Man that's some serious knowledge drop! Love it.. I'd love to get ahold of the actual catalog and have it on display next to my Press
Craftsman Drill Press
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Man that's some serious knowledge drop! Love it.. I'd love to get ahold of the actual catalog and have it on display next to my Press
Cruzan80
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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
Just got an even older Dunlap for $5 at an estate sale today. No motor, but has the spindle pulley, chuck and table. Not the Mohawk one, but an older Atlas. Pics will be up soon.
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Just got an even older Dunlap for $5 at an estate sale today. No motor, but has the spindle pulley, chuck and table. Not the Mohawk one, but an older Atlas. Pics will be up soon.
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Well gents its finally done. Version 2.0 is a success. Although not 100% to the original but close enough. Just couldn't get the exact top roll. I have some ideas how so I'll keep working at it and when it's exactly like the original maybe I'll make it available to others in need. Now into tackling fabricating a return spring and cover. Thanks to everyone who sent photos and measurements. Couldn't have done it without you.
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Outlawmws
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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
I'l be interested to see the pics. AFAIK, Dunlap branding started in '42?
I'l be interested to see the pics. AFAIK, Dunlap branding started in '42?
Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
Was the Dunlap an off brand of Craftsman?
Was the Dunlap an off brand of Craftsman?
Outlawmws
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Sears had numerous trademarked brands. Craftsman was their premium brand, and the warranty reflected that. Over time they had as secondary brands (with less or no warranty) Companion, Dunlap, Companion again Sears, etc.
Some of these were the same quality, (many were not) and the pricing/warranty reflected that.
For power tools, and DP's in particular, A Dunlap might have ONE bearing and the rest were bushings. Nothing wrong with that on a non-industrial DP. It clearly outlived the original purchaser unless really abused...
Some of these were the same quality, (many were not) and the pricing/warranty reflected that.
For power tools, and DP's in particular, A Dunlap might have ONE bearing and the rest were bushings. Nothing wrong with that on a non-industrial DP. It clearly outlived the original purchaser unless really abused...
Cruzan80
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'41. Cant tell if it is actually a Dunlap or Companion, as the same model number was carrried from one branding to another, and the spindle pulley cover had the name. The mohawk Dunlap was '42, and had a straight top to the head, instead of a curve like the Atlas ones.
So it was somewhere between '36 and '41, based on the catalogs. Even back then, it cost more than $5 (lowest I saw was $13 without motor). So I still paid used pricing.
Pics to come soon. Only things that were actually stuck were the bolts holding the motor plate (impact wrench took them off) and the headstock was FIRMLY attached to the pole. May have to do some digging on the spindle/chuck sitation, as it seems to be an excessive amount of thread showing. Pics soon, and will have a restore thread going for it as well.
So it was somewhere between '36 and '41, based on the catalogs. Even back then, it cost more than $5 (lowest I saw was $13 without motor). So I still paid used pricing.
Pics to come soon. Only things that were actually stuck were the bolts holding the motor plate (impact wrench took them off) and the headstock was FIRMLY attached to the pole. May have to do some digging on the spindle/chuck sitation, as it seems to be an excessive amount of thread showing. Pics soon, and will have a restore thread going for it as well.
Cruzan80
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So ndfan, on this particular model it was sleeved bearings vs ball bearings, still made by Atlas for Sears (as reflected in the 101.xxxxx model numbers). And they had a different imprint on the spindle cover.
Too bad it wasn't a Dunlap mohawk, as there is a cover on ebay for $15, and I would kind of like to have pictures of the big brother and little brother (ideally and Dad too, but still haven't found that 103.0304 around here). Maybe I will try and retrofit it? Otherwise, will keep an eye out for a cheap one around here. Probably not keeping it, so not going to spend $40+ on a cover.
Too bad it wasn't a Dunlap mohawk, as there is a cover on ebay for $15, and I would kind of like to have pictures of the big brother and little brother (ideally and Dad too, but still haven't found that 103.0304 around here). Maybe I will try and retrofit it? Otherwise, will keep an eye out for a cheap one around here. Probably not keeping it, so not going to spend $40+ on a cover.
bubinga
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Beautiful.
I could have never done it.
Cruzan80
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NDfan, you forgot the hole in the top for the post to go thru...
Unless you never plan on lowering it.
Unless you never plan on lowering it.
Cruzan80
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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
So here is the Companion/Dunlap, in all its "glory". Apparently it has the same see-thru depth gauge design as the DP-220s. You can really see that royal blue color. Motor mount was removed so as to hold bearings that slipped out. The threaded portion at the bottom of the spindle seems excessively long though. Will post a separate teardown and restore thread, but it doesn't need a lot.
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So here is the Companion/Dunlap, in all its "glory". Apparently it has the same see-thru depth gauge design as the DP-220s. You can really see that royal blue color. Motor mount was removed so as to hold bearings that slipped out. The threaded portion at the bottom of the spindle seems excessively long though. Will post a separate teardown and restore thread, but it doesn't need a lot.
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Your definitely correct with the hole missing. I was debating on doing it or not while waiting for the hole saw that I ordered to show up. I normally don't drill holes that size so had to order one. So I went ahead and painted it. But since I am trying to replicate I'll drill it out. I know what your thinking, stupid to paint then drill. Yes be easier to do before but can be done after. Just have to be extra careful. Like drilling a hole into a motorcycle tank after a customer spent a few hundo getting it painted...lol
Thanks buddy. You definitely could do it..
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Man that is so killer! I love the look of those. Are they hard to restore, meaning finding parts? I'd like to try one of these next
So here is the Companion/Dunlap, in all its "glory". Apparently it has the same see-thru depth gauge design as the DP-220s. You can really see that royal blue color. Motor mount was removed so as to hold bearings that slipped out. The threaded portion at the bottom of the spindle seems excessively long though. Will post a separate teardown and restore thread, but it doesn't need a lot.
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Man that is so killer! I love the look of those. Are they hard to restore, meaning finding parts? I'd like to try one of these next
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Cruzan80
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Depends on the part. Atlas machines are occasionally interchangeable, so they do have that going for them. And depends on what your price concerns are. The spindle covers are usually missing from both the Com/Dunlap/CM versinos. If I can find a Companion head-cover, I would like to do that compared to the Dunlap, as the chances it was a 36-40 are higher than it being a 41. Otherwise, will end up putting a GE 1/2hp on it for sale, since I don't want to dig for a Companion or Dunlap motor.
Cruzan80
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Looking closer, the 36-38 have parallel slots in the table so it is from 39-41. Still better than even it is a Companion, and more people don't know the name compared to Dunlap.
I picked up a couple new projects this weekend... this 103.23871 wood lathe that matches my earlier lathe and several Craftsman motors.
Mam those are nice Franklee.. where and how do you guys find these things? Can't find stuff like that here in South at least where I am..Can't wait to see it restored
Craftsman 111.21560 Lathe Chuck & Jacobs No. 0 Chuck
I bought it mainly for the chuck. I've been looking for one for a while. It also came with this tiny Jacobs No. 0 chuck on a #0 x #1 taper. I hope it will loosen up and I can find a K0 key. I haven't decided whether some of the other lathe parts will be parted-out.
3/6/2017
I started cleaning the lathe chuck and discovered that it's a Craftsman (yay!!!), model 111.21560, patent 1977658. Sears manufacturer code 111 is Watson Mfg. Co.
I ordered a few brass wire tube brushes so I can clean the inside threads. All other small parts are cleaned.
I also got the #0 chuck loosened and turning freely. It took a lot of time, PBlaster, Liquid Wrench, heat, and freeze spray. A chuck key could have made it much easier.
Both chucks will get final cleaning when I can spin them on the lathe.
I bought it mainly for the chuck. I've been looking for one for a while. It also came with this tiny Jacobs No. 0 chuck on a #0 x #1 taper. I hope it will loosen up and I can find a K0 key. I haven't decided whether some of the other lathe parts will be parted-out.
3/6/2017
I started cleaning the lathe chuck and discovered that it's a Craftsman (yay!!!), model 111.21560, patent 1977658. Sears manufacturer code 111 is Watson Mfg. Co.
I ordered a few brass wire tube brushes so I can clean the inside threads. All other small parts are cleaned.
I also got the #0 chuck loosened and turning freely. It took a lot of time, PBlaster, Liquid Wrench, heat, and freeze spray. A chuck key could have made it much easier.
Both chucks will get final cleaning when I can spin them on the lathe.
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I bought it mainly for the chuck. I've been looking for one for a while. It also came with this tiny Jacobs No. 0 chuck on a No. 1 taper. I hope it will loosen up and I can find a K0 key. I haven't decided whether some of the other lathe parts will be parted-out.
Man that's cool. Ever thought about starting a lathe restoration thread like you did with the drill presses? If you haven't already. I am actually wanted to get a lathe. Any suggestions on what to look for and what a decent price range is? Granted I know condition of said tool can vary but a ball park idea to start on.
That never entered my mind and I really have no desire to delve into lathe details like the DPs. I did document the first one some.
I don't have enough experience with wood lathes to give you any meaningful advice.
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bubinga
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probably not all that much different, if not easier,
fasteddie313
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I absolutely LOVE my old Cman drill press!!
It has varislow..
Recently I bought one of these cross slide vices to use with it and it helped me a LOT to make this..
It has varislow..
Recently I bought one of these cross slide vices to use with it and it helped me a LOT to make this..
smalltown
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Frank I don't know the first thing about lathes, but how is that lathe powered? I don't see anyplace to attach a motor or belt 
Frank I don't know the first thing about lathes, but how is that lathe powered? I don't see anyplace to attach a motor or belt
The pulley/belt is inside the head stock. There is no motor currently attached. I need to find a permanent stand yet. The motor can be mounted either behind or below the head stock.
Below is a before photo of the reconditioned head stock which shows belt access to the pulley.
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smalltown
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Thanks Frank !
Cruzan80
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My guess is that the chuck pre-dates the lathe by about 15 yrs or so. Long C vs the engine-turned pattern (shows up on the oval logo). Frank, your guess?
I know this is for Craftsman thread but pulling searches for a Walker turner DP didn't give me much. So thought I'd ask. I found this one on Craigslist. Wants $200. What's it really worth? Figured I'd ask you all since your all very knowledgeable and frequent this thread.
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I think you could be right on with the dates.
The catalog number for these two lathes are both 2387. The 103.2387n lathes were manufactured in '56 and '57. I'm not sure about '58 because catalogs were not printed that year.
The catalog number for the chuck is 2156. The 111.2156n chucks first appeared in the '42 catalog.
Thanks for the advice. I don't know why I didn't think about do it that. Sometimes logic is lost with me..Lol.. anyway I did start one and received a lot of good information.
Well gents I am super excited to announce that I have a quil return spring now for my 103.0305. I am so excited. The return spring is from a Sears Roebuck model 101 drill press that also fit Atlas model 1010. So excited right now. The press is 100% complete now..Thank you seriously to everyone that has helped me on my first restoration
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bubinga
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e bay?
Haha yeah. Let me guess, you the seller?
bubinga
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LOL.......................NO!
But That's funny.
Hell, I'd a gave it to you..........................
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Is that a Clock spring or torsion type?
LOL.......................NO!
But That's funny.
Hell, I'd a gave it to you..........................
EDIT,
Is that a Clock spring or torsion type?
Shoot wish you could have given me one.. it is a clock spring type. Now trying to figure it out. When placed into the quill it returns down and not up. Lol.. I feel really stupid for asking but seriously am I missing something about installing one of these? It has been confirmed buy someone else who used the exact same spring in his that it works..Haven't really tried to figure it out. Didn't have a lot of time to mess with it today
Cruzan80
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You have it tensioned at the wrong point. Try releasing the tension, and turning it the other way. Don't feel bad, it took me a few tries to get mine right after removal.