The 101169 is suppose to be a C1.
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The 101169 is suppose to be a C1.
CrotalusAtrox
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Mine was not a Chicago it was a Schiller
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Mark in Indiana
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Wow..
Ahhh never mind, looks like it just sold... Dang
72,
I know how you feel. Last weekend, I lost out on a vintage Craftsman 9" woodworking vise that featured quick release, for 50$. This vise looked like it was NOS!While I was fawning over it, an older fellow came up to me and told me that he bought it.
All that I could do was thank him for saving me 50$. OK...I really don't NEED another vise, but that one was sooo cool.
All,
I copied & posted a few, but not all of the pictures of great & interesting vises that should be posted in the 2016 Visees Pageant. I encourage all you guys & gals to enter your vises there.
Drives,
The little "L" vise that you showed is pretty handy. I have a Champion L-vise (last 2 pictures), that came in handy to hold a long 2 x 4 while I was cutting it with a portable saw. In the past I've used c-clamps, which leave marks on the wood, if I don't use some kind of a pad. Although I bought it to restore & flip, it's a keeper.
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I really like the color on that vise. Those old 1950s pastel greens look good on a vise
Boatman53
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I posted a pic of mine when it first came up, here it is again. It has a '64 date stamp.
What do you want to know?
Jim
What do you want to know?
Jim
WhoWhatNow
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That is beautiful. Congratulations
Details please. Where did you find it? Weight? Get a good deal?
GETRIDAONE
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It doesn't get any better than that.
It doesn't get any better than that.
drivesitfar
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Vises: Welcome to the forum and if you did buy that vise would you mind posting up a few more pictures of those jaws? they looked like maybe they had some damage or welding, but the rest of the vise looks like in pretty good shape. we've been looking for it's 695 pound big brother, but that looks like a KEEPER. i also like the wing nut retainer on the back of the dynamic so if you could show a couple more pictures of that i'd appreciate it.
i have a few LMV vises with that similar retainer, but i do like the wings on yours a lot better.
NICE FIND!!!
Mark: next time you might happen to use that little vise holding a 2x4 would you mind snapping a few pictures and posting them showing the vise in use cause i'm not quite sure how you are using it? thanks for the 411 on mine and i won't toss it in a drawer just yet.
Boatman: does your C0 have Schiller Park or Chicago on the side of yours?
ALL: those little C0 Wilton vises look massive in the pictures. for a 3.5 inch vise they probably could do maybe 90% or more of any of the work in most people's shops.
i have a few LMV vises with that similar retainer, but i do like the wings on yours a lot better.
NICE FIND!!!
Mark: next time you might happen to use that little vise holding a 2x4 would you mind snapping a few pictures and posting them showing the vise in use cause i'm not quite sure how you are using it? thanks for the 411 on mine and i won't toss it in a drawer just yet.
Boatman: does your C0 have Schiller Park or Chicago on the side of yours?
ALL: those little C0 Wilton vises look massive in the pictures. for a 3.5 inch vise they probably could do maybe 90% or more of any of the work in most people's shops.
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macgee
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So I'm back from my absence and since you guys have seen every single vise made on this planet I thought I request your help seeking the maker.
Does anybody recognize this little bullet vise? It's a nice little vise and very similar to a Wilton baby and not badly made. The spindle nut is held in place with pins like a wilton, spindle nut can float up and down while held by the pins, the spindle is held in the dynamic by a set screw.
The head of the spindle is marked "Made in Poland" and there is a stamped marking on the bottom but I can't read the main word in the logo but below it is marked Tarnow which is a city in Poland.
Does anyone recognize this little vise and know the name? Thanks
Does anybody recognize this little bullet vise? It's a nice little vise and very similar to a Wilton baby and not badly made. The spindle nut is held in place with pins like a wilton, spindle nut can float up and down while held by the pins, the spindle is held in the dynamic by a set screw.
The head of the spindle is marked "Made in Poland" and there is a stamped marking on the bottom but I can't read the main word in the logo but below it is marked Tarnow which is a city in Poland.
Does anyone recognize this little vise and know the name? Thanks
Outlawmws
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PghJKB
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macgee
It is a Baby Bison, made by Bison-BIAL of Poland (AKA FPU - Fabryka Przyrzadow i Uchwytow ).
The Model 1230 Baby Bison is my favorite vise with a jaw size under 3 inches.
The Baby Bison is clamp on swivel vise with 63mm jaws. If it only had a standard bench mount, I would consider it the best under 3 inch ever made.
The Baby Bison, was exported via Metalexport of Warszawa (Warsaw) and were produced by Pokoj of Tarnow, which I believe is a Bison-BIAL factory in the city of Tarnow. If my Polish is correct, Pokoj translates to room or hall. My thought is that Hall is used in the same sense as mill in US English.
Great Find!
Here is link to an FPU catalog that shows this vise. Check out page 192.
www.rebik.si/static/upload/pdf/celotni_katalogi/KATALOG-BISON-BIAL.pdf
JKB
macgee
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No Clue on the maker but maybe "Port" or close to it on that script?
Wow guys, that's excellent work. Thank You!
Outlaw: nice job highlighting the logo but you took so long to do it
To me I thought it was " Baedj " but I'm wrong.
Thank you for the graphic you made; It really helped.
PghJKB:
Awesome information! Thank you so much.
I looked on the internet and could only find one that was similar but was a clamp-on version sold in 2011 and said it was a FPU. I've had several FPU's and love them but they were the completely other style with the reversed dynamic jaw in the inside (Excellent vises). I just wasn't sure if this was one as well as the logo on the bottom didn't match any logo's on the FPU's.
You are correct, Model 1230 Baby Bison on page 192.
I wonder if mine had the same built-in (casted) table clamp or intended as something else?
I don't see any indicators of grind or cutting marks on the bottom except the black paint showing on one section on it. Was the clamp bolt on?
Great info and extremely impressive how quickly you guys are able to respond with info for such an esoteric vise in the US.
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Boatman53
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Drives, my Wilton CO is from Schiller Park is that good or bad? Still need measurements?
Jim
Jim
drivesitfar
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Boatman: just curious. the Chicago stamping is a few years older, but they are both great working vises. i don't know if you knew yours with 2 pins is the better pipe jaws of the C0 series where some have a set screw and others just a sort of spring on the back of the pipe jaws. thanks
MAC: looks like the guys figured out your vice pretty nicely and quickly. nice find.
also welcome back!!
MAC: looks like the guys figured out your vice pretty nicely and quickly. nice find.
also welcome back!!
Wow guys, that's excellent work. Thank You!
Outlaw: nice job highlighting the logo but you took so long to do it
To me I thought it was " Baedj " but I'm wrong.
Thank you for the graphic you made; It really helped.
PghJKB:
Awesome information! Thank you so much.
I looked on the internet and could only find one that was similar but was a clamp-on version sold in 2011 and said it was a FPU. I've had several FPU's and love them but they were the completely other style with the reversed dynamic jaw in the inside (Excellent vises). I just wasn't sure if this was one as well as the logo on the bottom didn't match any logo's on the FPU's.
You are correct, Model 1230 Baby Bison on page 192.
I wonder if mine had the same built-in (casted) table clamp or intended as something else?
I don't see any indicators of grind or cutting marks on the bottom except the black paint showing on one section on it. Was the clamp bolt on?
Great info and extremely impressive how quickly you guys are able to respond with info for such an esoteric vise in the US.
Actually the word is Pokój, which means Peace (or Room in Polish, depending on context)...
Made in Tarnow; most likely not a Bison Bial at the time of manufacture.
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macgee
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Thank you KWhunter for your knowledge and added information.
With the name you gave me I tried googling " Pokój vise " without much luck, I then tried " Pokój imadło ", is that the proper way of writing Pokój vise in polish?
Still wasn't able to find any vise like mine but did find some other small cool looking ones.
Very cool finding more info about my tiny vise sitting on my work bench that I just found last Sunday at a swap meet. Would love to learn more about it.
The only vise I could found that was similar and pretty much the same one as PghJKB mentioned above when I googled polish baby wilton and this one came up.
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CrotalusAtrox
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Guys I have looked on the interweb for pics of a 404 1/2 Reed with removable jaws and swivel jaw and I can't find a single one does anyone have one or have pics of one ?
CwazyWabbit
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Teaser pic ......
CwazyWabbit
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8, the big Wilton is in two pieces at the minute.
Mark in Indiana
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CW,
What a haul!
What's the vise in the front?
Is the reverse vise in the center a FPU?
What a haul!
What's the vise in the front?
Is the reverse vise in the center a FPU?
drivesitfar
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CW: i'm liking the casting on the i think it's a Swinden (sp?) in front. if it is usually their castings are horrible, but it's a great vise.
cool find and are they all yours? did you just get them or finally start taking pictures of your collection? nice stuff that is for certain.
Mark: the red one in the middle might be a Leinen cause it's got an awfully big base on it that i don't think FPU vices had.
cool find and are they all yours? did you just get them or finally start taking pictures of your collection? nice stuff that is for certain.
Mark: the red one in the middle might be a Leinen cause it's got an awfully big base on it that i don't think FPU vices had.
CwazyWabbit
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As far as I know the reverse jaw vice is not marked with a name.
The front most vice is an 8" Swindens, there is a 6" Swindens near the back and a 6" Volvo of a similar style but it has a much heavier build and makes the 6" Swindens look small.
The front most vice is an 8" Swindens, there is a 6" Swindens near the back and a 6" Volvo of a similar style but it has a much heavier build and makes the 6" Swindens look small.
CwazyWabbit
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DIF: They're all mine, just picked them up tonight, been looking at them for months hence my Wilton questions a few weeks back.
trijeff
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Hi macgee ... here's my baby Bison, it is the cast clamp on version. What's interesting is that yours has three tapped holes in the rotating base (mine does not) ... unless they are counterbored on top (where, if driven from top down [while not mounted to vise], the screwheads would be flush) then it argues that you do in fact have a bolt on clamp model ... I see this is the route they have gone with later vises so perhaps yours is a transirion model. I'm not entirely sure it is a date code, but one side of the clamp handle appears to have a "13", maybe from 2013?
Mark in Indiana
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Drives,
The overall shape of CW's reverse vise looked like a FPU, with the exception of the knob cast on the front end, instead of the spindle nut retaining screws that are on mine.
The overall shape of CW's reverse vise looked like a FPU, with the exception of the knob cast on the front end, instead of the spindle nut retaining screws that are on mine.
Teaser pic ......
Is that a wilton swivel jaw in there?
drivesitfar
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Mark: it could be and maybe CW will post up more pictures of it when he has time. there are a couple other vises that look like FPU's and i can't recall all the names at the moment. there is also knock offs, but CW's haul looks more like vintage type vices (vises).
CW: WELL DONE SIR!!
more pictures as you have time please. thanks in advance
TJ: i was wondering if maybe MAC's vice might have the clamp cut off and then the prior owner tapped 3 holes to put it on a power arm or something like that? it does look older than 3 years so maybe a part #?
CW: WELL DONE SIR!!
more pictures as you have time please. thanks in advanceTJ: i was wondering if maybe MAC's vice might have the clamp cut off and then the prior owner tapped 3 holes to put it on a power arm or something like that? it does look older than 3 years so maybe a part #?
I suspect that early Columbian swivel jaws may have been cast by Prentiss because of the swivel base using a pull pin. If you want another example matchless antiques on eBay sold one like a month ago.
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Outlawmws
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I'm thinking this: You can see the machine marks on the bottom, with a section of "as cast"
CwazyWabbit
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Yep, unfortunately that has been damaged and repaired, I need to look at it closer to establish whether I want to redo the repair as it's a bit 'in your face' so to speak at the moment.
CwazyWabbit
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A few more pics as I just got them out of the Land Rover for the night.
Any ideas what this one below is?
Any ideas what this one below is?
trijeff
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Dang CW, that is definitely a mini EU version of the Golden Pile ... so many gems in there! Well deserved congrats!!!
you're welcome; I guess Pokój is the name of the now defunct company in Tambow, Poland that made them back in the day; the vise itself may have been called something else. Maybe someone brought it to the US as their personal belongings since it's such a rara avis...
macgee
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Show off
I will trade you Drivesitfar's first child for that Volvo vise and he kindly said he would also pay for the oversea shipping to my address
He's a good bloke.Let me know if that sounds good to you and I'll send you my address.
zoomieport
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I have a 404-1/2 like yours and (2) 403-1/2's, a 4C, 3C, 2C and 1C just like it... THEY ARE TOUGH TO FIND.
Take care!
ZOOM
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