Show us Your Vintage Bench Grinders!!!!

torqueman2002 · Sep 22, 2016

I found a Baldor 7312 B dual speed grinder on CL today.

Edit: The seller said it came out of an Illinois Tool Works (ITW) Red Head factory near New Buffalo, MI.

A nice drive to the west side of MI and it rode back with me. It has a Baldor water cup and an extra CI water cup from a discarded stand.

1/2 HP @ 3600 RPM & 5.0 Amps / .3 HP @ 1800 RPM & 3.6 Amps

This guy may be headed to my brother.

Thanks for looking.

torqueman2002 · Sep 22, 2016

454ragtop said:
Stumbled across this minty Baldor manufactured Rockwell over the weekend. I've already sent it on its way to Long Island.

Nice sturdy grinder there, ragtop. :thumbup:

thehorse13 said:
Some of you may have seen this little portable B&D on my restoration thread but I figured I would throw it in this thread too.

I like the old B&D grinders.

bill300d said:
My B&D 595

Shiftless · Sep 23, 2016

torqueman:
Interesting Blue Point grinder ad you posted.
Here is the name plate of mine. Same model number (almost) but seems to have been built by somebody other than Wissota according to experts on this thread. Mine is 1/3 HP and the one you posted is marked 1/2

Shiftless · Sep 23, 2016

As found pic of my Blue Point grinder

exmaxima1 · Sep 23, 2016

Shiftless said:
torqueman:
Interesting Blue Point grinder ad you posted.
Here is the name plate of mine. Same model number (almost) but seems to have been built by somebody other than Wissota according to experts on this thread. Mine is 1/3 HP and the one you posted is marked 1/2

The grinder Torqueman posted is definitely Wissota-made, and 1/3hp as well. It has 1/2" arbors, so maybe that was the confusion. If you post a pic of your grinder we may be able to shed some light on its mfg.

torqueman2002 · Sep 23, 2016

Shiftless said:
As found pic of my Blue Point grinder

Nice find.

Blue Point/Snap On use quality suppliers for the tools they don't make themselves.

At $40 ask, that one in Blissfield is hard to pass up.

Shiftless · Sep 23, 2016

Here is a shot of mine with the wheels and guards off.
BTW, I got mine for the same $40
In the SF Bay Area that is even more remarkable. It came with a very nice stone dressing tool as well. This one runs quite smoothly but for some reason the cord is cracked in many places and very unsafe looking. (easy enough to replace) Maybe ozone from past useage near an arc welder?

torqueman2002 · Sep 23, 2016

Shiftless said:
Here is a shot of mine with the wheels and guards off.
BTW, I got mine for the same $40
In the SF Bay Area that is even more remarkable. It came with a very nice stone dressing tool as well. This one runs quite smoothly but for some reason the cord is cracked in many places and very unsafe looking. (easy enough to replace) Maybe ozone from past useage near an arc welder?

That is a You **** find!

The power cords, condensers, and power switches are consumables, like wheels/stones - just not as frequently.

I've used: Coleman Cable 9856 16/3-Gauge SJEO Power Supply Cord, Black, 9-Foot.
$12.27 & Free shipping w/Amazon Prime

You can also use the male end of a 16/3 or 14/3 extension cable, and still have the rest of the cable to put a new male end on.

drivesitfar · Sep 23, 2016

Doc: are you keeping the Baldor lighted shield for GO BLUE or for another grinder? let me know how you like them cause i've got a pair on a shelf i'm going to use on one of my grinders.

nice find

exmaxima1 · Sep 23, 2016

Shiftless said:
Here is a shot of mine with the wheels and guards off.
BTW, I got mine for the same $40
In the SF Bay Area that is even more remarkable. It came with a very nice stone dressing tool as well. This one runs quite smoothly but for some reason the cord is cracked in many places and very unsafe looking. (easy enough to replace) Maybe ozone from past useage near an arc welder?

That looks like a very old Doerr grinder to my eyes. And cords are so cheap I tend to change them on virtually every machine I buy. I bought a (qty 24) bag of new 8' long 14/3 power cords for $2 at a garage sale last summer, so I'm set for a long time

torqueman2002 · Sep 24, 2016

drivesitfar said:
Doc: are you keeping the Baldor lighted shield for GO BLUE or for another grinder? let me know how you like them cause i've got a pair on a shelf i'm going to use on one of my grinders.

nice find

That IS a good thought, but on second thought I might keep it as-is for myself.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=340174

flavc3 · Sep 25, 2016

Can anyone tell me more about this grinder. I dont know anything about them but saw this one for $25 and just couldn't pass it up. I know its missing the covers and part of the "housing " on the right is cracked.....but again for 25 i dont think i did too bad. my first grinder ever...now just gotta decide what to use it for :dunno:

Thanks

drivesitfar · Sep 25, 2016

Flav: any old Milwaukee tool and most of the new ones are AWESOME so you did very well. also i'd toss the stone and get a new one or wire wheels for that grinder and spiff it up a little before firing it up. check out GRINDER SAFETY 101 thread and know that a little and especially a 3/4 HP grinder can KILL you if you don't pay attention. also get a full face shield especially if you are going to put wire wheels on it.

DOC: i saw you admit that you might be a BALDOR guy but your BlockHead membership is still ok because you might own more of them than any two other members unless you sold them all.

maybe give the relatives the blocks and keep the milwaukees, baldors and daytons.

454ragtop · Sep 25, 2016

flavc3 said:
Can anyone tell me more about this grinder. I dont know anything about them but saw this one for $25 and just couldn't pass it up. I know its missing the covers and part of the "housing " on the right is cracked.....but again for 25 i dont think i did too bad. my first grinder ever...now just gotta decide what to use it for
Thanks

I'd put a wire wheel on the other side. Looks like the PO was a hack, looking at the way that wheel is worn. Need to dress it, although there might not be a whole lot left by the time you dress that crater out.

thehorse13 · Sep 25, 2016

No doubt that you did well. Throw another 40 bucks at that grinder and you'll have a fully functional and beautiful tool for the rest of your life.

exmaxima1 · Sep 26, 2016

flavc3 said:
Can anyone tell me more about this grinder. I dont know anything about them but saw this one for $25 and just couldn't pass it up. I know its missing the covers and part of the "housing " on the right is cracked.....but again for 25 i dont think i did too bad. my first grinder ever...now just gotta decide what to use it for
Thanks

Looks like it was made by Doerr based on the motor design and guards. My Milwaukee grinder was made by Wissota and looks drastically different. Good buy!

flavc3 · Sep 26, 2016

Thanks for the response everyone. I definitely want to put a wire wheel on one side as I have a York 125 to fix up and restore. As for the grinding stone I assume that "dressing the wheel" means to grind it flat and level.....I guess there's a special tool for that? Might just buy a new stone for it. Does anybody know when it was made? Also it "looks" heavy duty...but is it classified as that?
Once again thanks everyone.

rickhigginshtbr · Oct 2, 2016

I've been trying not to buy anything until I sell down on a lot that I have... but couldn't resist this beaut yesterday...

an old Craftsman 115.7397 1/3HP 7" grinder on a pedestal stand. I mean, look at the eye shields, the tool rests, how the lights were recessed back in there... has there ever been a more beautifully designed grinder?

So since the misses says "why do you need 4 grinders?", I had to list one of my blocks last night...

torqueman2002 · Oct 2, 2016

rickhigginshtbr said:
I've been trying not to buy anything until I sell down on a lot that I have... but couldn't resist this beaut yesterday...

an old Craftsman 115.7397 1/3HP 7" grinder on a pedestal stand. I mean, look at the eye shields, the tool rests, how the lights were recessed back in there... has there ever been a more beautifully designed grinder?

So since the misses says "why do you need 4 grinders?", I had to list one of my blocks last night...

Very nice!

The red plastic cooling tray is rare to find intact.

My wife has asked that same question, BTW.

She still has more baskets than I have grinders; but, I am catching up fast. :lol:

Mike W. · Oct 2, 2016

rickhigginshtbr said:
I've been trying not to buy anything until I sell down on a lot that I have... but couldn't resist this beaut yesterday...

an old Craftsman 115.7397 1/3HP 7" grinder on a pedestal stand. I mean, look at the eye shields, the tool rests, how the lights were recessed back in there... has there ever been a more beautifully designed grinder?

So since the misses says "why do you need 4 grinders?", I had to list one of my blocks last night...

Awesome grinder! I saw one like this on CL here in Florida, it was too far away or I would have jumped on it lol

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exmaxima1 · Oct 3, 2016

rickhigginshtbr said:
I've been trying not to buy anything until I sell down on a lot that I have... but couldn't resist this beaut yesterday...

an old Craftsman 115.7397 1/3HP 7" grinder on a pedestal stand. I mean, look at the eye shields, the tool rests, how the lights were recessed back in there... has there ever been a more beautifully designed grinder?
.

I'm pretty certain that Outlaw has one like that, and it is indeed a rare find :thumbup:

How much does it weigh? I'm guessing around 75 lbs without the stand.

rickhigginshtbr · Oct 5, 2016

I haven't taken it off the stand yet, but from the car to the basement, think I took two breaks carrying it, lol. The stand is probably around 60ish, the grinder probably another 50-60ish lbs.

Harry Oh · Oct 12, 2016

I recently got a Stanley 677 7 inch tool sharpener, grinder complete with lighted eyeshieldes but was missing the tool holder on the plane and chisel attachment. Is there a good picture on this site or somewhere on line. Every picture I've seen are not very plain when blowing up to try and see some detail of the part. I'd like to know what I'm looking for looks like.

MissileBear · Oct 18, 2016

From left to right:

Craftsman 1/3 HP roundtop, Craftsman Commercial 1/2 HP flattop, and 60's(?) Black and Decker 3/4 HP model 74.

Mike W. · Oct 18, 2016

I want that one in the middle

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bagged89s10 · Oct 22, 2016

Can anyone id this grinder? It's 3 phase but I kind of want it for the stand and shields.

Shiftless · Oct 23, 2016

Looks a little like it was made from a truck differential. :bounce:

A E Numan · Oct 23, 2016

I have a 1965 Wissota E7 1/2 hp with 7 inch wheels. It's missing both tool rests, spark guard's and the wheel covers and water trough. Something I haven't seen on pictures of other Wissota grinders is the way the water trough is held in the two angled feet cast in to the front of the grinder.

exmaxima1 · Oct 23, 2016

A E Numan said:
I have a 1965 Wissota E7 1/2 hp with 7 inch wheels. It's missing both tool rests, spark guard's and the wheel covers and water trough. Something I haven't seen on pictures of other Wissota grinders is the way the water trough is held in the two angled feet cast in to the front of the grinder.

I agree that quench tray mount is rare, and I've never seen a Wissota like that (it should like the attached pic). Good find.

A E Numan · Oct 23, 2016

Thank's for posting that picture! it's nice to see one in original condition. Now I know what to keep an eye out for.

Rileysan · Oct 24, 2016

Must be a GJ member selling this Craftsman block grinder on CL. Great description but didn't mention it was missing the guards. $85 is probably too much if missing parts ...

https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/tls/5841740448.html

From the ad:

Very Nice Vintage Craftsman BLOCK MOTOR Bench Grinder.
Runs strong, smooth and quiet. These are awesome grinders with
well built ball bearing motors. Will outlast the cheap ones by far!!
6" Wheels, adjustable tool rests and work light. If you're not familiar
with Block Motor Grinders, Here's some info below:
Craftsman Block motor Bench Grinders - What's the Fuss

What is a Block grinder?
"... the classic Craftsman bench grinders that were manufactured for Sears by Paramount/Allegretti & Co. from the early 1960's to early 1980's. Affectionately known as "Block Motor" grinders because of their unique shape, these power tools have developed a large following among shop enthusiasts because of their legendary reliability, accuracy, and power.

"People always want to know what makes these things {CM Block grinders} so special; here's the reason. Look at those field windings. That is some VERY thick copper wire. When compared to a modern Chinese winding, these look GIGANTIC. The imports use very thin field wire. This is what makes these "block motors" so darn powerful and long lasting."

bagged89s10 · Oct 24, 2016

Hoping to pick up the Rockwell this up this week. I believe it's made by wissota.

exmaxima1 · Oct 24, 2016

Rileysan said:
Must be a GJ member selling this Craftsman block grinder on CL. Great description but didn't mention it was missing the guards. $85 is probably too much if missing parts ...

https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/tls/5841740448.html

From the ad:

What guards are missing? Both end covers are present in the pics. But still very high price for a 1/3hp on CL.

exmaxima1 · Oct 24, 2016

bagged89s10 said:
Hoping to pick up the Rockwell this up this week. I believe it's made by wissota.

Definitely Wissota and a solid Baldor stand as well. Not much demand for 3P grinders, so hopefully the price will reflect that. Good Luck!

bagged89s10 · Oct 24, 2016

exmaxima1 said:
Definitely Wissota and a solid Baldor stand as well. Not much demand for 3P grinders, so hopefully the price will reflect that. Good Luck!

$95 and I just noticed that it was 3 phase after I posted the pic. I know I can get my money back if I sell the stand, but I want the stand. Do you think I can sell the grinder for $100?

exmaxima1 · Oct 24, 2016

bagged89s10 said:
$95 and I just noticed that it was 3 phase after I posted the pic. I know I can get my money back if I sell the stand, but I want the stand. Do you think I can sell the grinder for $100?

You seem to be able to sell anything, but in the Chicago area a 3-phase bench grinder is an anchor. Maybe if you included a static converter to run it on single-phase? I see similar single phase machines selling for less than $100, so I think it's a tough sell....

Rileysan · Oct 25, 2016

exmaxima1 said:
What guards are missing? Both end covers are present in the pics. But still very high price for a 1/3hp on CL.

I used the wrong terminology. I meant face shields.

exmaxima1 · Oct 25, 2016

Rileysan said:
I used the wrong terminology. I meant face shields.

Sorry, I didn't catch that.

Isaiah6113 · Oct 25, 2016

bagged89s10 said:
Hoping to pick up the Rockwell this up this week. I believe it's made by wissota.

Look at it this way, you bought a fantastic Baldor stand for $100, and the previous owner threw in an awesome Wissota, 3ph grinder.

You could part it out, in the right place those parts will sell.

Better, get a VFD and use that grinder for the rest of your life, then your kids can use it for the rest of theirs. They can change the bearings, then your grandkids can use grandpa's grinder for the rest of their lives.

I know what I'd do.

Matthew

MissileBear · Oct 25, 2016

Isaiah6113 said:
Better, get a VFD and use that grinder for the rest of your life, then your kids can use it for the rest of theirs. They can change the bearings, then your grandkids can use grandpa's grinder for the rest of their lives.

I agree. Or, you could go big and just get 3 phase power run to your garage

Seriously though, that stand is probably worth the $100 alone.

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