops. The LFM20 relay light is green when "OFF" (and it should be off at all times, expect for a moment during door operation) and I inadvertently left it "ON" when installing the dead bolt and running the "Repair Zwave Network" command on the hub. This command recreates the mesh network to route new Zwave devices optimally.

I created a simple rule that turns that relay off if it's on for anything more than a minute (which should never happen), and also used the "Rule Machine" app to notify me if this relay is ever "ON" for more than 10 seconds. It is programmed as a momentary switch, normally OFF. Once the bugs are worked out with my setup, it should be pretty much hands off

HCNDM · Apr 14, 2016

Hi Dennis

Saw this and had to share

http://forum.thethingsnetwork.org/t/sodaq-annouces-the-loraone/1067

Seams they just rounded off a successful Kickstarter campaign and launched a beta prototype.

Kr

Niels

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Denwood · Apr 14, 2016

Looks like they thought of everything. I've been wondering why more devices (like the door locks) don't use light harvesting to charge onboard cells. This board seems to have an answer

In another vote for Vera as a controller, I actually called them today due to a login portal issue. They directed me to a backup..no issues. I was on the phone with a real person at 5pm EST, in about 20 seconds. That's always a very good sign...and given the controller is all of $140, pretty surprising in terms of support.

HCNDM · Apr 15, 2016

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I like the fact it uses long range radio as well.

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Denwood · Apr 18, 2016

Here's the floor clean process from last night, post winter. Our back lane access to the shop is not paved, and winters here see very cold temps, snow, salt and sand. This is about as bad is a floor could get after a cold winter. Pretty much a mop, squeegee, and wet/dry vac took care of things. The EPDM underlay seems to have survived nicely with no perforations. You can see where the car weight has made tile impressions into the EPDM, but there are no punctures.

JohnnieMo · Apr 22, 2016

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Hey Woody,

I'm looking at getting some slat wall installed. On your suggestion I checked out Windsor plywood... all good. However where do you get the hooks? Windsor can order them but I'm not even sure what I want.

I'd like an assortment of things to hold wrenches and hammers and screwdrivers etc. Just curious where you looked and what you might recommend. I keep trying to Google it and I'm not having much luck.

It would be nice if there was a store which had buckets of them all laid out like candy.

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Denwood · Apr 22, 2016

Johnnie, I was just at Windsor in Thunder Bay picking up some more hooks. They stock a bunch. That said, it's way less expensive to buy them like this: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s_ss_i_1_5?k=slat+wall+hook&sprefix=Slat+ Look for bundled kits of the chromed style. They are all I've been using, other than some chromed 8" shelf brackets.

Slat wall in the shop is awesome. I must have close to 100 hooks in use. Even the hoist pump and flow divider is hanging off the slat wall.

drivesitfar · Apr 22, 2016

Woody: I was going to ask you a few days ago when you posted your cleaning under the race deck and must have forgot. does your race deck just slide forward for cleaning? or did you have to unhook each piece on the sides to move it?

very nice job BTW on the clean up.

also always appreciate your posts on saving energy and bringing your home and shop into the 22nd century. I do worry about putting everything on the grid and maybe giving access to see things or get in my home so hopefully you have that part figured out too.

i'm sort of a conspiracy guy now and then just so you know. when they say it's unhackable I call BULL because what if they torture the guy that designed the security to obtain the codes just for one example. I'm really worried about the phone chips that everybody uses and hope my fears never come to fruition.

sorry to bring it up on Friday so wishing you and yours a great weekend. also now that the snow is maybe gone are we sailing or fishing or do tell what the Denwood's do for fun?

cheers

Denwood · Apr 22, 2016

Drive, I separated the floor into 3 sections. They "unzip" very easily allowing you to drag them around with ease. Pulling the sections outside into the lane-way is not an option, so I had to do the three part shuffle

Sailing, camping and mountain biking are the family gotos for summer, and although it's not warm, all the snow is gone

. The girls just spent 2 hours in the newly cleaned shop with tunes pumping and the now permanent disco lights doing their thing.

In terms of the online world, yes there are risks. If man made it, it can break, be hacked, burn up etc. I tend to layer things in terms of redundancy, both in terms of snapshot backups, and redundant functionality. I also maintain our own routers using packet level intrusion detection..blah, blah. Leaving everything offline is safer in some respects..however the far more likely scenario is theft because doors are left open, a structure left unattended, blatant power waste, fire or flood etc. In many ways being plugged into the buildings via smartphone increases peace of mind as one always has oversight when required. If my tenants forget to arm their zones, the system does it for them. That system is in turn third party monitored 24/7, battery backed up, with cellular redundancy and so on.

I've actually told my family to go ahead and leave all the lights on..the system manages turning everything off, dimming during the day etc. Power use at both home and office are at the lowest levels, ever

.

Meanwhile the neighbor's AC clacked away all night, with outside temps at freezing. I went over to let them know something was amiss. Turns out the basement tenant has the heat cranked, and the upstairs tenant is running AC to keep cool. Utterly insane.

drivesitfar · Apr 22, 2016

Woody: OUTSTANDING POST and i'll try to be as good as you some day.

we're having an amazing sunset tonight as the clouds are clearing the way so we can see it.

I tell you if you don't like what's around you I guess you just aren't trying or looking. even though your temps get WAAAAAAAY below freezing I really never have seen a post with you being upset. KUDOS TO YOU SIR and carry on.

hope you have a great weekend.

Denwood · Apr 22, 2016

Drive, thanks for the kind words

At dinner with the girls tonight I commented on what an amazing quality of life we enjoy. Our very worst days are privileged in many respects. Call it the global perspective

I read a great book called "The Go-Giver" last week. It was a nice reminder of some values I'd call essential to a happy life.

Denwood · Apr 23, 2016

I was bleeding the hydraulic brakes on my trusty Trek "tank" last week (with a family, always lots of bikes to fix!) and had the typical experience of wrestling with the bike as it fell over on me. I should have picked up a stand 25 yrs ago. Call this one a birthday present. The Park PCS-10 is on clearance right now at chainreactioncycles.com for $186 CAD. The Trek is pretty much 30lbs and the stand has no issues with it at all. Build quality is excellent with folding storage a bonus. The rotating speed clamp holds securely, and rotation locking actually works, even with a very offset load.

drivesitfar · Apr 23, 2016

Woody: I had my wife look up to see if the Go Giver was in an audio book at the library and when she got too it I was half asleep in my recliner so not sure if she said they were all out or if there aren't any. she did say it comes in a few formats so i'll have to check it out. I bet you could have wrote that book if you had some time.

another nice addition to the wall of storage and your arsenal for fixing your STUFF.

i'm heading out to buy some WOOD BLUEPRINT CABINETS and do I NEED them probably not, but I WANT them because they are cool and will look great refinished. i'll start my Organizing 101 thread someday soon, but if you want a glimpse I've put up a few of my metal cabinets on this thread.

not that you have any room for them in your garage, but if you do somewhere the huge drawers of the blueprint and the nice old small drawer filing cabinets hold a lot of tools and STUFF.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5692043#post5692043

Enjoy your Sunday

Denwood · Apr 26, 2016

Drive, not sure if I could be held to the standards of the Go-Giver, however, it's a good goal to aspire too. I spent a few hours on the weekend organizing and sorting fasteners into the side cabinets. Until I build a bigger shop, no blueprint cabinets for me

The shop is back into what I call working condition...meaning clutter is gone and work surfaces clean. My dust network bits should be here tomorrow, so we'll get that sorted out finally.

I gave the bike stand a workout this evening to sort issues with the Hayes hydraulic brakes on the Trek. The trick was making my own bleeder with a large syringe mated to an inflation needle. The ability to spin the bike so the reservoir (integrated into the hand grip) was at very highest point, and calipers at the very lowest, made the job easy. Bleeding bike brakes is nothing at all like cars..you do everything at the reservoir.

drivesitfar · Apr 27, 2016

Woody: I can't say I've ever done a brake job, but since my brakes are squeaking now after having my friend do one a couple weeks ago i'm thinking it's about time. especially since he's building his retirement home about 2 hours from my house and he's older than I am and wanting to retire. I think the last time I actually tore into a car I was in my 20's and changed a water pump and maybe a timing chain. other than that it's just tires, batteries and an occasional oil change. once you needed a different tool for every nut and bolt and a computer to tell you what to do I deferred to the experts.

I know Blueprint or my huge storage cabinets are not a good fit for you in your shop now, but keep an eye out for some and stick them in storage at work for when you move because they are handy. I can't even tell you how much new ones would cost and the old ones are probably built better. with architects and planners putting everything on hard drives these old wood and steel flat file cabinets are finally available at decent prices. keep your eyes open for LYON cabinets of any kind because they are my favorite and built like tanks. check out the metal LYON bins I just picked up in the metal cabinet thread. they will be handy so I can find stuff easier.

so is the bike yours or your daughter's or wife's? do you all ride? hope the weather is continuing to get nicer in your area and I was thinking it was August around here because it's been so nice lately. i'm having to mow our lawn two and three times a week now not to mention how fast the weeds are growing.

cheers and hope you are having a great week.

Denwood · Apr 27, 2016

Drive, we have a pretty amazing network of single-track, technical, recreational etc. trails within 5km of the house. That's where my brother I tend to ride..the girls, not so much

. Most of riding with the family over the last few years was with a tag-a-long, or chariot trailer attached..so looking forward to more trail solo rides this year.

Nothing says "snow risk is zero" like the semi-annual winter/summer tire swap

. The A3 TDI seems to have weathered old man winter just fine.

bruincounselor · Apr 28, 2016

Denwood said:
Nothing says "snow risk is zero" like the semi-annual winter/summer tire swap . The A3 TDI seems to have weathered old man winter just fine.

Now it's going to snow for sure!

:lol_hitti

Denwood · Apr 28, 2016

Bruin, if it does, I'm walking!

And now, for something completely different

A local filmaker, Matt Popowich did this 30 second clip for us. It is perhaps my favorite, and funniest we've done to date. It was shot to promote a series of "deals of the week" and in this case showcases our Axis jib (camera crane). The patented Axis jib, designed from thin air using finite analysis, is completely designed, machined and built locally. Clicking on the image will take you to the player.

Bassfishing54 · Apr 28, 2016

As long as you guys keep it up there. That is a "BAD" 4 lettered word in my books! Didn't even see a flurry this past winter and that suits me just fine! Supposed to be 86 and sunny today. Great weekend for the Beach!

Denwood · Apr 28, 2016

Bass, I suspect a trip to the beach here would result in hypothermia and/or shrinkage of Costanza like proportions

Bassfishing54 · Apr 28, 2016

The ocean was pretty decent last weekend at Fripp Island, just wading with my granddaughter, but a little colder than I prefer, but grandpa is a sucker when it comes to her. Our pool is up to 82 without heat and definitely colder than the ocean. Won't be long till it is a real nice temp and ready for one of those afternoon dips, after working up a good sweat.

drivesitfar · Apr 28, 2016

BASS: the ocean is warmer than 82? around here even if the temps are in the 80's and 90's I bet that PUGET SOUND which is salt water and goes straight into the pacific is maybe 40 degrees.

Woody: I haven't been in the ocean or even the lakes around here that are a little cool (maybe not cool like your area), but the Seinfeld effect (Constanza's dilemma) is definitely a TRUEISM here.

some of the guys in Michigan and Montana said it snowed so did you maybe take the Audi's snow tires off a few days too early. or didn't it snow in your area today?

cheers big guy

Denwood · Apr 29, 2016

Nope, it's a balmy 49 F here today. Ha. Should be a nice work weekend though to get my little dust system setup. I'm using one of these kits:

After doing a 4" system at the office shop, I realized velocity would be much better with a 2 1/2" system powered by my Rigid vac at 179 CFM. To that kit, we add the vac and Dust deputy. Trying things out on my table saw, I figure I should have sorted dust management out a long time ago. The dust deputy seems to end up taking 99% of the sawdust, meaning the vacuum suction stays much higher with a clean filter.

We have two of these Rigid 14 gallon vacs in two locations over the last 2-3 yrs, easily my favorite shop vac ever. They are relatively quiet, and move a ton of air. Looking over a few web reviews, they also seem to end up on top most of the time.

drivesitfar · Apr 29, 2016

Woody: I love it when you talk DIRTY. looks awesome and looking forward to the pictures of your set up. WELL DONE and I know it will work great if you are at the controls.

I picked up an old grinder today and it actually had two small bleach bottles with holes cut in them so the ports out the back of the grinder barely fit on them. the old guy was a thinker and wish I could have bought all his woodshop. if I only had the space and unlimited spending i'd probably be closer to my quest of HE WHO OWNS THE MOST TOOLS WHEN HE DIES, WINS.

cheers big guy and hope you have a great weekend.

Grumblebum · Apr 30, 2016

Dennis, looking forward to your dust extraction review. I've been trying to work out something similar myself too that is small and portable.

I tested my table saw on my dad's 2HP 1200 CFM extractor a few weeks ago and it worked a treat, however they are too big a unit to store in my garage.

We can get the dust deputy deluxe kit here for $189 AU which is about the same price range as a smaller 1HP extractor.

https://www.carbatec.com.au/dust-control/accessories/dust-deputy-deluxe-1-c-6kg-35-35-49-cm

Cheers GB.

1/2 Cup · Apr 30, 2016

Dennis, as above. :thumbup:

I have just a basic Triton setup for the saw and router tables that I connect to my shop vac. It works reasonably well.

http://www.tritontools.com/en-GB/Model/DCA300

Regards

Denwood · May 1, 2016

Drive, Grumble here we go. 1/2 the Dust Deputy set up is not so different from your Triton, but it uses 2 1/2" hose

I wanted to keep things as simple, clean and compact as possible. The shop vac can be pulled out in seconds for use off-site, and the hose/attachments can be attached to any of the blast gates.

The Dust Deputy is tucked in behind the drill press. Hose is all 2 1/2". I bought a 50 ft roll, for both the home and business shop.

Attachment for the Rigid table saw via 2 1/2 to 4" adapter:

Chop saw setup, pretty much the same as radial arm saw connection:

2 1/2" clear pipe and 3 blast gates tucked under cabinets:

The vacuum ends up sucking up almost nothing:

The cyclone bucket though is pretty full:

Analog Vaccum Controller

If you want an effective vacuum control using two circuits, this works well: http://ivacswitch.com/ivac-switch/ You plug the tool into this box, and when powered, it fires up the vacuum. It delays the vacuum power off by about 5 seconds to clear the lines. It can draw power from one or two 110V circuits...two being the preferred set up if you're drawing more than 15 amps for the vacuum and tools.

Fancy pants Automation Control of Vacuum

I decided to try my hand at writing a Smart App, and using automation to run the vacuum. If you're interested in setting this up for yourself, I posted the code, and instructions over at the SmartThings forum. You'd need a Smarthings Hub (about $100), the app I wrote, and a few smart plugs to make this work. Being that I already have the garage automated, the incremental cost was low.

Using this type of control, you don't need to run extension cords from a device like the iVac switch for each tool. You can also have more than just one device controlled using the Smart app..and you can set the turn off delay to whatever you like.

This Zwave receptacle can be controlled via Zwave wireless. The automation hub communicates with the controlled half of the receptacle, and switches it on and off based on what the Smart App I wrote tells it to do. The Rigid vacuum is connected to the controlled receptacle.

This Aeon-Labs-DSC06106 Smart Energy Switch reports energy use to the automation hub. So if a tool is connected to it, and powered up, the switch communicates the power increase to the hub (via zWave wireless) which in turn powers on/off the vacuum. This means you can plug any tool into any circuit, and the vacuum will turn on/off automatically. The downside to using this app is that there is a bit more delay than when using the iVac switch.

Table saw plugged in to Aeon Smart Energy Switch.

A close look.

My assistant showed up late to test things out

Grumblebum · May 1, 2016

Thanks Dennis that's great. I think I have a spot where I could mount a DD and plumb in a couple of blast gates that would cover my needs quite well. I have the same style dewalt saw and stand that you have.

A little research on parts supplies at my end and I'll see what I can put together.

Also like the ivacswitch, 1/2 cup you may know of something equivalent here perhaps ?

Cheers Grumblebum :beer2:

drivesitfar · May 1, 2016

Woody: not only did you make a huge improvement to the shop you've made it VERY HIGH TECH and KID FRIENDLY. more dad of the year points added and the helper looks very happy. WELL DONE SIR

cheers and hope you have a relaxing day today.

kcarter13 · May 1, 2016

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Awesome setup. You have convinced me on the dust deputy. Where did you find the hardware kit you showed a photo of with the blast gates, tubing, brackets etc?

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Bob Heine · May 1, 2016

Dennis, I really like the dust collection system. I'm pretty sure I have a saw under the dust in my shop so I'm thinking about doing the dumber version of your high-tech setup (iVac switch, tubing, dust deputy and blast gates.

Denwood said:

So sad to see such a shy and depressed child. Even if it isn't true, when your daughter brings home her first boyfriend, tell him "That's my daughter -- if you hurt her in any way, remember that I'm not afraid to go back to prison!" just before he takes her out.

Denwood · May 1, 2016

Grumblebum said:
Thanks Dennis that's great. I think I have a spot where I could mount a DD and plumb in a couple of blast gates that would cover my needs quite well. I have the same style dewalt saw and stand that you have.

I started with just firing the vacuum hose up inside the saw's 4" dust port on the base and immediately saw the light..just didn't like how the shop vac plugged up so quickly. This setup works really well

drivesitfar said:
Woody:

cheers and hope you have a relaxing day today.

Drive, it was a very nice weekend indeed as my younger sis was in town to introduce her new baby to the family

. You deserve some kind of "Garage Promoter and All-Round Nice Guy Award" for all the encouragement you provide for myself and many other posters!

kcarter13 said:
Awesome setup. You have convinced me on the dust deputy. Where did you find the hardware kit you showed a photo of with the blast gates, tubing, brackets etc?

Kc, thanks for the kind words

Lee Valley Tools sells the kit, and individual bits as well. We ordered the Dust Deputy kits and iVac at the same time. http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=62594&cat=1,42401,62597

Bob Heine said:
Dennis, I really like the dust collection system. I'm pretty sure I have a saw under the dust in my shop so I'm thinking about doing the dumber version of your high-tech setup (iVac switch, tubing, dust deputy and blast gates.

So sad to see such a shy and depressed child. Even if it isn't true, when your daughter brings home her first boyfriend, tell him "That's my daughter -- if you hurt her in any way, remember that I'm not afraid to go back to prison!" just before he takes her out.

Bob, thanks for checking in. You won't regret any efforts made in the dust management department. Working clean is awesome

. My youngest is a real firecracker and comes out to the shop often. She explained the entire system to my wife, requiring that I pop the cyclone lid and show off her dirt collection prowess. She has big plans for a playhouse that we'll likely start on very soon

kcarter13 · May 1, 2016

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Sort don't mean to take you off topic. But what are you using for dust collection on your table saw?

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