~Loctite 609) to aid in securing the hub to the pinion shaft.
I missed the "securing the hub to the pinion shaft" Iwas thinking you meant the pin only.
Yes, I think between the short pin, and the 609, it should hold nicely.
Had to buy another bottle today. I swear it wasn't $19 last time I bought it. Precious stuff! Oh well, I will likely use a bit of it on the spindle pulley bearings as well.oh for sure.Yes.... I may also use a little on the pin too, though.
I also discovered my "old" bottle of 609 had expired (according to the date on the bottle) and had thickened up. DAMN.Had to buy another bottle today. I swear it wasn't $19 last time I bought it. Precious stuff! Oh well, I will likely use a bit of it on the spindle pulley bearings as well.

I hate to ask at this point, but did you try the hub 180 degrees the other way as well? (I may have missed that comment)
Another suggestion is to use a dab of JB weld in the crescent moon hole to add support. its should not have enough surface area to be a strong bond for later removal but will add torsional support, hub to pin.
Maybe clean the area with denatured alcohol, then carefully "contaminate" the shaft (but not the hub & pin) so the bond wont stuck to the shaft. (Fine artist brush and a light grease like gun grease or dielectric grease? You don't need much...)
For future reference, you could have filled the offset hole with JB W prior to drilling, and cleared the shaft hole with the right size drill, then positioned and drilled.

I wasn't thinking aesthetics, but axial loading during drilling.
If the JB weld is on the unloaded side, then minimal help.
If its on the loaded side, where the hub is putting pressure on the pin on one side only, it could fail over time. The JB weld would fill that gap and provide more support.
The lock-tite may be great for keeping the hub from walking off, but this is essentially a press and you have a lot of leverage when drilling, and ALL of it loads that pin...
Bill C when you buff those metal parts do you use a buffing wheel ?
Yours came out great. Some day I would like to do mine.
Bill get about a 1" spacer and space he wheels closer to the ends of the shafts...
I'd bet a plastic spacer stack would do it...(use two spreader washers)
Ideally, you'd have a dedicated buffing machine (and believe it or not, I hear good things about the Harbor Freight Buffing machine). With just the one machine like I have, it is cumbersome to switch back to "grinder mode" as I need to swap wheels and reinstall the inner and outer guards/eye shields etc. For myself, though, I cant justify the investment or the floor/bench space for two discrete machines.
Bill get about a 1" spacer and space he wheels closer to the ends of the shafts...
I'd bet a plastic spacer stack would do it...(use two spreader washers)

An arbor extension is a good way to get your buffing wheels mounted further out from the body of the grinder.
https://www.caswellplating.com has a good selection---search "Shaft adaptor" to find your size.
https://www.swmetal.com/shaft-extensions-drill-arbors-s/1514.htm
SW Metal also has what you need.
If you have a little bit of space, you might try what many of us have. I have a old Craftsman floor standing DP base and column with two tables and a light. One has a Craftsman grinder on it, one a Craftsman Buffer. Very easy to swing one or the other into the exact height and spot I need it. Sure beats moving and swapping things around.
OK time to seek some more input from the experts. This time its in regards to the original motor (P/N 115.6962) on my drillpress.
I am trying to decide whether or not I tear the motor apart and give it a thorough overhaul, or just give it a nice exterior clean/bearing re-lube and let her run.
Ordinarily, I go overboard on any old tool refurb/rebuild and meticulously clean, rebuild, refinish every component. I am trying a new approach with this drill press by not going over-the-top. I want to clean things up as best as possible but also leave well enough alone when possible.
So for the motor thus far:
I have cleaned the bearings (in-place) and re-packed them with high quality synthetic bearing grease. I have inspected the internal wiring behind the terminal cover plate and also underneath the capacitor. All the insulation looks pretty good with the exception of the power cord (which I will replace).
The motor starts right up w/ ease and runs quietly (to my uneducated ear). The only thing that concerns me is the noise from the governor/centrifugal switch. When I rotate the motor shaft by hand, it seems makes some rattling/knocking sounds. I am not sure if this is typical or not. Most of my experience is with newer electric motors and they are typically already attached to a machine (with belts and what not) so any specific internal motor noises are masked by the sound of the entire machine operation.
So...... should I pull it apart and investigate the internal switching mechanism or does it sound normal? I have uploaded two videos that I think accurately capture the sounds (both while running and via manual movement of the motor shaft). Both videos seems to attenuate the motor sounds, it is actually a good bit quieter in person.
Here are the two videos I took. Please let me know your thoughts. (Sorry for the long post!).
Here is the clunking/rattling sound when manually rotating the shaft:
And here is a video of motor start-up, run, and shut down. You can hear the centrifugal switch disengage at shut down as the motor spins down.
I would never call myself an expert, especially on electrical and motors, so I will only comment on my experiences.
I believe the centrifugal switch sounds pretty normal when you turn it by hand. I keep meaning to make a post on the centrifugal switch, so maybe your post is the motivation.
Your motor sounds very good running and stopping. For comparison, check these videos I posted a while back on how I rejuvenate the bearing lubrication. My motor is the same model as yours.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6993604
Thanks Frank. The before/after videos you shared really helped. Yours sounds very similar to mine, so that bolsters my confidence. I struggle often with leaving well enough alone... but I think I can do it with this motor
One more thing - Do you know the purpose of the felt washers? I know some bearings use felt to hold extra oil and keep the bearing lubricated. In the case of these C-man motors, though, they don't appear to serve that purpose as they are spaced away from the bearing and sandwiched between the inner plate and cover plate.
I would never call myself an expert, especially on electrical and motors, so I will only comment based on my experiences.
I believe the centrifugal switch sounds pretty normal when you turn it by hand. I keep meaning to make a post on the centrifugal switch, so maybe your post is the motivation.
Your motor sounds very good running and stopping. For comparison, check these videos I posted a while back on how I rejuvenate the bearing lubrication. My motor is the same model as yours.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6993604
The head frame casting in the picture below is from dp#50. I'll be using this one because I think it will be easier to clean than the one from dp#52.
Motor Centrifugal Switch
You will usually hear unusual and different sounds when turning a motor shaft by hand and when the motor spins down after switching it off. If you're new to working on motors, these sounds may seem problematic. However, these sounds are usually coming from the centrifugal switch and usually normal.
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DP#52 is a Craftsman 100, model 103.23131.
I believe this is a 1951 model.
- the head frame trim panel is attached with drive screws
1950 was the last year for machine screws- '52 and '53 models did not have the head frame trim panel
- the head frame and table lock handles are the chrome-plated cast style
I believe the '52-'53 models were equipped with the non-chromed ball-end lock handles- the date code on the motor is B2 50
WOW FrankLee! Another great post! Super informative and detailed as usual.
Thank you. I hope it's helpful.
This post sparked a couple questions for me regarding the various finishes of the different knobs/levers over the years.
- Were the feed handle knobs always chromed (other than the 52-53 war-era DP's?) Both sets of feed handles I have are chrome plated. I have both the early (3/8 thread) and late (1/2 thread)variants. Ive seen quite a few pics of these rods on here that appear to be un-plated.
Yes, I believe so.
Sometimes the chrome plating is so bad, that the plating will easily flake off with a wire wheel. The bare steel will then polish nicely:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7376453#post7376453
- Were the non-cast lock levers (head & table) ever chrome plated? All of mine were unpainted and NOT chrome plated. I wire-wheeled and polished mine.
Yes. I have a couple ball-end lock handles/bolts that are chromed. I'm not sure if King-Seeley, Atlas or both plated them.
I believe all taper-end handles were always blued or otherwise coated/treated.
As a summary, here is how my 1954/55 model "100" appears to have come finished:
- Came with both the headbadge & engine-turned trim (secured w/ "rivets")
- Had Chrome-plated feed-hub with 3/8" threaded chrome-plated feed handles.
- Came with un-plated steel "ball-end" lock levers for the head and table locks.
Another progress update:
I have been busy with work and other projects so progress has been slow. That said, I did manage to find some time this weekend to get some things done.
I ordered and received the spindle and quill bearings in the mail last week. I found some USA-made (NOS) SKF 6205 sealed bearings along with some Nachi 6202-5/8 bore shielded units on eBay. Total cost was only $30 including shipping, so I feel pretty good about that.
I also got around to cleaning up the column. I used the manual sanding method using some belt sander belts. I worked my up from 80grit, to 120grit to 240 grit. It cleaned up very well overall despite some pitting here and there especially where the column was fitted into the base.
Another progress update:
I have been busy with work and other projects so progress has been slow. That said, I did manage to find some time this weekend to get some things done.
I ordered and received the spindle and quill bearings in the mail last week. I found some USA-made (NOS) SKF 6205 sealed bearings along with some Nachi 6202-5/8 bore shielded units on eBay. Total cost was only $30 including shipping, so I feel pretty good about that.
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I also got around to cleaning up the column. I used the manual sanding method using some belt sander belts. I worked my up from 80grit, to 120grit to 240 grit. It cleaned up very well overall despite some pitting here and there especially where the column was fitted into the base.
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How did you heat the bearings?
I saw this sander at an estate sale yesterday. I plugged it in and no-go. The motor wanted to turn, but wouldn't budge. Tried turning by hand still no-go. I brought it home anyway for a very good price.
There's no model label on it, but it's close to a model 113.22560. I believe it's an early '80s machine as the fasteners are metric.
I pulled the sanding disk and the belt, plugged it in and the motor came to life. I've got much of it apart and started
I started with the motor. The switch was broken and bypassed so I could tell that the motor was opened before. I made a quick trip to HD for a new switch. After some cleaning and reassembly, this motor runs nicely.
I'm thinking that's the case. It's coming along nicely. The bearings on the sanding belt drive drum arbor were cleaned and repacked. Everything else is moving as expected. The only moving parts to clean yet are on the upper spring arm.Well since the motor came to life off the machine, let’s hope that the machine just needs a good thorough cleaning to free up all the rotating bits.